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Horse scratched

Post: # 2083459Post Scollop »

They might win a Premiership now :mrgreen:

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1259715


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Re: Horse scratched

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Scollop wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 11:44am They might win a Premiership now :mrgreen:

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1259715
Won premiership with him as coach
:roll: :roll:
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Re: Horse scratched

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Even without all his advantages he couldn't cope.


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CURLY wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 12:11pm Even without all his advantages he couldn't cope.
Took 15 years to realise that

Why pot him curly


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Re: Horse scratched

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chook23 wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 12:24pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 12:11pm Even without all his advantages he couldn't cope.
Took 15 years to realise that

Why pot him curly

Think hes over rated.


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CURLY wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 1:05pm
chook23 wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 12:24pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 12:11pm Even without all his advantages he couldn't cope.
Took 15 years to realise that

Why pot him curly

Think hes over rated.
I only came to doubt his effectiveness in the last 3 years.

That Sydney flag in Longmire's first year as senior coach was more as a result of the momentum and legacy from Paul Roos.The 2012 team could have coached themselves.

He's been a very very good coach and was unlucky in 2016.

I think he's gone passed his use by date. I wouldn't have said this if Sydney hadn't performed so poorly in the Grand Final this year


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The name of the game is to win Premierships. I think after the debacle of that loss to Port Adelaide late in the year, it was a warning sign that Longmire wasn't preparing the team to perform at their best.

Their dominance prior to that game gave them an opportunity. It was up to the coach to capitalise on that momentum and hunger.

Obviously...he thought he was doing the right thing..but I don't think you can afford to cruise as a collective. You can't afford to assume that a majority of the team can pretend to be competitive by just turning up and earning match payments.

They 'd destroyed teams and went on a 10-game-in-a row winning streak before narrowly losing to the Dockers by 1 point in round 16 and then losing by 2 points to us in round 17. They lost to Brisbane at the Gabba by only 2 points in rnd 19.

Sydney was sitting on top of the ladder and when you're 2 games clear with only 5 rounds to go...and a top 4 spot all but locked away, it's your job to plan for finals. It's your job to keep the players keen and hungry and you utilise the whole list to achieve your ultimate goal


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Isn’t it the players job?

4 grand finals
1 premiership

Good record


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Shame he's not going into commentary. Loved his ability to call out hypocrisy and bs, from other coaches, players, afl and journos - with a dry one liner. Smart guy.
(Jack Reiwoldt is the polar opposite, unserious smirking babbling head, vacuous.)


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Horse was a very very good coach. Just think he may have lost an edge

I think same goes for Hardwick and Clarkson


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One out of five ain't real good.
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Re: Horse scratched

Post: # 2083489Post bobmurray »

Good of Sydney to create a new job for Horse post his coaching career, something like Elite Performance Manager of the cleaning staff. :lol: :lol:


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B.M wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 3:26pm Isn’t it the players job?

4 grand finals
1 premiership

Good record
5 Grand Finals
1 premiership

The Hawks also gave them a hiding in the COLA Grand Final in 2014.


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saynta wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 4:12pm I out of five aint real good.
Scraped through to more than was expected, is good.


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Post: # 2083495Post StNoodles »

Some interesting comments in here, considering the eerily similar record to Ross. Only difference being that Ross hasn’t won a flag


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StNoodles wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 7:03pm Some interesting comments in here, considering the eerily similar record to Ross. Only difference being that Ross hasn’t won a flag
Ross never had the AFL batting for the Saints big time like they did for Sydney back in the day.


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samuraisaint wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 6:31pm
B.M wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 3:26pm Isn’t it the players job?

4 grand finals
1 premiership

Good record
5 Grand Finals
1 premiership

The Hawks also gave them a hiding in the COLA Grand Final in 2014.
We're at
6 Grand Finals (7 if you count the draw - but I'm counting the years)
1 Premiership
In like 150 years (or whatever it is).

Geez, now I don't feel so good.


As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”


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Would you take

5 grand finals and 1 premiership- making the final 8 out 10 seasons?

I’d give my left nut for that


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B.M wrote: Tue 26 Nov 2024 9:46pm Would you take

5 grand finals and 1 premiership- making the final 8 out 10 seasons?

I’d give my left nut for that
Getting gifted top end talent no matter his teams finish helps. Not to mention the cash to buy Buddy.


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The horse has bolted


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Is getting a Cox to replace a Horse an extreme example of the Ted Lasso coaching theory?
Stroke boys, stroke......
Stern seems to have gone further into the water.....note to fitness staff: must diet.


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We were gifted top end talent for being s*** in 2000-2002

Still got to make it work

They developed their ‘gifts’


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B.M wrote: Wed 27 Nov 2024 12:02pm We were gifted top end talent for being s*** in 2000-2002

Still got to make it work

They developed their ‘gifts’
Yep and when we lost finals we got a player rated 15-16 etc. They lose a GF get pick 3 and Buddy.


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Good management


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Seems like Chris Scott has done better


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