Judd- are we any chance?

fugazi · Post: # 457882Post **fugazi** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:42pm

listening to his press conference...very impressive bloke...wants to go to a Vic club that will be successful.

With Fraser leaving, with a possible retirement of Hamill....could we make room in the TPP to accommodate him?

If he was to nominate the Saints as his club of choice, who would we trade? Might take a combo of pick 9 and Sam Fisher ( although I'd be gutted to make that trade).

Can't imagine either of the Clark brothers having much currency even if combined with the first DP....perhaps pick 9 and Sam Gilbert?

Thoughts? Are we even in the race?

Saints Premiers 2008 · Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:44pm

no

even if hamill retires his contract still goes towards tpp

so no chance in hell

Saints94 · Post: # 457885Post **Saints94** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:45pm

1. There are heaps of topics of Judd on this forum already

2. Gilbert's a star if we trade him i will be pissed of

3. We have a chance of snaring him but i dont really see us getting him with Carlton in the way

4. Hamill wont retire he has another 1-2 years left in him

chook23 · Post: # 457886Post **chook23** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:46pm

homework wrote:1. There are heaps of topics of Judd on this forum already

2. Gilbert's a star if we trade him i will be pissed of

3. We have a chance of snaring him but i dont really see us getting him with Carlton in the way

Gilbert is a long way off being a star

had a good year just needs to keep improving and consolidate next year

Saints94 · Post: # 457887Post **Saints94** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:47pm

chook23 wrote:
homework wrote:1. There are heaps of topics of Judd on this forum already

2. Gilbert's a star if we trade him i will be pissed of

3. We have a chance of snaring him but i dont really see us getting him with Carlton in the way
Gilbert is a long way off being a star

had a good year just needs to keep improving and consolidate next year

Gilbert is a star thats my opinion

satchmo · Post: # 457888Post **satchmo** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:47pm

Make a play for him and pump up his price, I want the club that get's him to sell their souls !

saintlee · Post: # 457893Post **saintlee** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:52pm

No chance what so ever....we won't give up enough to meet what WCE would want

Post: # 457896Post **n1ck** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:56pm

Do we have any WA'ns on our list that potentially want to go home?

Saints94 · Post: # 457897Post **Saints94** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:57pm

I want clinton Jones to go home

congorozides · Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:58pm

See. Now you see why have been so pi$$ed off about Hammil on this forum for he past 12 months.
If Hammil was on a 3 year contract like he should have been we could be going for hell for leather after Judd.

saintm · Post: # 457899Post **saintm** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:58pm

saintlee wrote:No chance what so ever....we won't give up enough to meet what WCE would want

If they play too hard ball, however, don't they run the risk of him ending up in the PSD (see Port Adelaide and Nick Stevens) and they end up with nothing for him.

goodie · Post: # 457902Post **goodie** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 1:59pm

satchmo wrote:Make a play for him and pump up his price, I want the club that get's him to sell their souls !

Best suggestion yet

GrumpyOne · Post: # 457904Post **GrumpyOne** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:02pm

congorozides wrote:See. Now you see why have been so pi$$ed off about Hammil on this forum for he past 12 months.
If Hammil was on a 3 year contract like he should have been we could be going for hell for leather after Judd.

Easy to be wise with the benefit of hindsight Con. If Hamill was still fit and tearing the other defences a new one, we would be thankful we still had him tied up. We took a punt, and lost. Move on.

saintlee · Post: # 457905Post **saintlee** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:03pm

saintm wrote:
saintlee wrote:No chance what so ever....we won't give up enough to meet what WCE would want
If they play too hard ball, however, don't they run the risk of him ending up in the PSD (see Port Adelaide and Nick Stevens) and they end up with nothing for him.

I doubt it, they can get plenty for him, particularly from a club like carlton. For eg. Fevola plus pick 3 and 20 (or whatever they're next one is)....no way we can match that.....

Stephen Theodore · Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:03pm

Do we have any players that will be eligible for the veterans list next season ?

saintm · Post: # 457909Post **saintm** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:05pm

GrumpyOne wrote:
congorozides wrote:See. Now you see why have been so pi$$ed off about Hammil on this forum for he past 12 months.
If Hammil was on a 3 year contract like he should have been we could be going for hell for leather after Judd.
Easy to be wise with the benefit of hindsight Con. If Hamill was still fit and tearing the other defences a new one, we would be thankful we still had him tied up. We took a punt, and lost. Move on.

Well said, Grumpy One!!

Mr Magic · Post: # 457910Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:05pm

Stephen Theodore wrote:Do we have any players that will be eligible for the veterans list next season ?

I think Harves nmay be the only one.

GrumpyOne · Post: # 457912Post **GrumpyOne** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:06pm

Mr Magic wrote:
Stephen Theodore wrote:Do we have any players that will be eligible for the veterans list next season ?
I think Harves nmay be the only one.

Maxie?

saintsRrising · Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:07pm

Well lok at it logically..

1/ Do we have much room in our salary cap?

No. (not unless we trade Ro or dal...BUT where is the sense in that!!!!)

Would Judd therefore be willing to play for say oly $400k?

I don't think so

2/ Do we have low draft picks to trade?

No. Our first pick is No. 9.

3/ Do we have good WA players that may want to go home (or who at least may find it attractive to)?

No

4/ Do other clubs have room in their salary cap to pay roundabaout the $0.8 to 1.1 million mark?

Yes there are

5/ Do those same clubs already havea low draft pick?

Yes they do.

6/ does any other club have some good WA players that WC may find attractive?

Yes. Essendon have Ryder, Gumbleton and Ryder to add to Pick No 6.

So all in all there are other clubs who with aLOT less pain than us can offera deal to WC that would be accepted. The Tiges, Blues or Demons would sil have to trade for another lowish pick.BUT we would have to trade for a VERY low pick.....or give away someone like Roo.

Saints Premiers 2008 · Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:07pm

homework wrote:1. There are heaps of topics of Judd on this forum already

2. Gilbert's a star if we trade him i will be pissed of

3. We have a chance of snaring him but i dont really see us getting him with Carlton in the way

4. Hamill wont retire he has another 1-2 years left in him

1. so??? he's the best playing in the comp when fit
2. no he's not...he has amazing potential...nothing near a star
3. no we don't unless we ontrade picks and get involved somehow...
4. are you a doctor???

ffs think before you post such rubbish

cwrcyn · Post: # 457919Post **cwrcyn** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:09pm

With our salary cap being as it is, Judd will not be coming to us.

Anyway, with his OP, West Coast may have had the best of him.

Mr Magic · Post: # 457922Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:11pm

Forget Judd,
What do we need to give WCE to get Twigley? She'll be coming back to Melbourne anyway, who says she has to go to the same club as him?

Maybe either of teh 2 groups fighting for control of the Board could offer her a 'position'?

She could be the Board Member in charge of 'player relations'. Might assist in re-signing out of contract players?

Saints Premiers 2008 · Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:12pm

Mr Magic wrote:Forget Judd,
What do we need to give WCE to get Twigley? She'll be coming back to Melbourne anyway, who says she has to go to the same club as him?

Maybe either of teh 2 groups fighting for control of the Board could offer her a 'position'?

She could be the Board Member in charge of 'player relations'. Might assist in re-signing out of contract players?

just sitting and not opening her mouth would be good

oh so sexist lol

Juggernaut · Post: # 457926Post **Juggernaut** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:17pm

Forget Judd
The Visy Blues will have the deal all wrapped up
Judd on a minimum base contract at the blues, a Job at Visy managing the Vodefone sponsorship for a $Million a year

Saints94 · Post: # 457934Post **Saints94** » Mon 17 Sep 2007 2:29pm

Saints Premiers 2006 wrote:
homework wrote:1. There are heaps of topics of Judd on this forum already

2. Gilbert's a star if we trade him i will be pissed of

3. We have a chance of snaring him but i dont really see us getting him with Carlton in the way

4. Hamill wont retire he has another 1-2 years left in him
1. so??? he's the best playing in the comp when fit
2. no he's not...he has amazing potential...nothing near a star
3. no we don't unless we ontrade picks and get involved somehow...
4. are you a doctor???

ffs think before you post such rubbish

im aloud to post what i think