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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076189Post CURLY »

Scollop wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 7:49pm
Byrnes is just the same just average and hopefully he plays majority of his year in the VFL in 2025
He played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.

You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63

Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".

Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
If Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076195Post Scollop »

CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 9:24pm
Scollop wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 7:49pm
Byrnes is just the same just average and hopefully he plays majority of his year in the VFL in 2025
He played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.

You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63

Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".

Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
If Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.
Rubbish statement without anything to back it up.

You're seeing Byrnes as someone who cannot improve based ONLY on his early years and your bs bias

Ryan's key stats are justification for his spot in the team. His metrics including disposal efficiency and score involvements and goal assists are better than one of our most highly paid players

In Byrnes last 7 games he has gained more disposals and been more productive than Brad Hill in Brad's last 7 games. Hill -111 possessions to Byrnes -121.


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076201Post Kent the Butler »

D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 11:36am
st sandy wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 11:15am The delisting of Allison & Van Es to me indicates poor recruitment & or medical conditioning.

Allison drafted at mid 20's? & Van Es at pick 31.

As a club (recruitment, medical, development) we simply have to do more with these picks in this range.

Other than just recently (Owens, Windhager) our record of developing players in this range over the years has been quite ordinary
Van Es was the player we selected with the pick received from GCS for Ben Long.


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Re: Four delisted

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Scollop wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 10:52pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 9:24pm
Scollop wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 7:49pm
Byrnes is just the same just average and hopefully he plays majority of his year in the VFL in 2025
He played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.

You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63

Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".

Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
If Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.
Rubbish statement without anything to back it up.

You're seeing Byrnes as someone who cannot improve based ONLY on his early years and your bs bias

Ryan's key stats are justification for his spot in the team. His metrics including disposal efficiency and score involvements and goal assists are better than one of our most highly paid players

In Byrnes last 7 games he has gained more disposals and been more productive than Brad Hill in Brad's last 7 games. Hill -111 possessions to Byrnes -121.

Seriously your using possession comparisons between a player the opposition put work into stopping compared to Byrnes who they wouldn’t care.


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076229Post Scollop »

CURLY wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:02am
Scollop wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 10:52pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 9:24pm
Scollop wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 7:49pm
Byrnes is just the same just average and hopefully he plays majority of his year in the VFL in 2025
He played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.

You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63

Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".

Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
If Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.
Rubbish statement without anything to back it up.

You're seeing Byrnes as someone who cannot improve based ONLY on his early years and your bs bias

Ryan's key stats are justification for his spot in the team. His metrics including disposal efficiency and score involvements and goal assists are better than one of our most highly paid players

In Byrnes last 7 games he has gained more disposals and been more productive than Brad Hill in Brad's last 7 games. Hill -111 possessions to Byrnes -121.

Seriously your using possession comparisons between a player the opposition put work into stopping compared to Byrnes who they wouldn’t care.
Seriously you're struggling. Next you'll be telling us Hill has been getting tagged lately


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076230Post freely »

Byrnes is Lyon's ideal footballer. 100% role player with 110% commitment. Hard at it. Will keep going however many ribs you break and on one leg if asked. Don't hold your breath to see him out of the 22.


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076239Post cwrcyn »

Byrnes is one of the fittest guys at the club and is a gut runner. For Ross Lyon, that in itself is an asset to his game plan.

His foot skills are far better than many on here give him credit for and his recent games have been earned, not gifted because of the lack of availability of other players.

I've always seem something in him, just like I always saw something in Sinclair, who had a similar trajectory and output to Byrnes at the same age. Sinclair teased is with the odd good quarter here and there in his first 5 years, but then at the age of 24 blossomed into the player he is today.

Some guys burst into the scene while others chip away and through hard work get to level required.


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Re: Four delisted

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Scollop wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:16am
CURLY wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:02am
Scollop wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 10:52pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 9:24pm
Scollop wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 8:42pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 7:49pm
Byrnes is just the same just average and hopefully he plays majority of his year in the VFL in 2025
He played a very good game for us against Carlton and has shown good signs of improvement.

You know it's possible for players to improve once they've played around 50 games. Some improve markedly between 50-80 and some even further after 80 games. Ronnie is on 63

Saying he 'hopefully' plays majority in the VFL totally ignores reality and is a sh*t comment to make, to try and say "I was right".

Your views on Bonner changed, so perhaps try and remain open to the possibility that Byrnes continues to perform to a good standard in the seniors
If Byrnes is playing regular seniors we haven’t improved.
Rubbish statement without anything to back it up.

You're seeing Byrnes as someone who cannot improve based ONLY on his early years and your bs bias

Ryan's key stats are justification for his spot in the team. His metrics including disposal efficiency and score involvements and goal assists are better than one of our most highly paid players

In Byrnes last 7 games he has gained more disposals and been more productive than Brad Hill in Brad's last 7 games. Hill -111 possessions to Byrnes -121.

Seriously your using possession comparisons between a player the opposition put work into stopping compared to Byrnes who they wouldn’t care.
Seriously you're struggling. Next you'll be telling us Hill has been getting tagged lately
No mention of tags I said put work into. I doubt very much theres any thought into where Byrnes is positioned.


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076258Post B.M »

Hill was tagged vs Geelong

But yeah,
His last 7 weeks was average at best

Both he and Byrnes averaged under 20pg as Wingers - not enough! Best wingers in the game average 25


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076259Post magnifisaint »

CURLY wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 7:49pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 28 Aug 2024 4:58pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 27 Aug 2024 7:26pm Campbell is so unlucky he’s a better ruckman than basically every bean pole kid that will be on a list next season that has so called potential.

Bonner simply just a walking Clanger

Van Es and Allison unlucky
Geez you jumped of the Bonner bandwagon pretty quickly Curly.

Back in May he was a key part of our future.

Note: you still never miss a chance to bag Byrnes!
CURLY wrote: Tue 07 May 2024 2:32pm Byrnes I agree is not good enough.

Bonner on the other hand is a key part going forward. His kick to Hayes to give him his first goal was elite.
Curly knows Football :lol: :lol: :lol:

Byrnes is just the same just average and hopefully he plays majority of his year in the VFL in 2025
You are an idiot! Bonner was the one that got delisted!


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076295Post repta »

Byrne's still young. Can't delist too many players. There is only a 4-5 draft picks (after top 25 it is a complete lottery) and player swaps are often a balance.
More than 8 player turnover is alot.


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076312Post bobmurray »

That's 6 players off the list now and i doubt that will be all that go, i think there'll be a couple more.


How many defenders will The Saints pick in the 2024 draft ? :lol:
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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076315Post skeptic »

bobmurray wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:30pm That's 6 players off the list now and i doubt that will be all that go, i think there'll be a couple more.
How many can we realistically bring in though that would be realistic prospects.

Let’s say 4 draft
2 traded/recruited/FA or whatever… that’s decent. More seems a stretch


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Re: Four delisted

Post: # 2076325Post bobmurray »

skeptic wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:38pm
bobmurray wrote: Thu 29 Aug 2024 4:30pm That's 6 players off the list now and i doubt that will be all that go, i think there'll be a couple more.
How many can we realistically bring in though that would be realistic prospects.

Let’s say 4 draft
2 traded/recruited/FA or whatever… that’s decent. More seems a stretch
The last few years it's been at least 8 players, time will tell.


How many defenders will The Saints pick in the 2024 draft ? :lol:
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