Battle

[bobmurray]

Can't wait for the Free Agency period to come and go, then Battle will be irrelevant and we can all move on.

How can a failed forward be worth $900k per season, the AFL are being reamed by player managers.
Once multiple clubs get burnt by these expensive long term deals, maybe the some sensible balance will return.

[The_Dud]

Yes, I’m comparing them right now, not their histories. And it seems you agree with me, Steele has dropped off from his peak of a few years ago. I think many forget how good he was, a genuine elite mid who was a game breaker and was picked by many to win a Brownlow.

Whoa!! Hold on there ...I outlined that Steele may have come off where he was, but I never agreed they are level

You initially said they are now level. You rate them equally. I disagreed. I still disagree.

They're not rated equally by opposition clubs or our coaches (with votes for Steele in AFLCA being more than double that of Battle in 2024). There's already evidence for you...but you just conveniently ignore that to stick to your flawed opinion.

Josh Battle is not rated equally by those that matter. It'll be confirmed at The Trevor Barker Medal. I won't bring Brownlow votes into it because you'll claim the umpires only vote for midfielders.

I meant you agreed with me that Steele has dropped off.

How many coaches votes did Dunstan get the year Ratten dumped him?

[The_Dud]

Did Tom Stewart, McGovern or Sicily get votes

Battle - is not at the same level as Steele - this year or any other year.

SS player of the Year - as voted by us!
Steele 3rd - 40.5 votes
Battle 6th - 19.5 votes

Is that what we’re using as a measuring stick?

After a hot start the votes from round 7 were 20 for Steele and 15.5 for Battle, by a group I’m saying undervalues him, and just again shows Steele dropping off from a few years ago and as the season went along.

[B.M]

Just about every measuring stick comes up with the same conclusion

[Scollop]

the votes from round 7

That could be a suggestion you could put forward for the FootyWire website to allow extra filters.

Next time anyone wants to compare 2 players they could choose that period. I think it could work

[perfectionist]

Can't wait for the Free Agency period to come and go, then Battle will be irrelevant and we can all move on.

How can a failed forward be worth $900k per season, the AFL are being reamed by player managers.
Once multiple clubs get burnt by these expensive long term deals, maybe the some sensible balance will return.

How much is Dougal Howard getting, or for that matter, Jimmy Webster?

We will now have about half a premiership backline. Hawthorn will have a complete premiership backline with the addition of Battle.

[Scollop]

Can't wait for the Free Agency period to come and go, then Battle will be irrelevant and we can all move on.

How can a failed forward be worth $900k per season, the AFL are being reamed by player managers.
Once multiple clubs get burnt by these expensive long term deals, maybe the some sensible balance will return.

How much is Dougal Howard getting, or for that matter, Jimmy Webster?

We will now have about half a premiership backline. Hawthorn will have a complete premiership backline with the addition of Battle.

If the Swans can win a GF with:

Jared Crouch, Ben Matthews, Lewis Roberts-Thompson, Craig Bolton, Tadhg Kennelly and Leo Barry - 2005 Premiership team

And

Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards, Martin Mattner
Alex Johnson Heath Grundy Nick Smith - 2012 Premiership team

I think Wilkie, Howard, NWM, and Sinclair are better. They have the capabilities. We're not far off

Ari Shoenmaker to take Battle's spot and we also need a lock down defender with a good left foot to take Webster's spot.

Anything's possible as long as we have a gun midfield

[Dave McNamara]

How can a failed forward be worth $900k per season, the AFL are being reamed by player managers.

That's harsh Bob.

Firstly, 'failed' is far too strong a term, IMHO.

Secondly, in today's footballing market, I reckon that you would be very much "worth $900K per season".

[bobmurray]

How can a failed forward be worth $900k per season, the AFL are being reamed by player managers.

That's harsh Bob.

Firstly, 'failed' is far too strong a term, IMHO.

Secondly, in today's footballing market, I reckon that you would be very much "worth $900K per season".

Fair points,

[The Fireman]

I say boo him

[The_Dud]

Yes, I’m comparing them right now, not their histories. And it seems you agree with me, Steele has dropped off from his peak of a few years ago. I think many forget how good he was, a genuine elite mid who was a game breaker and was picked by many to win a Brownlow.

Whoa!! Hold on there ...I outlined that Steele may have come off where he was, but I never agreed they are level

You initially said they are now level. You rate them equally. I disagreed. I still disagree.

They're not rated equally by opposition clubs or our coaches (with votes for Steele in AFLCA being more than double that of Battle in 2024). There's already evidence for you...but you just conveniently ignore that to stick to your flawed opinion.

Josh Battle is not rated equally by those that matter. It'll be confirmed at The Trevor Barker Medal. I won't bring Brownlow votes into it because you'll claim the umpires only vote for midfielders.

Did Tom Stewart, McGovern or Sicily get votes

Battle - is not at the same level as Steele - this year or any other year.

SS player of the Year - as voted by us!
Steele 3rd - 40.5 votes
Battle 6th - 19.5 votes

Well well well...

[Scollop]

Yes, I’m comparing them right now, not their histories. And it seems you agree with me, Steele has dropped off from his peak of a few years ago. I think many forget how good he was, a genuine elite mid who was a game breaker and was picked by many to win a Brownlow.

Whoa!! Hold on there ...I outlined that Steele may have come off where he was, but I never agreed they are level

You initially said they are now level. You rate them equally. I disagreed. I still disagree.

They're not rated equally by opposition clubs or our coaches (with votes for Steele in AFLCA being more than double that of Battle in 2024). There's already evidence for you...but you just conveniently ignore that to stick to your flawed opinion.

Josh Battle is not rated equally by those that matter. It'll be confirmed at The Trevor Barker Medal. I won't bring Brownlow votes into it because you'll claim the umpires only vote for midfielders.

Did Tom Stewart, McGovern or Sicily get votes

Battle - is not at the same level as Steele - this year or any other year.

SS player of the Year - as voted by us!
Steele 3rd - 40.5 votes
Battle 6th - 19.5 votes

Well well well...

Well done

Battle didn't poll as well in other awards but at least Ross Lyon agrees with you

[B.M]

Surprised,

Battle had a good year, I didn’t think as good as Marshall and Nas.

[Templar]

Who?

[MC Gusto]

Does the compo get announced today?

[D.B.Cooper]

Does the compo get announced today?

Announcement today.

I was told last night by an AFL club official (not Saints) that we have been awarded #8.

Hope he is correct

[MC Gusto]

Thanks DB that would make my day!

[Saints58]

Does the compo get announced today?

Announcement today.

I was told last night by an AFL club official (not Saints) that we have been awarded #8.

Hope he is correct

Lets hope so If that is the case and this is a deep draft do we go to Richmond and offer one of the early picks for there 21-29 as they will get more picks anyway that would give us 7or 8,21,24,29,43 not bad.

[Yorkeys]

In the just posted Saints TV interview with President Bassett the Pres said Josh was seduced by Hawthorn and maintained he was staying right to the last minute.
Seduced is an interesting descriptor. Keeping mum on his leaving probably explains him not attending the B&F, would probably have made for serious awkwardness.

President is a far better interviewee than Jake an interviewer (seemed nervous/awestruck).

[diddley]

President is a far better interviewee than Jake an interviewer (seemed nervous/awestruck).

No need for the drive by comment on Jake.
I thought his interview was excellent. Asked a bunch of the right questions, and got answers I wanted to hear about. Having listened to plenty of his stuff, and met him, that is his natural cadence of talk.

[SaintPav]

Me thinks Josh would have stayed, but his young wife has him by the balls, like all good wives do.

[magnifisaint]

President is a far better interviewee than Jake an interviewer (seemed nervous/awestruck).

No need for the drive by comment on Jake.
I thought his interview was excellent. Asked a bunch of the right questions, and got answers I wanted to hear about. Having listened to plenty of his stuff, and met him, that is his natural cadence of talk.

I agree with Yorkeys. I couldn't watch it. Seemed too much like an awestruck supporter. The 5 minutes I watched didn't captivate me. I tried reading the transcript at the same time to get some insights but that didn't work. Good luck to the young guy. I prefer his YouTube updates on players.

[WellardSaint]

In the just posted Saints TV interview with President Bassett the Pres said Josh was seduced by Hawthorn and maintained he was staying right to the last minute.
Seduced is an interesting descriptor. Keeping mum on his leaving probably explains him not attending the B&F, would probably have made for serious awkwardness.

President is a far better interviewee than Jake an interviewer (seemed nervous/awestruck).

Your opinion on Jake is just an opinion.
NOT a fact.

in my opinion, he performed admirably

[Yorkeys]

President is a far better interviewee than Jake an interviewer (seemed nervous/awestruck).

No need for the drive by comment on Jake.
I thought his interview was excellent. Asked a bunch of the right questions, and got answers I wanted to hear about. Having listened to plenty of his stuff, and met him, that is his natural cadence of talk.

Fair enough.
My weak defence is that Jake often asks for feedback: he and Saints TV are otherwise excellent and much appreciated.
I just wondered if some of the cringeworthy stuff might make Mr Bassett think twice in the future. It was a coup getting him on and I am confident I couldn't do better. Mea culpa.

[SydneySainter]

I’ve only watch half the interview, but from what I’ve seen so far, I thought it was quite good.

Interesting comment from Bassett regarding the previous mindset of the club - that success is cyclical and as long as we don’t piss people off, our time will come.

A perspective that really seemed to resonate with the previous “cuddle culture” administration.