Brooks, watts, raymond , Sweene CONFIRMED as gone. OFFICIAL.

saintsRrising · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:13am

Archie F just announced on SEN.

Has been delisted.

fonz_#15 · Post: # 476950Post **fonz_#15** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:15am

fantastic

Enrico_Misso · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:16am

There goes another of the 16 first round picks on our 2007 list.

saintsRrising · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:19am

Archie has also now said that Watts, Sweeney and Raymond along with Watts would be the 4 delisted.

saintsRrising · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:20am

The Club will wait and see who is available in the PSD before making any decisions.

fonz_#15 · Post: # 476960Post **fonz_#15** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:21am

so mini is safe i'm assuming. He is contracted for 2008 which is why i thought he would be safe but next season is make or break for him. Improve and cement a spot or your out.

Enrico_Misso · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:23am

Shame about Watts.
Would have liked to see him actually do a pre-season and have an injury free year to prove himself.

The sentiment seems to be that he is too slow for "modern" football, but I think there is always room in the goalsquare for a big marking sharp shooter.

Anyway, another first round draft pick has just left the building.

chook23 · Post: # 476963Post **chook23** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:23am

Has rookie delisting been confirmed?

sorry if been covered.

Brooks and Watts have turned out to be poor selections.

saintsRrising · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:25am

fonz_#15 wrote:so mini is safe i'm assuming. He is contracted for 2008 which is why i thought he would be safe but next season is make or break for him. Improve and cement a spot or your out.

Yes Archie said it was those FOUR who would be going.

KB specifically asked Archie to name ALL those who were going to be delisted in addition to Brooks as Archie had mentioned Brooks at the start of the interview.

So looks like Mini passed the interview test with Ross...and Brooks and watts did not.

saintspremiers · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:25am

awesome news!

Put aside who has gone or why they have gone.

As I said on a previous post....it's TIMING......get rid of the dead wood now, so if there are any targets for the PSD we are on the table and ready to negoiate.

ie. if we want Brennan or Kepler Wessels, etc, other clubs know where we stand.

4 delisted + 5 retired - 4 additions during trade week = 5 spots up for grabs.

Archie said we'll take 4 in the National Draft, but wasn't sure if we'd participate in the PSD.

I assume there is a 50/50 chance we will be in the PSD???

saintsRrising · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:25am

chook23 wrote:Has rookie delisting been confirmed?

sorry if been covered.

No unfortunately KB did not ask about Rookies...though as I am at work I may have misseda comment on rookies...but I do not recall one.

yipper · Post: # 476967Post **yipper** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:26am

well that's now 15 players and 3 rookies moved on since RL was appointed. He is certainly turning the list over. McQualter will need to break through in 2008.

riccardo · Post: # 476968Post **riccardo** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:26am

Happy Mini is safe, concerned about Brooks being the same. A bit shocked on Phil R to be honest.

Still, shows the club is moving forward from some of GTs left-field project players.

EDIT: Read Brooks is gone.

fonz_#15 · Post: # 476969Post **fonz_#15** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:27am

saintsRrising wrote:
fonz_#15 wrote:so mini is safe i'm assuming. He is contracted for 2008 which is why i thought he would be safe but next season is make or break for him. Improve and cement a spot or your out.
Yes Archie said it was those FOUR who would be going.

KB specifically asked Archie to name ALL those who were going to be delisted in addition to Brooks as Archie had mentioned Brooks at the start of the interview.

So looks like Mini passed the interview test with Ross...and Brooks and watts did not.

i think you will find mini had a contract for 08 already and that is what saved him. I hope he can really push hard for a spot in our best 22 next season.

saintsRrising · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:28am

saintspremiers wrote:awesome news!

I assume there is a 50/50 chance we will be in the PSD???

Yes he said that the coaches etc were all taking a bit of a break now..and that they would look at the PSD when they got back. So there is no decision yet on whether they will or won't...

chook23 · Post: # 476973Post **chook23** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:30am

saintsRrising wrote:
chook23 wrote:Has rookie delisting been confirmed?

sorry if been covered.

No unfortunately KB did not ask about Rookies...though as I am at work I may have misseda comment on rookies...but I do not recall one.

No probs

also rookie elevations CONFIRMED.

saintsRrising · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:34am

Do you know who the elevated Rookies are Chook....I am sure Archie would have told KB if he was asked....
So if you have inside knowledge I would say that it ican be "public" now....

saintly · Post: # 476980Post **saintly** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:35am

not Mcqualter. Still 1 year on his contract to go. didn't pay him out.

saintsrus · Post: # 476985Post **saintsrus** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:38am

Enrico_Misso wrote:Shame about Watts.
Would have liked to see him actually do a pre-season and have an injury free year to prove himself.

The sentiment seems to be that he is too slow for "modern" football, but I think there is always room in the goalsquare for a big marking sharp shooter.

Anyway, another first round draft pick has just left the building.

Agree there, what a waste of a pick

Eastern · Post: # 476993Post **Eastern** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:46am

saintsRrising wrote:

No unfortunately KB did not ask about Rookies...though as I am at work I may have misseda comment on rookies...but I do not recall one.

Why don't you ask Archie? You can be emailing him at archief@saints.com.au

If you ask in a civilized manner, I'm sure he will respond !!

saintsRrising · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:48am

Enrico_Misso wrote:Shame about Watts.
Would have liked to see him actually do a pre-season and have an injury free year to prove himself.

The sentiment seems to be that he is too slow for "modern" football, but I think there is always room in the goalsquare for a big marking sharp shooter.
.

I think that you can...but there is only room for one such type in your forward line...and Kosi will have that role.

Kosi >>>>> Watts

Playing BOTH Watts and Kosi would make fora very cumbersome forward line.

joffaboy · Post: # 477000Post **joffaboy** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:54am

A shame for the players. Their dream is gone of an AFL career.

Young men who would all be feeling pretty down ATM. I feel for them personally.

However for the STKFC it is something that happens every year and it is a tough business.

Glad for McQualter (and Ferg, and a couple of others). Make of break for the two mentioned I would assume.

All or nothing from Ferg and Mini in 2008.

B W and R all over · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:57am

Not sure about the rules on rookie listing players (age, etc), but do you reckon there'd be any chance we would try to rookie list one of these blokes?

I suppose we'll have to wait and see who if any of them continue to train at the club.

GrumpyOne · Post: # 477005Post **GrumpyOne** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:59am

saintsRrising wrote:Archie has also now said that Watts, Sweeney and Raymond along with Watts would be the 4 delisted.

Pretty tough when you're delisted twice.

loving_the_dal · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:59am

Enrico_Misso wrote:Shame about Watts.
Would have liked to see him actually do a pre-season and have an injury free year to prove himself.

The sentiment seems to be that he is too slow for "modern" football, but I think there is always room in the goalsquare for a big marking sharp shooter.

Anyway, another first round draft pick has just left the building.

yeah i agree with you.. would have liked to see him prove himself.. is a lovely bloke as well..