Brownlow Medal (Im telling ya)

[Aussie Bears]

Nathan Foley 23
Daniel Kerr 23
Nick Riewoldt 21
Chad Cornes 21
Joel Corey 21
Nick Malcheski 21
Brent Harvey 20
Gary Ablett 20
Tyson Edwards 19
Peter Bell 18
Hamish McIntosh1 18
James Bartel 17
Kane Cornes 17
Sam Mitchell 17

[SaintBot]

source ? interesting, different list

[hammers]

Do you really think Foley can get that many in the wooden spoon team?
Kerr is inegiliable isn't he?

[HSVKing]

Do you really think Foley can get that many in the wooden spoon team?
Kerr is inegiliable isn't he?

If you stand out in a low placed team... you have all sorts of chances of winning.

[saintbrat]

so we could have the first winner NOT in attendance
if Lenny or Luke win the toss to attend?

ST KILDA: Dal Santo, Fisher, Gram, Montagna together with one of the co-captains and of course Rob Harvey

[Unforgiven]

Do you really think Foley can get that many in the wooden spoon team?
Kerr is inegiliable isn't he?

If you stand out in a low placed team... you have all sorts of chances of winning.

Be interesting to see where the last 10 or so BL medal winners teams placed that year. I don't think a player from a Spoon team would have a chance. In all of richmonds losses you'd harldy think Foley would ever poll a 3, lucky for a 2, a possible 1.

[SaintBot]

so we could have the first winner NOT in attendance
if Lenny or Luke win the toss to attend?

ST KILDA: Dal Santo, Fisher, Gram, Montagna together with one of the co-captains and of course Rob Harvey

riewoldts going...its on afl.com.au somewhere

[HSVKing]

1987 Tony Lockett St K 10th
1987 John Platten Haw 2nd
1988 Gerard Healy Syd 7th
1989 Paul Couch Geel 2nd
1990 Tony Liberatore Foots 7th
1991 Jim Stynes Melb 4th
1992 Scott Wynd Foots 3rd
1993 Gavin Wanganeen Ess 1st
1994 Greg Williams Carl 5th
1995 Paul Kelly Syd 12th
1996 James Hird Ess 4th
1996 Michael Voss Bris 3rd
1997 Robert Harvey St K 2nd
1998 Robert Harvey St K 6th
1999 Shane Crawford Haw 9th
2000 Shane Woewodin Melb 2nd
2001 Jason Akermanis B.L 1st
2002 Simon Black B.L 1st
2003 Nathan Buckley Coll 2nd
2003 Mark Ricciuto Ade 5th
2003 Adam Goodes Syd 3rd
2004 Chris Judd WC 8th
2005 Ben Cousins WC 2nd
2006 Adam Goodes Syd 2nd

Only 3 players from the Premiership side
5 players who's sides have missed finals

[Unforgiven]

Yeah the stats then show in the last 10 year's it been a rare occurance for a player to win it and not make finals.

Foley was good in patches though. I can't say I payed him too much attention at the start of season so don't know how he went. Was good in the middle and didnt do to much at the end(tagged).

[HSVKing]

Yeah the stats then show in the last 10 year's it been a rare occurance for a player to win it and not make finals.

Foley was good in patches though. I can't say I payed him too much attention at the start of season so don't know how he went. Was good in the middle and didnt do to much at the end(tagged).

Went to almost every Richmond match in Melbourne in the first half of the season.

He played very good football this season, was a shame he missed the AA side. He will poll well in the Brownlow, best for Richmond no doubt.

[saintbrat]

http://saints.com.au/Season2007/News/Ne ... wsId=51590
Who’s invited: Nick Riewoldt, Robert Harvey, Nick Dal Santo, Sam Fisher, Jason Gram, Leigh Montagna

2007 All-Australians: None

Betting: Nick Riewoldt 81, Nick Dal Santo 251, Leigh Montagna 501

Ineligible: Steven Baker, Fraser Gehrig, Justin Koschitzke

Leading vote-getter in 2006: Robert Harvey (12)

Past winners: Colin Watson (1952), Brian Gleeson (1957), Neil Roberts (1958), Verdun Howell (1959 tied), Ian Stewart (1965 tied, 1966), Ross Smith (1967), Tony Lockett (1987 tied), Robert Harvey (1997, 98)
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so is Nick invited as possible or as Captain?

[crowjelly]

He did not even win his club's BnF - beaten by Richo!

Only polled 8 votes on the ABC award - Ablett won it with 28

AB you might need some time out for a visit to the "room of mirrors", but put your money where your mouth is - you'll get great odds.

[The_Dud]

He did not even win his club's BnF - beaten by Richo!

Only polled 8 votes on the ABC award - Ablett won it with 28

AB you might need some time out for a visit to the "room of mirrors", but put your money where your mouth is - you'll get great odds.

yes but u have to remember, the media LOVES ablett and would give him votes that he probably didn't deserve

if Foley's last name was Ablett he'd probably be in the same boat - being talked up much more than hes actually worth

lets hope the umpires didn't get dragged into the ablett-mania

[crowjelly]

I think you need to be an extra special player to pull the 3 votes in the losing side. Cats finished top - Tiges bottom.
Don't discount Roo or Killa - great work rates, blond hair = votes.

[n1ck]

Malceski with 20 odd?

Seriously?

[HSVKing]

Malceski with 20 odd?

Seriously?

Another lesser name who had a great season.

[Nick_Dal_Santo = ChAmPiOn]

surely he cant win the brownlow if he didnt even win his clubs B&F?

[Otiman]

surely he cant win the brownlow if he didnt even win his clubs B&F?

Interesting, I wonder how many times that has happened in the past.

[Unforgiven]

Anyone know where I can find site on players history of polling brownlow votes?

[Oh When the Saints]

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/stats_idx.html

Find your individual player's page (e.g. http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/play ... woldt.html) and the far right hand column will have their career Brownlow history.

[Unforgiven]

Sweet, thanks a lot, appreciate it.

[Joffa Burns]

Reasons Foley could win!

- Has great pace which stands out
- Has done some of his best work at centre clearances where he has broken away and kicked the odd goal
- Has been either very good or very average in games (ie. votes or no vaotes)
- Is the time of stand out player that does things that gets noticed by umpires

Reasons he wont win!

- You rarely see a losing team get the 3 votes so he is likely to get 2's or 1's as opposed to 3's.

I'd say there are plenty of Brownlow winners who have not one their club B&F. B&F voting is different for example a Full back may keep a gun forward goaless or a tagger may stop a Judd and will get maximum votes in the B&F but will be unlikely to poll in the Brownlow.

[fonz_#15]

surely he cant win the brownlow if he didnt even win his clubs B&F?

Interesting, I wonder how many times that has happened in the past.

i'm pretty sure doc baldock won a b&f in one of the years where Ian Stewart won the brownlow.

[super dooper]

Well i think:

30 - B.Harvey
27 - Chad Cornes
26 - Gablett
24 - Bartel
19 - Pavlich
19 - Goodes
16 - Mcloed
JB
Mitchell
Riewoldt
K.Cornes

should be interesting tonight

[ben_fff]

surely he cant win the brownlow if he didnt even win his clubs B&F?

Interesting, I wonder how many times that has happened in the past.

I'm pretty sure Akermanis finished 5th in his B&F when he won the brownlow.