Draft Watch

[Banger9798]

Pick 14 coming from GC?

Assuming we would give up our F1 and Pick 26?

[Saints58]

Could we get GC pick 13with our Pick 46-331 points plus our next year first rounder which should be enough. If not enough I am sure we could do a deal with GC.
That would give us 8,9,13,27 not a bad hand

[diddley]

Could we get GC pick 13with our Pick 46-331 points plus our next year first rounder which should be enough. If not enough I am sure we could do a deal with GC.
That would give us 8,9,13,27 not a bad hand

They won’t want a third round + a first round
when a second round + a first round is on the table from Carlton.

[B.M]

It all depends on what the picks are

If Carlton finish top 6

It’s a pick 13-18

If we finish bottom 6

It’s pick 1-6

Big difference

[SaintDippa]

Also if GC want a top 8 spot 2025 don't think giving 13 to Carl or Coll to get stronger by trading for Houston is a clever decision. But will we have the points collateral to trade for 13 and give back late 2024 selections?

[SaintDippa]

.. and son went thru juniors at Orch with Smil so saw a lot. If he slips we will be getting an 194 inside beast ready to go R1. Mums side are all mad Sainters but I’d suggest his want is to get to Tulla and wear 21.
Interesting comment on Jagga in thread. Ripping kid, runs all day, however slight build means (hope not and he dominates) might be another Dow or Billings. Dominate underage but physically could be found out at AFL level when crunched and ploughed by 100kgs.

[older saint]

pick 13 is key for Houston deal , Will go to collingwood for Noble and picks back. 13 then goes top port with the small forward who wants out for Houston and other stuff .

[Brunswicksainter]

Jagga Smith biggest trap of the draft

Why?

Small and slight in frame (will take at least 3 years to be fully AFL ready), substandard user of the football for a player touted as a top 3 pick, no ability to overhead mark and played best footy in Coates league when the rest of the comp was playing in APS.

Near identical u18 season and attributes to Paddy Dow but a bit smaller.

Although inn all fairness I am just a keyboard hero whose seen him play 4 times so take my words with a grain of salt.

[CURLY]

No Jagga Smith.

Big yes to Cody ANDERSON.

[D.B.Cooper]

No Jagga Smith.

Big yes to Cody ANDERSON.

I asked a recruiter about Anderson.

Said he’s tough as f***, ready to play from round one, does all the hard stuff, can win the footy but his kicking lets him down badly.

What do you think about his disposal?
Where do you think he’ll go, 2nd or 3rd round?

[SAINT-LEE]

Will this top 10 draft class be "super" & produce more than 1 or 2 star players?
Who are they? Who gets it right?


https://www.sportskeeda.com/afl/5-best- ... es-history


The AFL Draft, as we know it today, began in 1986. It was organized as part of the commission's objective of developing an even competition. This was a response to the League's projection of it being destroyed by the combination of high transfer fees, high salaries, and low attendance numbers.
Over time, the AFL introduced more means to allow players to move clubs while ensuring top clubs are not favored over smaller clubs. The Pre-season Draft, Rookie Draft, and Mid-season Draft were introduced later to serve other players because it was obvious that younger prodigies were favored in the National Draft over those seeking second chances.
Many average and forgotten players have been produced through the system and some years have been more successful than others. This article takes a look at the most successful draft classes since the inception of the system.
5 best AFL Draft classes in history


#5 1997
Adam Goodes
It is considered one of the most successful drafts ever with its top 11 picks reaching the 100-game milestone. It featured Brownlow medalists Simon Black and Adam Goodes who have five premierships between them after playing in seven grand finals between 2001 and 2012.
It also featured other stars like Hawthorn captain Richie Vandenberg, Nick Stevens, and three-time premiership players Matthew Scarlett and Brad Ottens. Some of these players featured on the All-Australian team for many years; Matthew Scarlett was selected six times, Goodes four times, Black three times, and Ottens once.


#4 2006
Joel Selwood poses for selfies with Cats fans during the 2024 AFL round-10 match between The Gold Coast SUNS and The Geelong Cats
The 2006 Draft was noted for its abundance of wealth and talent. The number one pick of the year was Bryce Gibbs, who joined Carlton. He was not nominated for the All-Australian team nor did he win a flag during his career. Among those drafted this year, Joel Selwood, Ben Reid, James Frawley, Jack Riewoldt, Shane Edwards, Josh Kennedy, Tom Hawkins, Bachar Houli, and Nick Smith won the flag and have been selected for the All-Australian team at least once.
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There were others who won premierships at least once but didn't feature in any All-Australian team selection; Nathan Brown, Shaun Grigg, Brent Renouff, Chris Dawes, Will Schofield, Tyson Goldsack, Sharrod Wellingham, Matt Suckling, Brent Macaffer and Tom Lonergan. Travis Boak, Todd Goldstein, and Robbie Gray made All-Australian at least once.


#3 2000
Nick Riewoldt #12 and captain of the Saints leads his team for the AFL Preliminary Final match between the St Kilda Saints and the Sydney Swans in 2005
St Kilda received the first pick of the draft after they finished dead last. They received one of the greatest players in their history, Nick Riewoldt. Unluckily, Riewoldt never won a flag. He did make the All-Australian team five times in his career. The Rising Star award winner was pick number 2 Justin Koschitzke whose injury-riddled career meant he never got to the level the award projected for him.
Alan Didak, Shaun Burgoyne, Daniel Kerr, Kane Cornes, and Ted Richards were the members of this class who were selected for the All-Australian team and won the flag at least once in their careers. Apart from Riewoldt, there were others who never picked the flag but were good enough for the All-Australian team selection such as Scott Thompson, Drew Petrie, and Adam McPhee.


#2 1999
Matthew Pavlich of the Dockers
The 1999 Draft produced some of the greatest forwards of the modern era. Fremantle's most decorated player and one of the most decorated in AFL's history Matthew Pavlich was a member of this class as pick number four. Pavlich played 353 games and scored 700 goals for the Dockers.
Jonathan Brown, Dean Cox, Corey Enright, Darren Glass, Paul Chapman, Stephen Milne, Ryan O'Keefe, Bob Murphy, and Joel Corey are some other notable names from this class who are greats in their own rights. They hold multiple premierships, Norm Smith selections, and All-Australian team selections between them.

#1 2001
Gary Ablett Jr.
This draft is known as the “Super Draft” for its abundance of superstars of the modern era. The first three picks of this class - Luke Hodge, Luke Ball, and Chris Judd- justified their selection as they won both the flag and were selected in the All-Australian team at least once in their career.
Jimmy Bartel, James Kelly, Steve Johnson, Campbell Brown, Sam Mitchell, Gary Ablett Jr, Dane Swan, Brian Lake, and Matthew Boyd also won the flag and were selected in the All-Australian team at least once. Judd, Bartel, Ablett, Swan, and Mitchell won the Brownlow. Johnson, Judd, Hodge, Bartel, and Lake have also won the Norm Smith medal. Luke Hodge did it twice - in 2008 and 2014.

[CURLY]

No Jagga Smith.

Big yes to Cody ANDERSON.

I asked a recruiter about Anderson.

Said he’s tough as f***, ready to play from round one, does all the hard stuff, can win the footy but his kicking lets him down badly.

What do you think about his disposal?
Where do you think he’ll go, 2nd or 3rd round?

He's an absolute animal at the footy. He's a Calyton Oliver clone just loves the contest. His kicking is ok without being great.

[TheGreatZacsby]

No Jagga Smith.

Big yes to Cody ANDERSON.

I asked a recruiter about Anderson.

Said he’s tough as f***, ready to play from round one, does all the hard stuff, can win the footy but his kicking lets him down badly.

What do you think about his disposal?
Where do you think he’ll go, 2nd or 3rd round?

Does he need to kick when he will be a centre clearance player?

[CURLY]

No Jagga Smith.

Big yes to Cody ANDERSON.

I asked a recruiter about Anderson.

Said he’s tough as f***, ready to play from round one, does all the hard stuff, can win the footy but his kicking lets him down badly.

What do you think about his disposal?
Where do you think he’ll go, 2nd or 3rd round?

Does he need to kick when he will be a centre clearance player?

He does of course and while his kicking isn't NWM it's still very good.

[ace]

#1 2001
Gary Ablett Jr.
This draft is known as the “Super Draft” for its abundance of superstars of the modern era. The first three picks of this class - Luke Hodge, Luke Ball, and Chris Judd- justified their selection as they won both the flag and were selected in the All-Australian team at least once in their career.
Jimmy Bartel, James Kelly, Steve Johnson, Campbell Brown, Sam Mitchell, Gary Ablett Jr, Dane Swan, Brian Lake, and Matthew Boyd also won the flag and were selected in the All-Australian team at least once. Judd, Bartel, Ablett, Swan, and Mitchell won the Brownlow. Johnson, Judd, Hodge, Bartel, and Lake have also won the Norm Smith medal. Luke Hodge did it twice - in 2008 and 2014.

Lets not forget both pick 13 Nick Dal Santo and pick 37 Leigh Montagna made All Australian.

And pick 5 Xavier Clarke made All Hamstring.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_AFL_draft

[Dave McNamara]

My prediction

1- Jagga Smith (Rich)
2- Finn O’Sullivan (Rich) trade pick 10
3- Levi Ashcroft (Bris) bid
4- Harvey Langford (WCE)
5- Sid Draper (Adelaide)
6- Harry Armstrong (Melb)
7- Sam Lalor (Richmond) trade GC for Rioli
8- Murphy Reid (StK)
9- Leo Lombard (GC) Bid
10- Josh Smillie (StK) Comp
11- Toby Travaglia (ESS)
12- Luke Trainor (North) trade
13- Bo Allen (North) trade
14- Taj Hotton (stk) trade
15- Xavier Lindsay (Richmond) Trade
16- Cooper Hynes (GWS)
17- Isaac Kako (ESS) bid
18- Jack Whitlock (GWS)
19- Alix Tauru (Geel)
20- Joe Berry (Frem)
21- Matt Whitlock (Syd)

We need mids!

And the way the comp' is going, mids need to be tall and strong. Power at the contest, plus, a marking danger when going forward. Two for one.

First pick should therefore go for Smillie. Can't believe this bloke is now widely touted as being avaiable to us! Was originally touted as the No 1 pick. The bloke is (currently) 194cm, and already powerfully built. We'd be getting a power mid who rests as a power forward.

Reid looks exceptionally skilled, but there's the size question. Still, I'd probably take him with our 2nd pick if he's still there.

Though if Langford was still around (highly unlikely), it'd also be tempting to nab him with our 1st pick, and hope Smillie is still there. A 'drifting' Lalor would also be tempting. However, that's all probably getting too cute. (Memories remain, of the horror of the last time we tried something like that. Hoping to get Ball, and, then also Judd. )

And I'd take your man Hynes over Hotton, Martin. Or Allen over Hotton. Again, the size and power thing.

Cody Anderson may well still be around for a later pick? If so, grab him. Would be another Saintas' draft steal if so.

And I also agree your with bypassing of Trainor. Undersized to be a key defender (which is a position we need), but also, pretty underwhelming 'highlights' reel, I thought.



I'm probably now being guilty of your infamous goldfish syndrome Martin, but, what is acquiring Pick 14 predicted to cost us?

[B.M]

Next year First Rounder!

Unlikely now

[Scollop]

Great read in The Age regarding Mick Turner

Couple of things caught the eye for me, as a St Kilda supporter. 1 - the number of former Saints...and 2 - the last couple of paragraphs that mentioned we might be looking to draft 25 year old Charlie McCartin

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/thi ... 5kgp7.html

[chook23]

Carlton after their man

The Eagles will go from holding pick three to securing pick 12, Baker and Carlton’s Matt Owies as well as some later picks as part of the three club deal.

[silverhalo]

I really would love for us to bring in Murphy Reid with one of those first rounders - seen a few videos of the boy and he just oozes footy smarts and his disposal is sublime. He's a bit on the lean side so will need to add some bulk but he is one intelligent footballer.

[Yorkeys]

West Coast are nuts giving up pick 3. Maybe they plan to finish even lower next year and catch up then.

[Sanctorum]

The great thing about this year's stellar draft is to remember that Darcy Wilson, who was selected by St Kilda at pick 18 last year, eventually turned out to be the second best first year player after Harley Reid, based on the 2024 Rising Star Award.

Reid was ineligible due to suspension, but Wilson came 4th, with the first three all being second year players.

Looking at all this year's prospects, I am hoping Josh Smillie ends up at Moorabbin but suspect Richmond will pounce on him early.

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/power- ... mber-2024/