One can only hope that the new management will sign Bakes up without much more fuss. Never ever forget why you hate Carlton !!
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/blues ... 78837.html
CARLTON'S return to its predatory best has not been confined to its pursuit of Chris Judd, with the Blues also having shown interest in uncontracted St Kilda tagger Steven Baker, while they have made an unsuccessful attempt to poach Collingwood development coach Alan Richardson.
While securing a deal for Judd remains the club's critical priority, Carlton's desire to accelerate its passage up the ladder has resulted in it also targeting other uncontracted players, with Baker still unable to come to terms with the Saints, after Carlton also made a bid for another Saint, Matt Maguire, who spurned that and other offers to remain at St Kilda.
The Blues have second pick in the pre-season draft and hope that, in the event they secure Judd in a trade, they will have room for at least one more acquisition. Like Richmond, they have significant room in the salary cap.
The re-discovery of Carlton's trademark aggression under the leadership of president Richard Pratt and chief executive Greg Swann also has resulted in it ruffling Magpie feathers in its pursuit of Richardson, who was contracted to Collingwood for 2008 and will stay with the club for which he played.
Richardson heads the Collingwood development program — established when Swann was its chief executive — which is thought to have established new benchmarks for fast-tracking young talent, as evident in the astounding debut seasons of Irish recruit Martin Clarke and defender Tyson Goldsack.
Negotiations between Carlton and West Coast stalled yesterday in their first meeting since Judd nominated the Blues as his preferred club, with the Blues sticking to their position that the first draft pick was not on the table, while the Eagles want picks one and three and call Carlton's refusal to give up the first pick for Judd "insulting".
West Coast recruiting manager Trevor Woodhouse and Carlton football operations manager Steven Icke met yesterday, but neither party budged from their positions. The Blues did not offer the Eagles West Australian forward Josh Kennedy in their discussions yesterday, though an offer of pick three and Kennedy was believed to be the club's initial proposal.
Judd will attend West Coast's club championship tonight in his first return to the club since he announced his decision to leave and seek a trade to a Victorian club.
West Coast chief executive Trevor Nisbett said his club would be interested in taking its discussions with Richmond further if its negotiations with Carlton did not bring about a deal.
Nisbett said Richmond director of football Greg Miller had "told us they're very interested if things don't work out with Carlton … Greg's got first pick in the pre-season, he knows exactly where he stands, he's been doing this for a very long time, so he knows what to do."
Baker - Blue's Sniffing Around (The Age)
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Bakes is the lifeblood of the club. We have to do what we can to keep him.
From what I understand he is one of the more popular blokes at the club.
That said, I'm pretty sure he's good mates with Fevola. Not sure what sort of weight that holds.
When all's said and done, I suppose $$$ have a fair bit to do with it.
Hope Judd can sting them for as much as possible so they don't have much left.
From what I understand he is one of the more popular blokes at the club.
That said, I'm pretty sure he's good mates with Fevola. Not sure what sort of weight that holds.
When all's said and done, I suppose $$$ have a fair bit to do with it.
Hope Judd can sting them for as much as possible so they don't have much left.
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i am damn sure in the years to come we can return the favour ...offer bucketloads to all their young stars and at least force the price up....that is what the seas have been doing to us for years now...... 
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Yes it sounds like the Blues are very interested.. Heard Waldron quizzing a Carton recruiting guy on SEN.....and based on what was not said!!!!! by the guy respnding to Waldron's repeated questions asked in various ways it is pretty clear that the Blues are after Baker.
Just as well for us that the Blues do not have first pick in the PSD.
Just as well for us that the Blues do not have first pick in the PSD.
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Loosing Bakes with Hamill would be wacko the diddleo
Bakes has spilt too much blood - his own for the Saints and for us not to appreciate him. Not surprised Carkon are trying to elbow their way past their fellow (?) vic. teams with dirty money the dirty rotten..... anyway they don't deserve Bakes and as we know he is just about indespensible. Ball; Dal Santo; Goddard and Montagna can keep concentrating on ever improving with our little general taking the responsibility for the TEAM as he often does. I expect Bakes to just keep getting better as the years progress.
I reckon the Saints should keep the 9th. pick and keep an eye out for a player who may want to switch clubs from say carlton for instance to play finals at Saint Kilda. With Ball; Goddard and Rossi all possibly better in 2008 a top 4 finish is a realistic expectation again.
Keep truckin Sainters.
I reckon the Saints should keep the 9th. pick and keep an eye out for a player who may want to switch clubs from say carlton for instance to play finals at Saint Kilda. With Ball; Goddard and Rossi all possibly better in 2008 a top 4 finish is a realistic expectation again.
Keep truckin Sainters.
The boy can play and we can build a defence around him that will have respect.
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Does anybody have a list of who at Carlton will be coming out of contract at teh end of next season?
Maybe we could get pro-active with their managers and give the Scum some payback angst by floating offers to their young stars that will mean they will struggle to keep them all (given the large % of their salary cap they will have to devote to judd)?
Maybe there should be a collective effort by a number of Clubs to give the Scum some of their own treatment back.
It is one thing to contact uncontracted players with the view of recruiting them, it is entirely another to cause mischief during those players negotiations with their existing clubs.
Maybe we could get pro-active with their managers and give the Scum some payback angst by floating offers to their young stars that will mean they will struggle to keep them all (given the large % of their salary cap they will have to devote to judd)?
Maybe there should be a collective effort by a number of Clubs to give the Scum some of their own treatment back.
It is one thing to contact uncontracted players with the view of recruiting them, it is entirely another to cause mischief during those players negotiations with their existing clubs.
which is what the pricks have done to us now for about four years....payback will be sweet justice.....Mr Magic wrote:Does anybody have a list of who at Carlton will be coming out of contract at teh end of next season?
Maybe we could get pro-active with their managers and give the Scum some payback angst by floating offers to their young stars that will mean they will struggle to keep them all (given the large % of their salary cap they will have to devote to judd)?
Maybe there should be a collective effort by a number of Clubs to give the Scum some of their own treatment back.
It is one thing to contact uncontracted players with the view of recruiting them, it is entirely another to cause mischief during those players negotiations with their existing clubs.
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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