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Last 4 National drafts

Post: # 2083094Post B.M »

The plan was to hit the draft for 4 years

2021 - next year turning 22
Nasiah Wanganeen Milera - Elite (3)
Michito Owens - Bull hybrid forward
Marcus Windhager - Tagger
2022 - Turning 21
Mattaes Phillipou - Gun (4)
James Van Es - Delisted
Ollie Hotton - Delisted
Isaac Keeler - project fwd/ruck
2023 -Turning 20 (5)
Darcy Wilson - Jet
Lance Collard - talented but raw
Angus Hastie - Speed
Hugo Garcia - Surprise bargain
Arie Schoenmaker - Slider
2024 - Turning 19 (6)
Tobie Travaglia - Classy and courageous
Alix Tauru - Freak
James Barrett - competitor
Hugh Boxshall - Tough and aggressive mid
Alex Dodson - Mobile Ruck
Patrick Said - Neat and smart small forward

Add to that
Max Heath - Raw and tough
Anthony Caminiti - powerful
Angus McLennan - good overhead for his size
Max Hall - Clever mid/HF
Liam O’Connell - athletic HB


That’s 21 under 23 - there will be a few more busts but we have now invested HEAVILY in the draft!!!

B: McLennan - Barratt - Schoenmaker
HB: NWM - Tauru - Hastie
C: Wilson - Phillipou - Travaglia
HF: Owens - Caminiti - Garcia
F: Collard - Keeler - Said
Foll: Dodson - Boxshall - Windhager
Int: Heath - Hall - O’Connell


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LDU & Brayshaw next year to finish 😊😊


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Post: # 2083096Post B.M »

Honestly- next year we probably on take 3 in the draft

Delisted
Zak Jones
Zaine Cordy
Jimmy Webster
Brad Crouch (r)

Big year for
Isaac Keeler
Lance Collard
Angus Hastie
Arie Schoenmaker
Marcus Windhager
Anthony Caminiti
Max Hall
Max Heath
Liam O’Connoll
Angus McLennan
Dougal Howard


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Post: # 2083098Post Scollop »

I think the young blokes just have to show a willingness to work hard and hit small achievements along the way.

Caminiti and Windy need a consistent run at senior level and need to show they can impact in 1 out of every 3 games imo.


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Post: # 2083103Post cwrcyn »

A real focus on high endurance in the past two drafts. I'm not fussed about picking up the mids later in the draft, rather than earlier. There have been many gun midfielders selected after pick 30 over the years and I think we'll see a good example in 2025 with Hugo Garcia

We have finally selected a ruckman of genuine quality. It's been a long rume


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Rowan Marshall?!


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2016


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Post: # 2083112Post Otiman »

B.M wrote: Thu 21 Nov 2024 11:13pm Honestly- next year we probably on take 3 in the draft

Delisted
Zak Jones
Zaine Cordy
Jimmy Webster
Brad Crouch (r)

Big year for
Isaac Keeler
Lance Collard
Angus Hastie
Arie Schoenmaker
Marcus Windhager
Anthony Caminiti
Max Hall
Max Heath
Liam O’Connoll
Angus McLennan
Dougal Howard
I think at least 4 of your second list will be gone too.


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Post: # 2083113Post Otiman »

cwrcyn wrote: Fri 22 Nov 2024 4:17am A real focus on high endurance in the past two drafts. I'm not fussed about picking up the mids later in the draft, rather than earlier. There have been many gun midfielders selected after pick 30 over the years and I think we'll see a good example in 2025 with Hugo Garcia

We have finally selected a ruckman of genuine quality. It's been a long rume
Running, Endurance, Foot skills.

We are building a very specific team.


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Post: # 2083220Post Ozymandias »

Re Mids late in the draft - Lachie Neale was picked by Freo at Pick 58 ... !!


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Post: # 2083221Post SaintWiki »

Scollop wrote: Thu 21 Nov 2024 11:21pm I think the young blokes just have to show a willingness to work hard and hit small achievements along the way.

Caminiti and Windy need a consistent run at senior level and need to show they can impact in 1 out of every 3 games imo.
If they don't they'll left behind


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Post: # 2083222Post samuraisaint »

B.M wrote: Thu 21 Nov 2024 11:13pm Honestly- next year we probably on take 3 in the draft

Delisted
Zak Jones
Zaine Cordy
Jimmy Webster
Brad Crouch (r)

Big year for
Isaac Keeler
Lance Collard
Angus Hastie
Arie Schoenmaker
Marcus Windhager
Anthony Caminiti
Max Hall
Max Heath
Liam O’Connoll
Angus McLennan
Dougal Howard
Agree, and I believe there will probably be more delistings than the 4 you have listed. Before Tasmania come in, we need to keep hitting the draft, especially our first two picks.


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Post: # 2083223Post Otiman »

samuraisaint wrote: Sat 23 Nov 2024 7:27am Agree, and I believe there will probably be more delistings than the 4 you have listed. Before Tasmania come in, we need to keep hitting the draft, especially our first two picks.
Unless we trade out, our second pick next year will be a 3rd rounder.


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Post: # 2083232Post B.M »

Look for us to chase a FA next year


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Post: # 2083245Post Yorkeys »

Like every year.
Fortunately the need is reducing each year. Perversely the better a side gets the easier it is to get better, "equalisation" is just an aspiration.


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Post: # 2083649Post CQ SAINT »

In the new era it means nothing to turn over 6-8 players a year. They are commodities. There is a salary cap. It makes sense.


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Re: Last 4 National drafts

Post: # 2083660Post bobmurray »

samuraisaint wrote: Sat 23 Nov 2024 7:27am
B.M wrote: Thu 21 Nov 2024 11:13pm Honestly- next year we probably on take 3 in the draft

Delisted
Zak Jones
Zaine Cordy
Jimmy Webster
Brad Crouch (r)

Big year for
Isaac Keeler
Lance Collard
Angus Hastie
Arie Schoenmaker
Marcus Windhager
Anthony Caminiti
Max Hall
Max Heath
Liam O’Connoll
Angus McLennan
Dougal Howard
Agree, and I believe there will probably be more delistings than the 4 you have listed. Before Tasmania come in, we need to keep hitting the draft, especially our first two picks.
We usually delist about 8 players at the end of every season, at the start of this pre-season i can't find 8 players that might be punted, at the end of the 2025 season that task might be a bit easier.


How many defenders will The Saints pick in the 2024 draft ? :lol:
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Post: # 2083665Post Killa »

The challenge is on every player to improve performance and contribution - and their ability to do so will instruct as to their futures

There are some coming off injury and/or had restricted seasons because of injury

Just off the top of my head, I would mention Howard and Clark who both missed the first half of the season (then became automatic selections when they became available) then Henry, King and Windhager with Cameniti missing late

It is notable (to me at least) that the returns of Howard and Clark coincided with the wins (noting that Clark was absent for our poor performance against Brisbane)

Phillipou also came back into the side late and contributed

I thought Windhager’s early form before injury was good and I am looking forward to him coming back

Then there are the kids we gave some exposure to and those yet to debut, which includes quite a few names so fingers crossed


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Post: # 2083668Post Scollop »

19 players are currently out of contract at the end of next year. Sure provides incentive for all 19 to go hard in preseason...

Also...Gives our list management team good flexibility to cull at the end of 2025. I'm always greatful to those who bled for the jumper and saddened by young players getting injuries and not being able to continue their careers.

Some are very raw still and will probably get extensions. The most important player we need to sign up right now is Nas.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/to-st-kilda-saints


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Post: # 2083669Post Scollop »

Did you know the top 20 in this year's National Draft are given 3 year contracts?

Seems that's part of the new CBA

Puts recruiters under even more pressure. You wouldn't want to be picking a dud from say pick 15-20. You're stuck with them for 3 years

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1031592/thr ... in-new-cba


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