Kosi - any news re: signing him?

Teflon · Post: # 445683Post **Teflon** » Wed 29 Aug 2007 11:02pm

Been on a few oppo forums and certainly some interest.........surely the club has him as a priority......just stop the drivel/dancing and get it done.

Eastern · Post: # 445702Post **Eastern** » Wed 29 Aug 2007 11:12pm

The longer it goes without any news the more nervous I become !!

Teflon · Post: # 445706Post **Teflon** » Wed 29 Aug 2007 11:15pm

me too - Im stunned the club hasnt even appeared to make some genuine public overtures about getting it done as a priority etc etc...

Has Lyon said anything?

Eastern · Post: # 445709Post **Eastern** » Wed 29 Aug 2007 11:16pm

Teflon wrote:me too - Im stunned the club hasnt even appeared to make some genuine public overtures about getting it done as a priority etc etc...

Has Lyon said anything?

NO: Neither has Kosi's manager !!

Saints Premiers 2008 · Wed 29 Aug 2007 11:29pm

there is no need to worry...him along with goose are sainters through and through

no need to stress they will sign and deliver

kosi has said numerously that he wants mates out of footy and not $$$

and goose is plain and simple a good bloke and somone our club can be proud of now and into the future

Teflon · Post: # 445723Post **Teflon** » Wed 29 Aug 2007 11:42pm

Thats all nice SP........Id still like to hear it from the club....

Dal_Santos_Gal · Wed 29 Aug 2007 11:52pm

I must say... i am a little nervous myself...

but

I believe Kosi will re-sign, he will want to do the same as Rooey and Dal and stick together and hopefully win a flag together...
that pack they made 5 years ago appears to still be very strong.

Beno88 · Post: # 445788Post **Beno88** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:07am

No further contract negotiation will be made with any players until seasons end. Apparently...

jk23 · Post: # 445791Post **jk23** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:09am

Maybe the club are waiting to see if harvs and fraser are going to play on . Wouldn't it free up some extra cash ??

Dal_Santos_Gal · Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:16am

jk23 wrote:Maybe the club are waiting to see if harvs and fraser are going to play on . Wouldn't it free up some extra cash ??

it would free up a little bit but not as much as your thinking I wouldn't think mate.
Both would be on the veteran's list, so they would be no where near as expensive I wouldn't think.

I am not sure exactly sure how the veteran's list works.
Maybe someone could shed more light on it

Beno88 · Post: # 445796Post **Beno88** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:17am

Veterans are not included in the salary cap i think...

plugger66 · Post: # 445797Post **plugger66** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:17am

Beno88 wrote:Veterans are not included in the salary cap i think...

We do not have any veterans this year.

Dal_Santos_Gal · Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:19am

plugger66 wrote:
Beno88 wrote:Veterans are not included in the salary cap i think...
We do not have any veterans this year.

Ha ? don't mind me because I am really not sure how it works but don't the players hit the veterans list once they hit 30. I am really confused now

plugger66 · Post: # 445799Post **plugger66** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:22am

Dal_Santos_Gal wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Beno88 wrote:Veterans are not included in the salary cap i think...
We do not have any veterans this year.
Ha ? don't mind me because I am really not sure how it works but don't the players hit the veterans list once they hit 30. I am really confused now

No only after the age of 30 and 10 years at the club. But you can choose not to place anyone on the list which we have done and can only have 2 veterans on the list every year if you use it.

saintbrat · Post: # 445801Post **saintbrat** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:23am

the club and I guess players and managers decide who is 'classified' as veteran
clubs can only claim two veterans on their list and
a) can either claim them 'inside' the list- within their 38
b) or 'outside' the list which means they are counted with the rookies to make up the 6 to bring lists to 44

Not sure how it works for TPP- but if classified as a veteran then only 'half' their payments are included within the teams TPP

Harves and Max are our two designated veterans for 2007- but within the 38

do veterans need to have played 10 years with their current team? which would exclude Fraser- answered by plugger66- thanks

Dal_Santos_Gal · Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:27am

plugger66 wrote:
Dal_Santos_Gal wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Beno88 wrote:Veterans are not included in the salary cap i think...
We do not have any veterans this year.
Ha ? don't mind me because I am really not sure how it works but don't the players hit the veterans list once they hit 30. I am really confused now
No only after the age of 30 and 10 years at the club. But you can choose not to place anyone on the list which we have done and can only have 2 veterans on the list every year if you use it.

Thanks for that.. I was just looking for the ruling and found pretty much what you have just said..

Dan Warna · Post: # 445826Post **Dan Warna** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 11:11am

two veterans = 50% of the income included in the TPP
three veterans = 33% of their income NOT included in teh TPP
four veterans = 25% of their income NOT included in the teh TPP

stinger · Post: # 445831Post **stinger** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 11:18am

saintbrat wrote:the club and I guess players and managers decide who is 'classified' as veteran
clubs can only claim two veterans on their list and
a) can either claim them 'inside' the list- within their 38
b) or 'outside' the list which means they are counted with the rookies to make up the 6 to bring lists to 44

Not sure how it works for TPP- but if classified as a veteran then only 'half' their payments are included within the teams TPP

Harves and Max are our two designated veterans for 2007- but within the 38

do veterans need to have played 10 years with their current team? which would exclude Fraser- answered by plugger66- thanks

you are correct.....

SENsei · Post: # 445833Post **SENsei** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 11:23am

I must say I wasn't really concerned about Kosi re-signing as I think he still will, until I heard Grant Thomas on radio on Friday night say that 'he's very concerned Kosi hasn't signed'.

I think it will take a Godfather offer for him to leave.

bendigo bob · Thu 30 Aug 2007 11:52am

SENsaintsational wrote:I must say I wasn't really concerned about Kosi re-signing as I think he still will, until I heard Grant Thomas on radio on Friday night say that 'he's very concerned Kosi hasn't signed'.

I think it will take a Godfather offer for him to leave.

Does anyone still pay attention to what GT says on SEN anymore???? I think not.

We went through all this last time Kosi was to be re-signed and in the end it was all ok. While I believe he will sign there are always doubts raised until pen is put to paper. RL has said recently at some of his press conferences that he wants and expects Kosi to stay with the saints. Thats good enough for me.

SENsei · Post: # 445855Post **SENsei** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 12:01pm

bendigo bob wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:I must say I wasn't really concerned about Kosi re-signing as I think he still will, until I heard Grant Thomas on radio on Friday night say that 'he's very concerned Kosi hasn't signed'.

I think it will take a Godfather offer for him to leave.
Does anyone still pay attention to what GT says on SEN anymore???? I think not.

Well I must be the exception. I've always been a black sheep.

Worries me about how much 'inside' stuff he knows. He doesn't usually say much, so it just pricked my ears up to hear it.

Dan Warna · Post: # 445858Post **Dan Warna** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 12:11pm

i have resigned myself back to a sense of fatalism.

probably enjoy my football a bit more instead of raging so much.

he goes he goes, he stays he stays.

hope we dont get jerked on the trade if he does go, if he stays hope he is a gun superstar.

that is all

saintbrat · Post: # 446160Post **saintbrat** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:05pm

Eastern wrote:
Teflon wrote:me too - Im stunned the club hasnt even appeared to make some genuine public overtures about getting it done as a priority etc etc...

Has Lyon said anything?
NO: Neither has Kosi's manager !!

because his manager doesn't use the media to enhance discusssions as others do

evertonfc · Post: # 446166Post **evertonfc** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:08pm

Surely our board wouldn't let this guy go...surely?

satchmo · Post: # 446174Post **satchmo** » Thu 30 Aug 2007 9:13pm

saintbrat wrote: because his manager doesn't use the media to enhance discusssions as others do

Is Liam Pickering his manager ?