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Have seen a fair bit of Woods over the last couple of years. He has muscled up considerably, as you would expect, and he is also fairly mobile for a 6'10" ?. Would definitely be worth a second round draft pick, not a first though. Think Lions got him in the top twenty.
Several years ago when he was drafted by Brisbane he was touted as a possible top 5 draft selection however slipped to there pick. We took McQUALTER a couple of picks earlier. For some reason the SAINTS have never drafted young ruckmen? Now we either give up our Sel 9 or 2nd Round selection with another player to get a ruckman we could have on our list for several years.
Why dont the SAINTS/Beveridge rate young ruckman at draft time. You only have to look at the draft value several years later to see their value. The benefits in having extra ruckmen on your list always seems to pay dividends to the clubs who take them eg Port = Brooks, Adelaide = Hudson/Meeson, Brisbane = Woods, Melbourne = Jolly, Fremantle = Symonds....
SAINTS another day older another day closer to the Holy Grail!
killa_gram wrote:Don't know why we need him while we still have the superstar Barry Brooks.
Exactly, Thomas and his boy wonder bundy gave up pick 6 and 31, because obviously pick 6 in the national draft is not enough for this superstar ruckman, so why do we need anyone else
killa_gram wrote:Don't know why we need him while we still have the superstar Barry Brooks.
Exactly, Thomas and his boy wonder bundy gave up pick 6 and 31, because obviously pick 6 in the national draft is not enough for this superstar ruckman, so why do we need anyone else
killa_gram wrote:Don't know why we need him while we still have the superstar Barry Brooks.
Exactly, Thomas and his boy wonder bundy gave up pick 6 and 31, because obviously pick 6 in the national draft is not enough for this superstar ruckman, so why do we need anyone else
answer this question....when will you move on???
all recruiting departments make mistakes...why fo you have to be so negtative at ours
Stephen Theodore wrote:Have seen a fair bit of Woods over the last couple of years. He has muscled up considerably, as you would expect, and he is also fairly mobile for a 6'10" ?
He evidently is 204cm...which is 6'8'' anda bit.
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
Will be his 4th year of development in 2008, so you would expect he is ready to play 22 matches. Still light-on in terms of muscle.
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Yes he should get better and better....but in 2008 will still be very much a developing player.....2009 you should start to see the best of him.....with his best in his late twenties if he follows the pattern of most ruckmen.
Would be a good option, or at least one worth considering....as you are not likely to get a ruckman at his peak...Jolly would be about the only option apart from Hudson who is "taken".
But even Jolly has his flaws as he is not very mobile, though this is ok with the Swans high stoppage play with lots of ruck contests.
The Saints however in 2008 will not seek I think to have the number of stoppages that the Swans have.
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Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
Will be his 4th year of development in 2008, so you would expect he is ready to play 22 matches. Still light-on in terms of muscle.
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Yes he should get better and better....but in 2008 will still be very much a developing player.....2009 you should start to see the best of him.....with his best in his late twenties if he follows the pattern of most ruckmen.
So if we could get him we would have a ruckmen development program?
Gardiner/Rix/Brooks to carry the load 2008-2009
Gardiner/Rix/Brooks/Woods to carry the load 2009-2010
Woods/Van Rheenan/Brooks to carry the load 2010-2012
With Kosi to be used as sparingly as possible as a ruckman?
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killa_gram wrote:Don't know why we need him while we still have the superstar Barry Brooks.
Exactly, Thomas and his boy wonder bundy gave up pick 6 and 31, because obviously pick 6 in the national draft is not enough for this superstar ruckman, so why do we need anyone else
Sadder and sadder
Agreed, B4E we are all aware of the disaster that was the Brooks trade so can you please let it it go now!
Alternatively provide a link to a post YOU made 5 years ago predicting that he would be a dud as opposed to the views of every recruiter in the country (including bevo and his port adelaide counterpart) that rated him good enough to be a first round pick in the 2001 super draft .
At the end of the day every club has had their own Barry Brooks, but yet I don't see the North Fans continually banging on about Jonathan Hay as much as this.
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WinnersOnly wrote:Several years ago when he was drafted by Brisbane he was touted as a possible top 5 draft selection however slipped to there pick. We took McQUALTER a couple of picks earlier. For some reason the SAINTS have never drafted young ruckmen? Now we either give up our Sel 9 or 2nd Round selection with another player to get a ruckman we could have on our list for several years.
2004 National Draft:
pick 17 Andrew McQualter St Kilda
pick 18 Cameron Wood Brisbane
Brisbane may let him go as they picked up Leuenberger last year. One might imagine that he is worth around the same again i.e. midway between our pick 9 and 26.
I strongly suspect that we will be aiming to pick up a ruckman with our pick 26 but would be unwilling to part with pick 9 unless for a deal that is majorly in our favour.
RE the drafting of McQ over Wood - well, we have also been accused of not having enough midfield depth. Just a bit of a shame that mini hasn't turned out quite how we hoped. Meh, there's still time for the young fella.
Hird... The unflushable one is now... just a turd...
killa_gram wrote:Don't know why we need him while we still have the superstar Barry Brooks.
Exactly, Thomas and his boy wonder bundy gave up pick 6 and 31, because obviously pick 6 in the national draft is not enough for this superstar ruckman, so why do we need anyone else
Sadder and sadder
Agreed, B4E we are all aware of the disaster that was the Brooks trade so can you please let it it go now!
Alternatively provide a link to a post YOU made 5 years ago predicting that he would be a dud as opposed to the views of every recruiter in the country (including bevo and his port adelaide counterpart) that rated him good enough to be a first round pick in the 2001 super draft .
At the end of the day every club has had their own Barry Brooks, but yet I don't see the North Fans continually banging on about Jonathan Hay as much as this.
You miss the point Apu, its not about Brooks, its about bashing and sledging GT at every available opportunity. No matter how tenuous the link, Barks will be there, knifing away at the exclusion of any other topic concerning our Club. Its got to the stage where he only posts now in threads where he can kick his favorite topic in the head..which is a shame IMHO
Apu wrote:Agreed, B4E we are all aware of the disaster that was the Brooks trade so can you please let it it go now!
Alternatively provide a link to a post YOU made 5 years ago predicting that he would be a dud as opposed to the views of every recruiter in the country (including bevo and his port adelaide counterpart) that rated him good enough to be a first round pick in the 2001 super draft .
Just to clarify
Beveridge did not make the call to draft Brooks, it was not his decision
Rendell and Thomas made the call on Brooks and Rendell and Thomas made the call to give not only pick 6 but pick 31 also to clinch the deal
pick 17 Andrew McQualter St Kilda
pick 18 Cameron Wood Brisbane
Pick 58 Brad Moran Kangaroos
I'd much rather have Moran at this stage than Wood. Wood has played a fair few games at AFL level and has never really looked anything special. Moran hasn't had a lot of opportunities, but has the potential to be something special.
If Brisbane can get a pick in the 20-30 range for Wood, they should take it and run.
Wood has proven nothing yet. Never had more than 16 hitouts in a game and has never done much around the ground. He would be worth a pick in the mid-late 20's, but you wouldn't trade for him and expect for our ruck woes to disappear. In the next couple of years he will just be an average backup ruckman. Once he is 24-25 he might be able to lift the workload and then we'd see how good he really is, but he has done nothing to warrant a higher trade value than any other young ruckman.