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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076117Post SaintPav »

Aligns with the online rumours I’ve seen.

He apparently is keen to stay for the right deal.


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Post: # 2076245Post older saint »

D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 12:46pm
older saint wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 11:10am Sure it isn't money.
Simple StKilda offer $900,000 a season
Hawthorn then forced to match it
Triggers pick 8

Or like Danger did and with Gresham , negotiate with Hawthorn to get the structure required. Hawthorn then have the option in 2 years to change if required. Get AFL sign off in the back ground ( of course it happens).

Hawthorn baulk we keep him and with increases not going to hurt long term
Battle is an unrestricted free agent.
Understand what you are saying but compensation is based on offer and contract, to my understanding. Also it appears Battle isn't unhappy so likely to take best offer he can get


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He’ll stay for the right offer.


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Post: # 2076250Post B.M »

Right offer for who?!

Him or StK??

You do not pay overs just to keep a player, he should NOT be paid more than Marshall, Steele, Sinclair, Wilkie

They are proven stars

And I’d be keeping space open for long term deals for Nasiah, Phillipou, Wilson, Garcia

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Front-end the deal, surely (I hope) we're not currently paying 100% of the cap?!


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OMG


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SaintPav wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 12:26pmOMG
Has he gone?


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WellardSaint wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 12:30pm
SaintPav wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 12:26pmOMG
Has he gone?
Gone for lunch.


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Gone. Shattered what a big loss for the club. Hopefully we get a decent compo pick but I’m sure we will get shafted knowing our history.


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Hawthorn cutting our lunch again


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Did we up the offer, so we get a Top 10 pick for him or did we just roll over and get f..............................................


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Did we up the offer, so we get a Top 10 pick for him or did we just roll over and get f..............................................


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Time for Arie Schoenmaker to step up to the plate. And if he doesn't we have other capable options who could do that role


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That is shattering.

Maybe we make a play for Barrass now?


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Barrass is contracted.


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Re: Battle

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Anything less than a pick after our first and we've lost out bigtime.

Another L for our list management team.


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076292Post 1971 »

I understand that Battle wants to secure his future and look after his family. He could have done that at St Kilda - how much does a person need? Unless he is a complete fool (which I am not saying or implying), he still has many years of earning working life to look after his family after football. Sorry, I think we have nurtured this fellow from a schoolboy to now and just as he reaches some form of peak.......This is a bigger loss that one player. This is cohesion in our backline damaged in my opinion. Greater than the sum of their parts and all that stuff. I feel we have been "Coffielded".


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Post: # 2076293Post The_Dud »

Also, Howard now as our number 2 defender is a scary thought!


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Re: Battle

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saintbob wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 3:41pm Did we up the offer, so we get a Top 10 pick for him or did we just roll over and get f..............................................
Does not matter if we raised our offer

He has chosen hawthorn.....so gets what they offer


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076296Post older saint »

Lets hope the bean counters come up with a pick 8 compensation .

Options from here:

- Cama to CHB , retain Membrey
- Houston?
- adjust the way we defend until Schoemaker is ready defensively


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If Houston wants to play for the Saints, he is a more than adequate replacement.


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076299Post St Dave »

saintbob wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 3:41pm Did we up the offer, so we get a Top 10 pick for him or did we just roll over and get f..............................................
It was reported we upped the offer, but the Hawks didn't have to match or beat or anything. He is unrestricted so he could have gone to them for $1 a season of he was really desperate to get out and there would have been nothing we could have done about it. Hopefully they did though because it was also reported that their offer wasn't enough for after first pick compo (which was why we upped our offer).

Now we just wait and see what the secret compo calculation spits out for us.


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The_Dud wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 3:50pm Anything less than a pick after our first and we've lost out bigtime.

Another L for our list management team.
Another F for AFL Rules that have changed re free agency compo formula


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Re: Battle

Post: # 2076302Post Bruce G McAbee »

Free agency has taken the competition back to the 1980's with a handful of clubs benefiting from it at the expense of the rest.
So much for equalisation.


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