If Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.Scollop wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pmHe played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.
You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63
Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".
Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
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Re: Four delisted
Rubbish statement without anything to back it up.CURLY wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 9:24pmIf Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.Scollop wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pmHe played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.
You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63
Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".
Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
You're seeing Byrnes as someone who cannot improve based ONLY on his early years and your bs bias
Ryan's key stats are justification for his spot in the team. His metrics including disposal efficiency and score involvements and goal assists are better than one of our most highly paid players
In Byrnes last 7 games he has gained more disposals and been more productive than Brad Hill in Brad's last 7 games. Hill -111 possessions to Byrnes -121.
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D.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 11:36amVan Es was the player we selected with the pick received from GCS for Ben Long.st sandy wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 11:15am The delisting of Allison & Van Es to me indicates poor recruitment & or medical conditioning.
Allison drafted at mid 20's? & Van Es at pick 31.
As a club (recruitment, medical, development) we simply have to do more with these picks in this range.
Other than just recently (Owens, Windhager) our record of developing players in this range over the years has been quite ordinary
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Scollop wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 10:52pmRubbish statement without anything to back it up.CURLY wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 9:24pmIf Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.Scollop wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pmHe played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.
You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63
Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".
Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
You're seeing Byrnes as someone who cannot improve based ONLY on his early years and your bs bias
Ryan's key stats are justification for his spot in the team. His metrics including disposal efficiency and score involvements and goal assists are better than one of our most highly paid players
In Byrnes last 7 games he has gained more disposals and been more productive than Brad Hill in Brad's last 7 games. Hill -111 possessions to Byrnes -121.
Seriously your using possession comparisons between a player the opposition put work into stopping compared to Byrnes who they wouldn’t care.
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Seriously you're struggling. Next you'll be telling us Hill has been getting tagged latelyCURLY wrote: ↑Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:02amScollop wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 10:52pmRubbish statement without anything to back it up.CURLY wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 9:24pmIf Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.Scollop wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pmHe played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.
You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63
Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".
Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
You're seeing Byrnes as someone who cannot improve based ONLY on his early years and your bs bias
Ryan's key stats are justification for his spot in the team. His metrics including disposal efficiency and score involvements and goal assists are better than one of our most highly paid players
In Byrnes last 7 games he has gained more disposals and been more productive than Brad Hill in Brad's last 7 games. Hill -111 possessions to Byrnes -121.
Seriously your using possession comparisons between a player the opposition put work into stopping compared to Byrnes who they wouldn’t care.
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Re: Four delisted
Byrnes is Lyon's ideal footballer. 100% role player with 110% commitment. Hard at it. Will keep going however many ribs you break and on one leg if asked. Don't hold your breath to see him out of the 22.
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Re: Four delisted
Byrnes is one of the fittest guys at the club and is a gut runner. For Ross Lyon, that in itself is an asset to his game plan.
His foot skills are far better than many on here give him credit for and his recent games have been earned, not gifted because of the lack of availability of other players.
I've always seem something in him, just like I always saw something in Sinclair, who had a similar trajectory and output to Byrnes at the same age. Sinclair teased is with the odd good quarter here and there in his first 5 years, but then at the age of 24 blossomed into the player he is today.
Some guys burst into the scene while others chip away and through hard work get to level required.
His foot skills are far better than many on here give him credit for and his recent games have been earned, not gifted because of the lack of availability of other players.
I've always seem something in him, just like I always saw something in Sinclair, who had a similar trajectory and output to Byrnes at the same age. Sinclair teased is with the odd good quarter here and there in his first 5 years, but then at the age of 24 blossomed into the player he is today.
Some guys burst into the scene while others chip away and through hard work get to level required.
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Re: Four delisted
No mention of tags I said put work into. I doubt very much theres any thought into where Byrnes is positioned.Scollop wrote: ↑Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:16amSeriously you're struggling. Next you'll be telling us Hill has been getting tagged latelyCURLY wrote: ↑Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:02amScollop wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 10:52pmRubbish statement without anything to back it up.CURLY wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 9:24pmIf Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.Scollop wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pmHe played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.
You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63
Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".
Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
You're seeing Byrnes as someone who cannot improve based ONLY on his early years and your bs bias
Ryan's key stats are justification for his spot in the team. His metrics including disposal efficiency and score involvements and goal assists are better than one of our most highly paid players
In Byrnes last 7 games he has gained more disposals and been more productive than Brad Hill in Brad's last 7 games. Hill -111 possessions to Byrnes -121.
Seriously your using possession comparisons between a player the opposition put work into stopping compared to Byrnes who they wouldn’t care.
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Re: Four delisted
Hill was tagged vs Geelong
But yeah,
His last 7 weeks was average at best
Both he and Byrnes averaged under 20pg as Wingers - not enough! Best wingers in the game average 25
But yeah,
His last 7 weeks was average at best
Both he and Byrnes averaged under 20pg as Wingers - not enough! Best wingers in the game average 25
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Re: Four delisted
You are an idiot! Bonner was the one that got delisted!CURLY wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 7:49pmD.B.Cooper wrote: ↑Wed 28 Aug 2024 4:58pmGeez you jumped of the Bonner bandwagon pretty quickly Curly.
Back in May he was a key part of our future.
Note: you still never miss a chance to bag Byrnes!
Curly knows Football
Byrnes is just the same just average and hopefully he plays majority of his year in the VFL in 2025
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Re: Four delisted
Byrne's still young. Can't delist too many players. There is only a 4-5 draft picks (after top 25 it is a complete lottery) and player swaps are often a balance.
More than 8 player turnover is alot.
More than 8 player turnover is alot.
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That's 6 players off the list now and i doubt that will be all that go, i think there'll be a couple more.
How many defenders will The Saints pick in the 2024 draft ?
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How many can we realistically bring in though that would be realistic prospects.
Let’s say 4 draft
2 traded/recruited/FA or whatever… that’s decent. More seems a stretch
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Re: Four delisted
The last few years it's been at least 8 players, time will tell.
How many defenders will The Saints pick in the 2024 draft ?