3AW Report...Sherman wants out of Brisbane!

[Joffa Burns]

Now I am a big believer in not trading draft picks but I believe the The Shermanator is exactly the type of player we should be targeting.

- Young
- Aggressive
- Quick
- Can kick a goal
- Can take a mark
- Great body for AFL footy

Has very poor defensive skills and needs a better work ethic but is young enough and good enough to over come these issues.

I could see him playing half forward and kicking a couple of goals and rotating through the midfield.

What would we give up for Sherman?

A draft pick? A player?

Does anyone else rate him and see him as a great fit for us?

[SENsei]

Spot on JB. The Sherminator is a gun. I'd be very pleased to see him in the red white & black.

[footynut]

If he wants out you'd offer a third round pick, or hope to get him in the pre season draft (that would be a nice get)

[saint66au]

Agreed..good player if a touch inconsistant ..and fits our "wants" list..

Is he a Vic boy wanting to come home?

have to be careful trafing picks though I reckon..our junior stocks arent in that good shape that we can afford to trade away 1st and 2nd Rounders

Maybe 2nd Rounder for him and their 3rd rounder if Pick 9 stays with us after the Judd merry-go-round.

No way would he still in the running by our pick in the PSD unless we cut a deal.

[PLUGGER14]

Was interesting to see his parents attend the game up here in Brisbane last year wearing the "Red, White & Black ".

Yep St Kilda supporters

[Joffa Burns]

Don't hold me too it but I thought he was a Vic country boy - Wodonga region?

[meher baba]

He's probably a better use of pick 9 than Fev, but geez.......

Some of you proponents of Sherman are also carping critics of GT for wanting to "top up" or to "trade away draft picks for recycled players".

Do you know the meaning of the word "inconsistent?

And don't tell me that we could trade some dud for Sherman. I cannot imagine the Lions letting us have him for anything less than pick 9 (and possibly something else as well).

[wildgoose]

Id be very happy to pick him up, but not giving away pick number 9. He is quick, kicks goals from the midfield, something we lack.

[Oh When the Saints]

May inconsistency and hypocrisy reign meher baba!!

I would give up our second rounder for Sherman. Lyon would sort him out and he is a terrific player - played some fantastic games in '06.

[Dan Warna]

brilliant year in 06, done nothing in 07.

not worth our round 1 pick on current form.

perhaps he was a one hit wonder? plenty of players done that.

IMO we can do better with pick 9.

i dont mind giving away a round 2 pick for a kid with potential and proven big game form, although he hasn't shown in in 18 months.

young enough i think.

[Oh When the Saints]

This year was only his 3rd season DW, and he's 21, so plenty of time to come good.

Showed enough on a consistent basis last year to suggest he is capable at this level.

[st.mart]

Sherman is from the Clarence Football Culb in Tasmania......definitely worth a look.....second rounder - or third rounder and a dud..

[Dan Warna]

This year was only his 3rd season DW, and he's 21, so plenty of time to come good.

Showed enough on a consistent basis last year to suggest he is capable at this level.

absolutely

but one year in sun doesn't make a career.

IMO i think he is a risk, worth a second round pick IMO and/or a GOP but not pick 9 or one of our starting 22.

[meher baba]

I would give up our second rounder for Sherman.

Yes, so would I in a flickering of an eye. But is this at all likely to be good enough for the Lions?

[bigred]

ugh...

Stop mentioning pick 9

[Dan Warna]

I would give up our second rounder for Sherman.

Yes, so would I in a flickering of an eye. But is this at all likely to be good enough for the Lions?

if thats the best offer they get for him.

[saintsRrising]

He's probably a better use of pick 9 than Fev, but geez.......

Some of you proponents of Sherman are also carping critics of GT for wanting to "top up" or to "trade away draft picks for recycled players".

Do you know the meaning of the word "inconsistent?

My view is that you do not trade for players that other clubs have rejected as not being good enough for AFL (ie McGough, Ackland etc. Powell would seem to be the exception...but with Powell I think there were other factors besides talent)


Players that choose to leave a club for genuine reasons are ok...and particularly if it is the type of player that we lack.(ie Gram, Gehrig etc)

My personal preference is to err on using your draft picks rather than trading....but you do need to balance building a team and your known weaknesses with what you can take in the draft.

Trading a good draft pick (ie your first 3 rounds) fora rejected player of GOP at best abilities is madness. If you havea FLAWEd player that you think you can reform then either the rookie draft needs to be used....ora LATE draft pick which is a cheap pick.

And don't tell me that we could trade some dud for Sherman. I cannot imagine the Lions letting us have him for anything less than pick 9 (and possibly something else as well).

Not worth a pick 9.

Second round...or third....

[meher baba]

Players that choose to leave a club for genuine reasons are ok...and particularly if it is the type of player that we lack.(ie Gram, Gehrig etc)

My personal preference is to err on using your draft picks rather than trading....but you do need to balance buildinga team and your known weaknesses with what you can take in the draft.

Dratfting a good draft pick (ie your first 3 rounds is madness). If you havea FLAWEd player that you think you can reform then either the rookie draft needs to be used....ora LATE draft pick which is a cheap pick.

I would agree with you except that I would think that I would really only describe the first round draft pick as a "good" one. If you look at the drafts since 2000, the numbers of draftees who have continued to be offered AFL contracts after the first 2 seasons drops away pretty dramatically after the top 20 or so.

A lot of posters on here get very excited about the possibility that the club has traded away a pick in the 20s, 30s and 40s with which it might (repeat MIGHT) have snared a top quality player. We, and other clubs, have certainly done well with such picks on a number of occasions, but - once you take the the father-son picks out of the picture - statistics do not support the idea that this is something that you should rely upon being able to do every time.

That's why I have lost patience with the endless whinging on this forum about our having traded away relatively poor draft picks for Guerra, McGough, Ackland, etc.

Watts is another matter: I know some on here scoff at the role that nepotism might have played, but it did seem to be a strange decision at the time. However, he is undoubtedly a promising player and may well prove us all wrong in 2008.

[evertonfc]

Moist. He looked awesome in 2006 and I'm sure we could get him right.

Definitely worth giving up a second rounder for.

[BAM! (shhhh)]

I would give up our second rounder for Sherman.

Yes, so would I in a flickering of an eye. But is this at all likely to be good enough for the Lions?

Sherman will be an interesting one - I bet news that he wants back to Melbourne will be viewed with interest by ALL the Melbourne clubs - because all the Melbourne clubs will be hoping to get his '06 showing for his '07 price.

I'd join the chorus of those who wouldn't give up pick #9, but I suspect we'd need to sweeten the 2nd rounder to make the best off to the Lions. I'd open with the 3rd rounder, and when pushed for more see if the 2nd would get it done, and failing that, offer the 2nd plus one of our cast of not-quite-there-yets... bidding goes any higher, I let someone else have Sherman. I want him cheap, I'm willing to pay more than his '07 by itself would warrant, because I think he'd slot straight into our lineup - but I'm wary of the possibility he was a flash in the pan. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see somebody (I like the kangas for the irony factor if they fully relocate) give up a 1st round pick for him.

[Joffa Burns]

He's probably a better use of pick 9 than Fev, but geez.......

Some of you proponents of Sherman are also carping critics of GT for wanting to "top up" or to "trade away draft picks for recycled players".

Do you know the meaning of the word "inconsistent?

And don't tell me that we could trade some dud for Sherman. I cannot imagine the Lions letting us have him for anything less than pick 9 (and possibly something else as well).

Only one person touting pick nine mb

Personally I'd entertain discussion on any pick other than our first round.
He'd be well gone before we could get him in thre PSD.

Brisbane would be asking for Qld boy Sammy Gilbert if it was a trade but I'm sure we wouldn't be letting him go for Sherman.

[Dan Warna]

He's probably a better use of pick 9 than Fev, but geez.......

Some of you proponents of Sherman are also carping critics of GT for wanting to "top up" or to "trade away draft picks for recycled players".

Do you know the meaning of the word "inconsistent?

And don't tell me that we could trade some dud for Sherman. I cannot imagine the Lions letting us have him for anything less than pick 9 (and possibly something else as well).

Only one person touting pick nine mb

Personally I'd entertain discussion on any pick other than our first round.
He'd be well gone before we could get him in thre PSD.

Brisbane would be asking for Qld boy Sammy Gilbert if it was a trade but I'm sure we wouldn't be letting him go for Sherman.

yeppers sam gilbert on first year form looks outstanding.

i guess if he has a shocker in 08 folks will be demanding we try and get a round 3 pick for him before his value dissipates altogether

sherman for a round 2 pick or a player outside our best 25 with a round 3 pick looks like what sherman is worth now.

12 months ago he would have been a late round 1 pick easy.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

hrmmm i dunno
if we play in the judd merygo round with pick 9 i would be reluctant to trade our second pick as well meaning our first pick will be a third rounder with a draft as shallow as this one i dunno i just got a bad feeling about it

[rodgerfox]

Would we expect what we get with pick 9 to be as good as Sherman is?

If not, then go for him.

If so, then why trade for him?

[Batnoe]

I was talking to someone that Knows Sherman!!

he says he is a bit arrogant and thinks he is the best, but it might be cause Sherman isnt that bright

Good player, but only seems to play well against Saints