I want pick 2
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- ace
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10795
- Joined: Sun 16 Dec 2007 3:28pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 31 times
- Been thanked: 836 times
I want pick 2
North only have two picks in this draft picks 2 and 62 so may be willing to trade down pick 2 to get another chance in this draft.
In practice that is one realistic pick.
Lets make it clear what you get with pick 2, you get the 3rd best pick after Brisbane take Ashcroft.
Even if they are able to delay matching some clubs bid for him he is still defacto the best pick.
That makes North's pick 2 worth pick 3 and St Kilda pick 7 worth pick 8 and St Kilda's pick 8 worth pick 9.
St Kilda's pick 32 will be around there but dependant on maybe 5 queue jumping picks ahead of it pushing it back but also picks being used as part of those jumps bringing it forward.
So pick 2 (defacto 3) is realistically worth 2234 points, pick 7 (defacto 8) realistically worth 1551points, pick 32 is worth 584 points
The offer would be picks 7 and 32 for pick 2.
The 3rd best pick should produce a better outcome for St Kilda than the 8th best pick.
In practice that is one realistic pick.
Lets make it clear what you get with pick 2, you get the 3rd best pick after Brisbane take Ashcroft.
Even if they are able to delay matching some clubs bid for him he is still defacto the best pick.
That makes North's pick 2 worth pick 3 and St Kilda pick 7 worth pick 8 and St Kilda's pick 8 worth pick 9.
St Kilda's pick 32 will be around there but dependant on maybe 5 queue jumping picks ahead of it pushing it back but also picks being used as part of those jumps bringing it forward.
So pick 2 (defacto 3) is realistically worth 2234 points, pick 7 (defacto 8) realistically worth 1551points, pick 32 is worth 584 points
The offer would be picks 7 and 32 for pick 2.
The 3rd best pick should produce a better outcome for St Kilda than the 8th best pick.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 17047
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3663 times
- Been thanked: 2927 times
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2929
- Joined: Mon 28 Apr 2008 4:56pm
- Location: victoria
- Has thanked: 265 times
- Been thanked: 121 times
Re: I want pick 2
More good picks in this draft,just think this is the time to add more young talent to what we have picked up last couple of drafts
- The_Dud
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 14059
- Joined: Sun 27 May 2007 9:53pm
- Location: Bendigo
- Has thanked: 1315 times
- Been thanked: 2093 times
Re: I want pick 2
That's an atrocious deal for North
All posters are equal, but some posters are more equal than others.
- ace
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10795
- Joined: Sun 16 Dec 2007 3:28pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 31 times
- Been thanked: 836 times
Re: I want pick 2
St Kilda has too many "good" players but is missing "elite" players.
You need an elite team to win a premiership, you need a good team to be an also competed team.
The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
When I was a young child, I knew that I knew so much about so much.
Now that I am old and know so much more, I know that I know so much about so little, and so little about so much.
If you are not engaging AI actively and aggressively, you are doing it wrong.
You are not going to lose your job to AI.
You are going lose your job to somebody who uses AI.
Your company is not going to go out of business because of AI.
Your company is going to go out of business because another company used AI.
- Jensen Huang, CEO of NVIDIA
- bobmurray
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7932
- Joined: Mon 03 Oct 2005 11:08pm
- Location: In the stand at RSEA Park.
- Has thanked: 547 times
- Been thanked: 252 times
Re: I want pick 2
Yep, the snoz won't fall for that offer.
How many defenders will The Saints pick in the 2024 draft ?
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23154
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 3:53pm
- Has thanked: 9103 times
- Been thanked: 3948 times
Re: I want pick 2
I would leave those type of decisions to the three professionals that the club employs and pays pretty well.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4342
- Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
- Location: earth
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 1467 times
Re: I want pick 2
Whatever we do, the worst outcome will be us having picks 7 & 8. Nothing to cry about there
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19154
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1609 times
- Been thanked: 2030 times
Re: I want pick 2
What number did Wilson go for?
And Wanganeen-Milera and Phillipou for that matter
Two more of them is preferential to one higher Draft Pick.
Plus, with more of these kids you build a culture - starting with Clark and King as high end Draft Picks
These are our building blocks
And Wanganeen-Milera and Phillipou for that matter
Two more of them is preferential to one higher Draft Pick.
Plus, with more of these kids you build a culture - starting with Clark and King as high end Draft Picks
These are our building blocks
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 336
- Joined: Wed 29 Nov 2023 8:53pm
- Has thanked: 868 times
- Been thanked: 135 times
Re: I want pick 2
If anything, split 8 for say 11 and 14. With pick 9 gone we may still be able to bring in another pick for a F1st.
RTB has stated they were aiming to have three picks in the first round. I'd love to see us go to the draft with 7, 11, 14 and that other first rounder.
That's four. Two gun midfielders, a tall KP type, and a promising young ruckman, preferably Alex Dodson from SA.
RTB has stated they were aiming to have three picks in the first round. I'd love to see us go to the draft with 7, 11, 14 and that other first rounder.
That's four. Two gun midfielders, a tall KP type, and a promising young ruckman, preferably Alex Dodson from SA.
"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."
- diddley
- Club Player
- Posts: 711
- Joined: Sat 29 Oct 2016 12:53am
- Has thanked: 64 times
- Been thanked: 202 times
Re: I want pick 2
I don’t think we are done yet. I think SOS will make a play live on draft night.
A couple of plays I am predicting.
Try to swap a future first for a mid to late 2024 first to grab someone “I can’t believe they were still on the board”
(See Liam Stocker a few years ago)
If the players we REALLY wanted are gone after our pick 7, we will live trade pick 8 to someone like gws for their 15&16.
A lot of these plays will happen once people see who lands where. I think there are going to be heaps of massive offers coming in for pick 8 on the night.
A couple of plays I am predicting.
Try to swap a future first for a mid to late 2024 first to grab someone “I can’t believe they were still on the board”
(See Liam Stocker a few years ago)
If the players we REALLY wanted are gone after our pick 7, we will live trade pick 8 to someone like gws for their 15&16.
A lot of these plays will happen once people see who lands where. I think there are going to be heaps of massive offers coming in for pick 8 on the night.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3637
- Joined: Wed 21 May 2008 8:51pm
- Location: Tassie
- Has thanked: 492 times
- Been thanked: 316 times
Re: I want pick 2
I’ve got no doubt we’ll sit back and let one of the powerhouse teams waltz in and snatch pick 3 and then complain about the strong teams getting stronger!!
- Life Long Saint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5535
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:54pm
- Has thanked: 63 times
- Been thanked: 484 times
- Contact:
Re: I want pick 2
Yep...You need an elite team, not a group of elite players!
We have the nucleus of a young elite team...Wilson (pick 18), NWM (11), Phillipou (10), King (4), Owens (33a), and Windhager (47a) form that nucleus. We keep adding top end talent to that and they grow into an elite team of really good footballers.
There are a few key elements that we are missing from that. Namely a really strong clearance mid and a good ruck back up for Marshall.
7, 8, and 32 will help us do that.
- D.B.Cooper
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2210
- Joined: Sun 24 Oct 2021 5:50pm
- Has thanked: 792 times
- Been thanked: 753 times
Re: I want pick 2
Please no, don’t let SOS near drafting or trading live picks.diddley wrote: ↑Thu 17 Oct 2024 10:11pm I don’t think we are done yet. I think SOS will make a play live on draft night.
A couple of plays I am predicting.
Try to swap a future first for a mid to late 2024 first to grab someone “I can’t believe they were still on the board”
(See Liam Stocker a few years ago)
If the players we REALLY wanted are gone after our pick 7, we will live trade pick 8 to someone like gws for their 15&16.
A lot of these plays will happen once people see who lands where. I think there are going to be heaps of massive offers coming in for pick 8 on the night.
Remember SOS trading the first live pick in the draft for Liam Stocker.
From memory he traded to 2019 Carlton first rounder for #19 in 2018 used on Stocker. 2019 pick ended up #4. Can’t recall if Adelaide got anything back.
I have no confidence is SOS.
Disastrous top 10 selections while at GWS, took a heap of GWS rejects at Carlton and now seems to want to follow that pattern with Dow & Kemp.
I’m sure it’s not all SOS’s doing with poor drafting record etc (it’s takes a village to f*** up recruiting), I just don’t see him as a high end strategist or list manager or overly bright.
There's only one rule in the jungle! When the LYON's hungry, he eats!
-
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2135
- Joined: Fri 22 Jul 2005 9:27am
- Location: Rockville
- Has thanked: 595 times
- Been thanked: 178 times
Re: I want pick 2
I was wondering if we could get 10 or 11 from Richmond?
Opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 416
- Joined: Wed 01 May 2024 11:58pm
- Has thanked: 146 times
- Been thanked: 108 times
Re: I want pick 2
Given this is expected to be a super draft, I think it would probably need some extra incentive for Richmond to trade out. Maybe a future second, or maybe 8 and a future first for 10 and 11 or something.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 791
- Joined: Sun 10 Jul 2022 3:22pm
- Has thanked: 87 times
- Been thanked: 145 times
Re: I want pick 2
We could possibly get pick 2 by offering 7 or 8; 32 and next year's first pick. The question is, will we get someone significantly better with pick 2 than we would with pick 7 or 8? If so we should do it.
There is also the option of trading our future 1st and 32 for a third (later) first rounder.
I've got a feeling we are going to do something with pick swapping, as we appeared determined to keep pick 32.
There is also the option of trading our future 1st and 32 for a third (later) first rounder.
I've got a feeling we are going to do something with pick swapping, as we appeared determined to keep pick 32.
- D.B.Cooper
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2210
- Joined: Sun 24 Oct 2021 5:50pm
- Has thanked: 792 times
- Been thanked: 753 times
Re: I want pick 2
I agree it would be a huge bounty to get #2 in this years highly rated draft.The G Train Legacy wrote: ↑Fri 18 Oct 2024 12:40pm We could possibly get pick 2 by offering 7 or 8; 32 and next year's first pick. The question is, will we get someone significantly better with pick 2 than we would with pick 7 or 8? If so we should do it.
There is also the option of trading our future 1st and 32 for a third (later) first rounder.
I've got a feeling we are going to do something with pick swapping, as we appeared determined to keep pick 32.
I'd guess #8 + #32 and next years first would be the cost.
There's only one rule in the jungle! When the LYON's hungry, he eats!
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 416
- Joined: Wed 01 May 2024 11:58pm
- Has thanked: 146 times
- Been thanked: 108 times
Re: I want pick 2
I think we will be trading picks around too.The G Train Legacy wrote: ↑Fri 18 Oct 2024 12:40pm We could possibly get pick 2 by offering 7 or 8; 32 and next year's first pick. The question is, will we get someone significantly better with pick 2 than we would with pick 7 or 8? If so we should do it.
There is also the option of trading our future 1st and 32 for a third (later) first rounder.
I've got a feeling we are going to do something with pick swapping, as we appeared determined to keep pick 32.
The question might be what we plan to do with our NGA prospects, we would need points to match bids but if we don't plan on taking them we might be ok with trading up. Or if we do trade up, also picking up some junk picks for points
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12738
- Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
- Has thanked: 5 times
- Been thanked: 2715 times
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3637
- Joined: Wed 21 May 2008 8:51pm
- Location: Tassie
- Has thanked: 492 times
- Been thanked: 316 times
Re: I want pick 2
The rumours are still rife, that we are trying to manufacture a trade with North for pick 2 which would give us access to Finn, Jagga or Sid.
Make it happen SOS!!!
Make it happen SOS!!!