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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076303Post repta »

Saints were willing to pay $1.3 for Weitering. So the money should be there somewhere.


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076306Post WellardSaint »

Saints want to try to get a 1st round compo pick, according to SaintsTV podcast.

Depends on how much $$ Hawks offer him.

The deal will be done on Oct 4 when trade window opens...


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Post: # 2076307Post Killa »

It comes down to the ever changing Rules of the AFL, Rules designed to afford publicity for the AFL 24/7, 365 days a year and benefiting certain Clubs at the AFL table.

St Kilda's response will be to defeat Hawthorn whenever we play them.

And to trust that, with a more difficult draw they are shown as imposters.

They still exist under the spectre and influence of Kennett which affords them their position at the AFL table.

Noting that Hawthorn appear embroiled in Court proceedings for the reason they are.


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076311Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 3:54pm Also, Howard now as our number 2 defender is a scary thought!
Unsure why you keep posting this bulls***.

Howard plays on the best forward the majority of time.


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076313Post Sanctorum »

As much as we would have liked Josh Battle to sign a new long term contract to remain at Moorabbin, it's not the end of the world, not by a long shot.

He's been an integral part of St Kilda's back six, but physically Arie Schoenmaker is the same size as Battle, but a much younger version, and has already demonstrated that with more experience under his belt can become more than a capable replacement at CHB, starting in 2025.

I expect Arie will be really glad Josh has decided to leave because he will be able to focus fully on training for that role in the off-season!

As Ross Lyon pointed out last week, footballers are professionals and will always go where they believe is best for their ambitions and financial security, so love of the club, coaches and team mates are only secondary considerations.


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076317Post The_Dud »

CURLY wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:29pm
The_Dud wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 3:54pm Also, Howard now as our number 2 defender is a scary thought!
Unsure why you keep posting this bulls***.

Howard plays on the best forward the majority of time.
Howard was our third best defender, and now is our second best defender, and not because he's improved...


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Re: Battle

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A bit of a kick in the guts. I hope Hawthorn get turfed out of the finals in the 1st week.
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Oh well
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Post: # 2076321Post silverhalo »

Nine’s Tom Morris reported the Hawks’ offer accepted by Battle was less lucrative than the Saints’ bid which virtually rules out that Band 1 compo it seems.

So disappointing....


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076322Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:40pm
CURLY wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:29pm
The_Dud wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 3:54pm Also, Howard now as our number 2 defender is a scary thought!
Unsure why you keep posting this bulls***.

Howard plays on the best forward the majority of time.
Howard was our third best defender, and now is our second best defender, and not because he's improved...
Just not true you just make it up as you go.


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076323Post magnifisaint »

silverhalo wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:57pm Nine’s Tom Morris reported the Hawks’ offer accepted by Battle was less lucrative than the Saints’ bid which virtually rules out that Band 1 compo it seems.

So disappointing....
I find it hard to believe that he is going to the Dawks for less money. How does he secure his future doing that?


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silverhalo wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:57pm Nine’s Tom Morris reported the Hawks’ offer accepted by Battle was less lucrative than the Saints’ bid which virtually rules out that Band 1 compo it seems.

So disappointing....
The way you know Tom Morris is talking rubbish is when sound comes from his mouth. Got chip on his shoulder after RL called him out at the press conference.


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Post: # 2076327Post B.M »

Houston is not a replacement for Battle

He is a running back

Battle is a key back

They are not remotely similar

Caminiti will train with the backs in the pre season imo

King will replace Caminiti forward


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076329Post Otiman »

The one thing I've learned from the Hawthorn ethos is that one player is not bigger than the club.

This is no more true than now.

We made the decision with the best interests of the club and Josh made his decision with the best interests of himself.

Hopefully the AFL rules allow us suitable compensation, in line with McKay last year at least.


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Post: # 2076330Post saintkid »

Regardless of the offer, this is why we are a dumb club. Battle is a hard-bodied, strong defender, in his prime with no past serious injury history. They have targetted well and have a player that is likely to give several excellent years to them. He is a better player than Howard and they have made a wise decision, further improving a damn good list.

On the other hand, we paid a premium for Hill, who is not the type of player we desperately needed and absolutely stuffed up embarrassingly, without any common sense, on a cooked Hannebery.

Very, very disappointing. Wish it was Howard going but what 'smart' club would have wanted him?


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Post: # 2076331Post bergsone »

B.M wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 5:11pm Houston is not a replacement for Battle

He is a running back

Battle is a key back

They are not remotely similar

Caminiti will train with the backs in the pre season imo

King will replace Caminiti forward
It looks that way doesnt it.Caminiti will slot in ok with Wilke,Howard and the smaller backs,means we get a good draft pick for a mid


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older saint wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 5:05pm
silverhalo wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:57pm Nine’s Tom Morris reported the Hawks’ offer accepted by Battle was less lucrative than the Saints’ bid which virtually rules out that Band 1 compo it seems.

So disappointing....
The way you know Tom Morris is talking rubbish is when sound comes from his mouth. Got chip on his shoulder after RL called him out at the press conference.
The same bloke who weeks ago reported that Petracca wanted out? Waay before anyone else had cottoned on? He may be a knob, but he’s good at his job


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076335Post samuraisaint »

WellardSaint wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:09pm Saints want to try to get a 1st round compo pick, according to SaintsTV podcast.

Depends on how much $$ Hawks offer him.

The deal will be done on Oct 4 when trade window opens...
Not just that - age comes into it, length of contract Hawthorn give him, and his performances - i.e. Top 5 in the B&F.

I think we should be eligible for first round compo. a 25 year old key defender is worth a high draft pick. The club should fight if this isn't forthcoming.


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076336Post cwrcyn »

Battle has been very good for us in the past three seasons. Very hard to replace.

No doubt we'll get screwed over with the change in the rules around compensation. Funny how the rules change in the very years we are in line to benefit. It's almost as if the AFL is watching our club and waiting for our turn to come and then proceeds to bend us over with malicious intent.

End of first round looks likely, which gives us little to play with in relation to securing the best midfielders and in relation to any possible trades


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076337Post B.M »

Tom Morris is a gutter feeder

He also said Rowan Marshall wanted out… with zero source

Just made it up because he thought of it

Clown!!!


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076338Post bobmurray »

So now we need not only mids, mids and mids in the draft but also a Ruck prospect, a Key Defender and a Key Forward.
Good luck with that Dalrymple.

Bye Battle.


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Post: # 2076339Post SaintPav »

We will get screwed.

Predicted it months ago.


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Post: # 2076340Post saintkid »

SaintPav wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 5:57pm We will get screwed.

Predicted it months ago.
We've already been screwed by Battle leaving.


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076342Post SaintPav »

saintkid wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 5:59pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 5:57pm We will get screwed.

Predicted it months ago.
We've already been screwed by Battle leaving.
Royally screwed then


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076343Post The_Dud »

CURLY wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:59pm
The_Dud wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:40pm
CURLY wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:29pm
The_Dud wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 3:54pm Also, Howard now as our number 2 defender is a scary thought!
Unsure why you keep posting this bulls***.

Howard plays on the best forward the majority of time.
Howard was our third best defender, and now is our second best defender, and not because he's improved...
Just not true you just make it up as you go.
Yeah no you're right, Howard is better than Wilkie, everyone knows that...

Curly knows football! :lol:


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