Lukey Ball

StNoodles · Post: # 486488Post **StNoodles** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 8:02pm

Just wondering whether he's had corrective surgery for the groin troubles... Anyone know what's going on?

Solar · Post: # 486489Post **Solar** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 8:09pm

had it done in sydney about a month or two ago??

saintbrat · Post: # 486490Post **saintbrat** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 8:10pm

In Lukes own words

Tuesday 02 October, 2007 - 17:01 by Luke

[quote]Anyway, after the Richmond game we had a pretty tame â€œmad Mondayâ€

StNoodles · Post: # 486500Post **StNoodles** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 8:30pm

okay, cheers

really hope he's back to his best next year, or on the way...

SaintBot · Post: # 486502Post **SaintBot** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 8:33pm

StNoodles wrote:really hope he's back to his best next year, or on the way...

agree...disagree

even if he isnt at his best Luke is in the top 10, or 15 at the least, players at the club

would be a disgrace if we just sent him "on the way"

ausfatcat · Post: # 486505Post **ausfatcat** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 8:34pm

SaintBot wrote:
StNoodles wrote:really hope he's back to his best next year, or on the way...
agree...disagree

even if he isnt at his best Luke is in the top 10, or 15 at the least, players at the club

would be a disgrace if we just sent him "on the way"

I think he meant on the way as in on the way to getting better.

SaintBot · Post: # 486508Post **SaintBot** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 8:37pm

ausfatcat wrote:
SaintBot wrote:
StNoodles wrote:really hope he's back to his best next year, or on the way...
agree...disagree

even if he isnt at his best Luke is in the top 10, or 15 at the least, players at the club

would be a disgrace if we just sent him "on the way"

I think he meant on the way as in on the way to getting better.

ok...then i fully agree.

remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters

Eastern · Post: # 486518Post **Eastern** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 8:53pm

SaintBot wrote:
remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters

Not just StKilda recruiters. Almost every every good judge of talent from around the country had Luke ahead of Judd !!

Oh When the Saints · Sun 04 Nov 2007 8:55pm

Ball's 100m time was about 0.3 seconds quicker than Judd's too (as 18-year olds)

Nick_DalSantos_Girll · Sun 04 Nov 2007 9:02pm

and his enter score was like..amazing

amazing

his looks are amazing too =]

Eastern · Post: # 486526Post **Eastern** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 9:04pm

Nick_DalSantos_Girll wrote:and his enter score was like..amazing

amazing

his looks are amazing too =]

Enter score was 97.something. Pretty smart boy !!

midas_touch · Sun 04 Nov 2007 9:22pm

Yeah he's definitely an all rounder. Hopefully this surgery has ended his groin troubles and he can go back to some of his pre OP form next year.

StNoodles · Post: # 486552Post **StNoodles** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 10:17pm

ausfatcat wrote:
SaintBot wrote:
StNoodles wrote:really hope he's back to his best next year, or on the way...
agree...disagree

even if he isnt at his best Luke is in the top 10, or 15 at the least, players at the club

would be a disgrace if we just sent him "on the way"

I think he meant on the way as in on the way to getting better.

absolutely

perish the thought of losing bally...

jill · Post: # 486558Post **jill** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 10:37pm

Luke was in year 11 when drafted! The only reason he wasn't No.1 draft pick is that he wanted to NOT play league footy so he could complete YEAR 12! GT respected that & Saints drafted knowing he'd virtually sit out a year.

St Igmata · Post: # 486560Post **St Igmata** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 10:44pm

Oh When the Saints wrote:Ball's 100m time was about 0.3 seconds quicker than Judd's too (as 18-year olds)

Unfortunately 100 meters is a useless stat for an AFL footballer.
Its all about what you do for the first few meters and the speed you're going when find the ball .

Judd excels where it counts.
Thats why he is the game;s best game breaker!

saintsRrising · Sun 04 Nov 2007 10:48pm

SaintBot wrote:

remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters

was he???

I thought it was just that we tried to outsmart WC by thinking we could get Ball and Judd....and that we "thought" that WC wanted Ball but not Judd???????

JB was quoted once as saying that when WC called Judds number out that they looked directly at JB and smiled....

stinger · Post: # 486570Post **stinger** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 10:56pm

well...they outsmarted themselves...now they don't have either of them.......funny....sampi was delisted this year and. polak is also now long gone from freo as well......

SaintBot · Post: # 486572Post **SaintBot** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 10:58pm

saintsRrising wrote:
SaintBot wrote:

remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters
was he???

I thought it was just that we tried to outsmart WC by thinking we could get Ball and Judd....and that we "thought" that WC wanted Ball but not Judd???????

JB was quoted once as saying that when WC called Judds bumber out that they looked directly at JB and smiled....

im pretty sure the top 5 predictions were like so:

1. Hodge (Haw)
2. Ball (StK)
3. Polak (WCE)
4. Sampi (Fre)
5. Judd (StK)

Everyone thought Hodge and Ball were a class above. Then that West Coast and Fremantle would take the most talented Western Australians. So that would leave us Judd.

Thats what I have always believed to have been the case. Anyone got facts?

St Igmata · Post: # 486577Post **St Igmata** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 11:04pm

The fact is Judd was always seen as the best with Hodge next and then Ball.
Judd had 2 shoulder reconstructions and was termed as a "risk" in a super draft where there was not much between the first three and the draft ran deep.

Armoooo · Post: # 486585Post **Armoooo** » Sun 04 Nov 2007 11:11pm

After all that I wouldn't be surprised if the 5 best players turned out being G.Ablett, Hodge, Dal Santo, Bartel, Montagna...

saintsRrising · Sun 04 Nov 2007 11:25pm

SaintBot wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
SaintBot wrote:

remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters
was he???

I thought it was just that we tried to outsmart WC by thinking we could get Ball and Judd....and that we "thought" that WC wanted Ball but not Judd???????

JB was quoted once as saying that when WC called Judds bumber out that they looked directly at JB and smiled....
im pretty sure the top 5 predictions were like so:

1. Hodge (Haw)
2. Ball (StK)
3. Polak (WCE)
4. Sampi (Fre)
5. Judd (StK)

Everyone thought Hodge and Ball were a class above. Then that West Coast and Fremantle would take the most talented Western Australians. So that would leave us Judd.

Thats what I have always believed to have been the case. Anyone got facts?

Well there is not one ranking....as everyone will rank players differently...

But my recollection is that Hodge, Ball and Judd were clearly in everyones top 3 based purely on ability. Some were worried about Judd's shoulders.....

Some thought WC may go for Polak as a local boy due to the go home factor etc....and so while not ranking him above the other 3 in terms of aabilty some though that WC would plumb for him.

Butters was strongly of the view that the Saints should have taken Judd with their first pick...but as President did not have a say.

But back to your earlier statement that the St Kilda recruiters ranked Ball higher than Judd. No, that is not my understanding.

saintsRrising · Sun 04 Nov 2007 11:30pm

Oh When the Saints wrote:Ball's 100m time was about 0.3 seconds quicker than Judd's too (as 18-year olds)

However how quick footballers run over 100m is not really that important in AFL unless they are truly outside players.....

BJ is reported to have had some good sprint times at training....but has never shown useful pace in an AFL match.

The pace that is important is the initial acceleration. Players that have this "burst" pace such as Judd have a clear advantage.

Bigger players with bust pace can for example make very good FFs.....

benengel14 · Sun 04 Nov 2007 11:38pm

He was at the Jam Factory today seeing a film, with the girl he took to the 2006 Brownlow. Said training begins on Monday for the club.

saintsRrising · Mon 05 Nov 2007 12:12am

StNoodles wrote:Just wondering whether he's had corrective surgery for the groin troubles... Anyone know what's going on?

Abuctor release operation.....so a bit more than minor.

Is a well understood operation these days and very common with soccer players where groin and related injuries are more common. It has a good success record.

My brother in law had it done and he played some of his best football of the round ball variety after he had it done.

St Igmata · Post: # 486617Post **St Igmata** » Mon 05 Nov 2007 12:22am

saintsRrising wrote:
SaintBot wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
SaintBot wrote:

remember at 18 years of age Ball was rated higher than Chris Judd by the StKilda recruiters
was he???

I thought it was just that we tried to outsmart WC by thinking we could get Ball and Judd....and that we "thought" that WC wanted Ball but not Judd???????

JB was quoted once as saying that when WC called Judds bumber out that they looked directly at JB and smiled....
im pretty sure the top 5 predictions were like so:

1. Hodge (Haw)
2. Ball (StK)
3. Polak (WCE)
4. Sampi (Fre)
5. Judd (StK)

Everyone thought Hodge and Ball were a class above. Then that West Coast and Fremantle would take the most talented Western Australians. So that would leave us Judd.

Thats what I have always believed to have been the case. Anyone got facts?

Well there is not one ranking....as everyone will rank players differently...

But my recollection is that Hodge, Ball and Judd were clearly in everyones top 3 based purely on ability. Some were worried about Judd's shoulders.....

Some thought WC may go for Polak as a local boy due to the go home factor etc....and so while not ranking him above the other 3 in terms of aabilty some though that WC would plumb for him.

Butters was strongly of the view that the Saints should have taken Judd with their first pick...but as President did not have a say.

But back to your earlier statement that the St Kilda recruiters ranked Ball higher than Judd. No, that is not my understanding.

Not many others.
The wider recruiting community certainly didnt.

Judds shoulders were seen as a risk.
GT liked Ball.
Not sure about Bev.

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