Sam Newman -Hawks

Total Awareness · Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:23am

My bro played for the Box hill Hawks for a number of seasons and at the time (from 01-04) said that there were a stack of players using all sorts of stuff. On a number of social outings he was exposed to a lot of different things from players on the Hawks senior list. He told me about this years ago. Said it was rife!

Selhurst Saint · Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:26am

If Kennett has anything resembling a spine then he should stick by his word and sack them all.

(I am only responding to the initial post)

saintspremiers · Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:27am

or is this post just an excuse for self promotion??

Total Awareness · Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:30am

No need for self promotion here. i have better and more productive avenues for that!

Joffa Burns · Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:37am

I saw one use miraculous talent on the weekend.

If he kicked straight it would have been an incredible display.

Better than Rooey at the same age and experience (and I think Rooey is in the best three KPP players in the competition and best 6 overall)

Has the ability to be an all time great and frightening for those who play on him.

Mr Magic · Post: # 444632Post **Mr Magic** » Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:50am

Selhurst Saint wrote:If Kennett has anything resembling a spine then he should stick by his word and sack them all.

(I am only responding to the initial post)

Well IF it is Hawthorn and the injunction is upheld, Kennet won't be able to do anything as under AFL rules , the club would have no knowledge of any drug use.

I would think that the AFLPA who have said they are asking to join the injunction could claim that by releasing the names publicly, players would be risking being terminated from their employment.
For arguments sake, IF the club involved was Hawthorn, their President has publicly stated that he would sack any player found to be on drugs.

RooandKosi · Tue 28 Aug 2007 12:15pm

2001 definetly they loved it.

Dan Warna · Post: # 444657Post **Dan Warna** » Tue 28 Aug 2007 12:16pm

I point to Jonathon Hay.

no injunction on his comments.

he said basically the same thing, about the hawks.

IMO the hawks have been rumbled.

stinger · Post: # 444820Post **stinger** » Tue 28 Aug 2007 3:59pm

Dan Warna wrote:I point to Jonathon Hay.

no injunction on his comments.

he said basically the same thing, about the hawks.

IMO the hawks have been rumbled.

bit of a worry....hay and thompson...two former hawks...both suffering from depression........i won't say anymore at this stage......

st_Trav_ofWA · Tue 28 Aug 2007 4:04pm

stinger wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:I point to Jonathon Hay.

no injunction on his comments.

he said basically the same thing, about the hawks.

IMO the hawks have been rumbled.

bit of a worry....hay and thompson...two former hawks...both suffering from depression........i won't say anymore at this stage......

well they are the happy team at hawthorn

Eastern · Post: # 444829Post **Eastern** » Tue 28 Aug 2007 4:09pm

I'm thinking that this entire thread is sailing pretty close to the wind. I hope our mods are keeping a close eye on it !!

Enrico_Misso · Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:01pm

stinger wrote:bit of a worry....hay and thompson...two former hawks...both suffering from depression........i won't say anymore at this stage......

And old caring compassionate Mr "Beyond Blue" couldn't unload them quick enough.

plugger66 · Post: # 445058Post **plugger66** » Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:03pm

Enrico_Misso wrote:
stinger wrote:bit of a worry....hay and thompson...two former hawks...both suffering from depression........i won't say anymore at this stage......
And old caring compassionate Mr "Beyond Blue" couldn't unload them quick enough.

Not sure the president has much to do with delistings.

Enrico_Misso · Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:09pm

plugger66 wrote:
Enrico_Misso wrote:
stinger wrote:bit of a worry....hay and thompson...two former hawks...both suffering from depression........i won't say anymore at this stage......
And old caring compassionate Mr "Beyond Blue" couldn't unload them quick enough.
Not sure the president has much to do with delistings.

My understanding is that most Boards do get involved when "key" players are traded.
And I would imagine that if the club doctors were aware these players had "problems" then Jeff would most likely have known.
And I don't think that sits well with his other hat.

plugger66 · Post: # 445066Post **plugger66** » Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:13pm

Enrico_Misso wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Enrico_Misso wrote:
stinger wrote:bit of a worry....hay and thompson...two former hawks...both suffering from depression........i won't say anymore at this stage......
And old caring compassionate Mr "Beyond Blue" couldn't unload them quick enough.
Not sure the president has much to do with delistings.
My understanding is that most Boards do get involved when "key" players are traded.
And I would imagine that if the club doctors were aware these players had "problems" then Jeff would most likely have known.
And I don't think that sits well with his other hat.

The board would never get invovled with players of their standard. Maybe a rooy because he is the face of the club but for say a Sam Fisher no and he is better than those to IMO.

Enrico_Misso · Tue 28 Aug 2007 11:24pm

plugger66 wrote:The board would never get invovled with players of their standard. Maybe a rooy because he is the face of the club but for say a Sam Fisher no and he is better than those to IMO.

Maybe you are right Plugger66 that they wouldn't attract Board attention, but they were bordering on top class players.

Nevertheless,
the irony of a club - led by a President preaching how important it is to recognise, sympathise, empathise, and rehabilitate people suffering from depression - then dumping two sufferers is irrisistible.

They were Jeffed !

aussierules0k · Wed 29 Aug 2007 2:04am

Total Awareness · Wed 29 Aug 2007 8:19am

We'd be fooling ourselves if we believed that there wasn't at least one player at every club who was using recreational drugs in some fashion. Its a massive issue and not a new one either. One must ask the question....how did Gary Ablett fly so high in his playing days??? Especially given what transpired after his career and the ups and downs of the man while he was playing....

Mr Magic · Post: # 445135Post **Mr Magic** » Wed 29 Aug 2007 8:43am

It was lucky that Dildo was so 'drunk' he couldn't remember much about the night he left Spearmint Rhino with Hudson. Otherwise he might finally be able to explain why he spent so much time at the Bikie Gang HQ?

I'm sure I read a news report when Hudson was later arrested for the shootings in the City that the Hells Angels chapter he belonged to in SE Qld and in NSW had been involved in a 'turf war' over teh supply of illegal 'substances' to nightclubs, and that he was a 'standover man' for them in their endeavours.

Dan Warna · Post: # 445141Post **Dan Warna** » Wed 29 Aug 2007 9:33am

Well it didn't get much press but Aussie Jones retired from senior football citing stress and depression.

he remains a firm fan of the saint kilda football club and for one I respect his decision, life is bigger than football.

seems he is geniunely enjoying his time now.

saint66au · Post: # 445142Post **saint66au** » Wed 29 Aug 2007 9:37am

Sorry..guys...erring on the side of caution..but that asterisk-ridden post had to go

meher baba · Wed 29 Aug 2007 11:02am

stinger wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:I point to Jonathon Hay.

no injunction on his comments.

he said basically the same thing, about the hawks.

IMO the hawks have been rumbled.

bit of a worry....hay and thompson...two former hawks...both suffer
ing from depression........i won't say anymore at this stage......

Mmmmmm......interesting point, Stinger............

golden hawk · Wed 29 Aug 2007 4:42pm

Dan Warna wrote:I point to Jonathon Hay.

no injunction on his comments.

he said basically the same thing, about the hawks.

IMO the hawks have been rumbled.

he was the one who came out and said he did,
different story.

i think you are treading on dangerous ground with this thread please,
people like posting on saintsational [saint supporters etc me included],
if you post things like this you may get the people who run this site in touble and sued,
which would lead this site to being closed to any sort of posting there is an injuction in place remember that , also i am sure every club would have someone on the crap or getting off it so please leave this subject alone !

golden hawk · Wed 29 Aug 2007 4:48pm

stinger wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:I point to Jonathon Hay.

no injunction on his comments.

he said basically the same thing, about the hawks.

IMO the hawks have been rumbled.

bit of a worry....hay and thompson...two former hawks...both suffering from depression........i won't say anymore at this stage......

don't reckon Thommo was not on anything if you ask me bar his medication for depression the legal stuff !

Solar · Post: # 445345Post **Solar** » Wed 29 Aug 2007 4:49pm

golden hawk wrote:
stinger wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:I point to Jonathon Hay.

no injunction on his comments.

he said basically the same thing, about the hawks.

IMO the hawks have been rumbled.

bit of a worry....hay and thompson...two former hawks...both suffering from depression........i won't say anymore at this stage......
don't reckon Thommo was not on anything if you ask me bar his medication for depression the legal stuff !

oh come on, you saying 2 + 2 desn't equal 4?