The Swans or the Lions ?

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Sydney or The Lions. who do you want to win. The outcome as far as i'm concerned will be one sided..

Poll ended at Sat 12 Oct 2024 9:09pm

The Lions
24
69%
The Swans
11
31%
 
Total votes: 35

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The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078274Post The Fireman »

thought i'd check the consensus..not who will win..who do you want to win.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078275Post skeptic »

Sydney’s endless concessions and free passes have riled me for an age.

At least Brisbane are there on merit


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078278Post Saint 58 »

skeptic wrote: Sun 22 Sep 2024 9:30pm Sydney’s endless concessions and free passes have riled me for an age.

At least Brisbane are there on merit
No difference between the two.
The Lions "academy" is also untouchable
They're in the GF & will get ANOTHER F/S gun (Ashcroft), for some BS draft picks
AND also they get another untouchable gun from their "academy" - Sam Marshall
Who does Marshall play for ?
A team in Queensland ??
No
He plays for Sandringham !!!

What the FXXX ????
Total FXXXING BS 😡😡😡😡


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078281Post B.M »

Concessions are overblown- they used their first round picks to select all academy players. I don’t think that is understood

Yes, the got exclusive access to them but they had to pay a price.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078283Post SinCitySainter »

Swans, best side all year.
Finished comfortably on top of the ladder so deserve it more than anyone.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078284Post desertsaint »

reckon sydney deserve it. best team all year. geared up fitness for finals weeks back and lost games and everyone dropped off them. not many teams have the comfort of ladder position to do it, but we've seen it before.
happy for either team though, and brisbane got a reamed a bit last year as the afl went all out on a pies flag. so good luck to them.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078285Post Jacks Back »

Obviously it will be the Swans. Lions played their grand final last week plus, as we usually (sometimes...lol) beat the eventual premier, then it has to be the Swans. I just hope it's close, as blowouts are boring.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078292Post King Max »

Darragh Joyce to replace McInerney, kick the winning goal and win the Norm Smith medal.


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Post: # 2078303Post Scollop »

King Max wrote: Sun 22 Sep 2024 11:29pm Darragh Joyce to replace McInerney, kick the winning goal and win the Norm Smith medal.
Abby Holmes interviews him after the final siren...

and no one understands a word of what he says


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078304Post Scollop »

Both teams deserve to win.

Swans have been the best team. You knew they were set for a big year after the first few rounds. Their young guns were a bit star struck in the 2022 Grand Final and the scoreline was a bit embarrassing for them. This could be their year for glory and redemption at the same time

Swans don't have too many older players apart from Rampe (34) and Parker and Lloyd (both 31). If Swans don't win it this year, I'm sure they'll be thereabouts in years to come.

Brisbane were unlucky in last year's Grand Final. That result could have gone either way. They've got an older group of players, who could possibly fall away in form next year. They have a fair bit of talent in their team to go with their grit and determination for another opportunity.

Shame about the Big O. Brisbane are hungry and if they don't have too many sore players, perhaps we might get a close game, but you can't ignore 3 tough weeks of footy with the last 2 being on the road. I think the fatigue factor will override their hunger for the premiership.

The Swans played both their finals at home. I think the Swans get it done.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078305Post spert »

We beat The Swans so they're no good, but Lions beat us, so Lions to win.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078310Post bigcarl »

Bears mauled us by 85 points at home and I think RTB said afterwards they are the best team in it. They had Carlton 0-60 near half time in the second semi-final.

They’ve loads of talent and if they turn up they are frighteningly good. If they don’t they’re beatable.

Swans probably have a better tactical coach and a better system for consistency. Plus there’s Heeney … along with some others.

Swans by 3 points. I hope it’s a great game


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Post: # 2078311Post CURLY »

B.M wrote: Sun 22 Sep 2024 10:00pm Concessions are overblown- they used their first round picks to select all academy players. I don’t think that is understood

Yes, the got exclusive access to them but they had to pay a price.
Sydney used pick 19 for Heeney who was rated 1 or 2 very similar to Mills.

Its a ridiculous leg up.


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Swans finished the last 3 H&A rounds with wins, won both finals plus a week off to reach GF.

Lions won only 1 of last 3 H&A games and had some very tough encounters from 5th spot, including 2 miraculous come-from-behind wins, to reach GF.

Based on that form Sydney players should be more rested and less sore than Brisbane to come out on top, but in a 2 horse race they're no certainty - I'm tipping Sydney by less than 10 points.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

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Who said Heeney was rated 1 or 2?

If so
Why wasn’t there an earlier bid on him?

We got a leg up in 2000-2001-2002
And either selected the wrong player or developed them poorly

That’s on us


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078317Post King Max »

B.M wrote: Mon 23 Sep 2024 12:47pm Who said Heeney was rated 1 or 2?

If so
Why wasn’t there an earlier bid on him?

We got a leg up in 2000-2001-2002
And either selected the wrong player or developed them poorly

That’s on us
The rules were different. There was no bidding.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078325Post saintbob »

Lions by 21pts


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078327Post spert »

Port's forward line didn't turn up against the Swans- their key forwards never got near it and their crumbers were no good. Brisbane can kick big scores, so I think that will do it for them.


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Re: The Swans or the Lions ?

Post: # 2078328Post 1971 »

About 20 years ago I had a work colleague who was a Brisbane supporter. He said to me one day that Riewoldt was a sook and that St Kilda was a club that would never win a premiership in his lifetime, because they were an inferior club. Perhaps he was right but I have never forgotten nor forgiven. Sydney please.


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1971 wrote: Mon 23 Sep 2024 3:40pm About 20 years ago I had a work colleague who was a Brisbane supporter. He said to me one day that Riewoldt was a sook and that St Kilda was a club that would never win a premiership in his lifetime, because they were an inferior club. Perhaps he was right but I have never forgotten nor forgiven. Sydney please.
Is he still alive?


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Regrettably. Oops didn't mean to type that.


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B.M wrote: Mon 23 Sep 2024 12:47pm Who said Heeney was rated 1 or 2?

If so
Why wasn’t there an earlier bid on him?

We got a leg up in 2000-2001-2002
And either selected the wrong player or developed them poorly

That’s on us
That was the rule at the time they had to use there first round pick.

Yes we got early pick s because we were last.
In 09 I’m sure we’d have loved Dustin Martin handed to us.


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Post: # 2078333Post TimeToShineFellas »

Sydney for mine......

Brisbane has the three most punchable forwards in the league in Hipwood, Daniher and Cameron


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Post: # 2078335Post The Fireman »

I’m surprised. Thought the lions would have romped it in


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B.M wrote: Mon 23 Sep 2024 12:47pm Who said Heeney was rated 1 or 2?

If so
Why wasn’t there an earlier bid on him?

We got a leg up in 2000-2001-2002
And either selected the wrong player or developed them poorly

That’s on us
Many at the time rated Heeney the best in the draft. I don't think early bidding existed then.


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