Umpiring is corrupt and paid for

[sks023]

And lol at the dud saying the Howard touched review was the umpires favouring us. That was literally the goal umpire calling a Sydney point a goal and not wanting to review it.

Uhhh when did I say they were favouring us?

There were 3 goal reviews, all correct decisions, the umpires just called it as they saw it, because believe it or not, they don’t have a dog in the fight!

It’s the clowns like this…

Clearly touched well done NWM

…who continue to embarrass themselves every week with their umpire obsession.

The fact that there are multiple umpiring sooking threads after every week, especially after our best win in a long time, is extremely sad and shows the victim mentality some go thru life with.

[King Max]

They award free kicks for out on the full. They also rule in favour of a free if the ball comes off the foot and goes out of bounds.

The boundary is their domain. He clearly saw the ball go out after it wasn't marked. …

But it was marked. The field umpire said it was marked.

Crossing the boundary had nothing to do with the mark. There’s four field umpires and I’ve got no problem if one of them overrules or if the boundary umpire says he was over the line when he marked it.

But in this case it’s the boundary umpire saying “that’s not a mark” and I don’t think that’s appropriate.

[King Max]

You don’t hear what the boundary umpire says but the field umpire says “So he juggled it out? Throw it in then”

This is demonstrably untrue. The ball was firmly in his grasp as he crossed the line.

Now we can all see the mark should not have been paid but it’s not the boundary umpires job and he certainly shouldn’t be exaggerating the situation.

[St Dave]

You don’t hear what the boundary umpire says but the field umpire says “So he juggled it out? Throw it in then”

This is demonstrably untrue. The ball was firmly in his grasp as he crossed the line.

Now we can all see the mark should not have been paid but it’s not the boundary umpires job and he certainly shouldn’t be exaggerating the situation.

At no point does the boundary ump mention the ball crossing the line, all he tells the field ump is that Arie didn't complete the mark because the ball hit the ground. When the field ump says "juggled out", he is referring to boundary ump saying the ball came out of Aries hands and hit the ground. Once the ball hits the ground it is obviously a throw in so the field ump tells him to throw it in.

Take St Kilda out of it and you (or the AFL) would never want a similar situation deciding a game, so having the boundary ump able to advise the field ump and allow the correct call to be made is an absolute good for the game. I wish they were allowed to assist with other calls like throws. Imagine if the boundary ump saw Webster get smacked and could advise the field umps that high contact occurred

[King Max]

I don’t hear the boundary umpire say anything. Only the field umpire is mic’d up.

I think the talent pool for umpires is spread far enough with four umpires making decisions and you’re suggesting we have 8 of them making decisions.

[The_Dud]

Surely we're not going to continuously whinge about umpires getting things wrong and then complain when they get it right and it doesn't suit us

C’mon Scol, don’t be so naive!

They don’t want correct/fair umpiring, they want umpiring heavily favouring us!

Every 50/50 or lineball call HAS to go our way otherwise it equals cheating.

The umpires used all the resources at their disposal to make a correct decision, and they’re whinging about it because it didn’t favour us!

It’s deranged.

[CURLY]

Surely we're not going to continuously whinge about umpires getting things wrong and then complain when they get it right and it doesn't suit us

C’mon Scol, don’t be so naive!

They don’t want correct/fair umpiring, they want umpiring heavily favouring us!

Every 50/50 or lineball call HAS to go our way otherwise it equals cheating.

The umpires used all the resources at their disposal to make a correct decision, and they’re whinging about it because it didn’t favour us!

It’s deranged.

I'd like them to not miss blatant frees like Heeney belting Webster while plucking a free against Membrey moments earlier.

[CURLY]

You don’t hear what the boundary umpire says but the field umpire says “So he juggled it out? Throw it in then”

This is demonstrably untrue. The ball was firmly in his grasp as he crossed the line.

Now we can all see the mark should not have been paid but it’s not the boundary umpires job and he certainly shouldn’t be exaggerating the situation.

Umpires love the drama and in fact train to basically lie to get the result they want.

Classic example in our senior game Saturday. An umpire with a long history of going over the top sends our best player off for what can only be described as a football act. The umpire then informs us he has been reported for striking. Both he and the opposition player meet the umpire after the game and both the player and the opponent state there was no strike the opponent was adamant there was no strike and all witnesses said there wasn't even a free kick.

Umpire I know what I saw and you can take 3 weeks or we go to the tribunal.

As all our games are filmed and reviewed the notification comes out that he has been cleared as the tape showed that after he kicked the ball he was bumped and that in fact he should have received a downfield.

Umpire still wants to go to tribunal and isn't happy. Agenda yes.

[amusingname]

Here's the thing though. The umpiring didn't decide the match. It hardly ever does

Only guys like CURLY try and turn every loss into an excuse to blame umpires.

There's no point wallowing in self pity and whinging over every incorrect decision.

We didn't need the umpires to win the game. We needed to play to kick goals. We were behind again and we played an attacking, exciting brand. That should be the standard. It's the reason Hawthorn has been so good recently.

Umpires made some horrendous errors today all when they had a clear choice.

What do you expect? Zero mistakes!!! That's fairyland fantasy land thinking

Who are your favourite St Kilda players? Do they ever make mistakes?

What about you? Are you perfect

Mistakes I accept blatant non calls like Heeney on Webster unacceptable

The free to Fox right before hard time unacceptable

Mistakes you accept? So you don't consistently call the umpires cheats and corrupt if they possibly make a mistake? I must have been reading all those posts from another Curly then!

[CURLY]

Here's the thing though. The umpiring didn't decide the match. It hardly ever does

Only guys like CURLY try and turn every loss into an excuse to blame umpires.

There's no point wallowing in self pity and whinging over every incorrect decision.

We didn't need the umpires to win the game. We needed to play to kick goals. We were behind again and we played an attacking, exciting brand. That should be the standard. It's the reason Hawthorn has been so good recently.

Umpires made some horrendous errors today all when they had a clear choice.

What do you expect? Zero mistakes!!! That's fairyland fantasy land thinking

Who are your favourite St Kilda players? Do they ever make mistakes?

What about you? Are you perfect

Mistakes I accept blatant non calls like Heeney on Webster unacceptable

The free to Fox right before hard time unacceptable

Mistakes you accept? So you don't consistently call the umpires cheats and corrupt if they possibly make a mistake? I must have been reading all those posts from another Curly then!

As I said a mistake is all good. But blatant cheating I will call out. No excuse other than an umpire not wanting to give a free against Heeney.

[The Fireman]

Curly your campaign on labelling umpires cheats is becoming Tiresome , it’s a delusion you can’t seem to shake off and causes many needless confrontations on here

Did the umps witness the incident at the time it occurred? If not how could they call a free ?

[CURLY]

Curly your campaign on labelling umpires cheats is becoming Tiresome , it’s a delusion you can’t seem to shake off and causes many needless confrontations on here

Did the umps witness the incident at the time it occurred? If not how could they call a free ?

What were they watching then?

[The Fireman]

Curly your campaign on labelling umpires cheats is becoming Tiresome , it’s a delusion you can’t seem to shake off and causes many needless confrontations on here

Did the umps witness the incident at the time it occurred? If not how could they call a free ?

What were they watching then?

The ball ?

[Yorkeys]

Here's the thing though. The umpiring didn't decide the match. It hardly ever does

Only guys like CURLY try and turn every loss into an excuse to blame umpires.

There's no point wallowing in self pity and whinging over every incorrect decision.

We didn't need the umpires to win the game. We needed to play to kick goals. We were behind again and we played an attacking, exciting brand. That should be the standard. It's the reason Hawthorn has been so good recently.

Back to basics.
If you are correct and umpiring never influences the outcome of a game why is there a need for umpires.
See the contradiction: once its agreed that a game needs umpires it has to be accepted their decisions have an influence on the outcome and to say otherwise is irrational.
To keep banging on that umpiring has an absolutely neutral impact is analogous to suggesting judges don't influence the outcome of court cases.

[CURLY]

Curly your campaign on labelling umpires cheats is becoming Tiresome , it’s a delusion you can’t seem to shake off and causes many needless confrontations on here

Did the umps witness the incident at the time it occurred? If not how could they call a free ?

What were they watching then?

The ball ?

The ball won't give away a free kick. The umpire saw the contact and chose not to pay it.

Same as the infringement's on Riewoldt in the 2009 GF the umpires made a decision to allow the infringements but then pay one to Ablett.

[The Fireman]

The umps saw the contact? Is that true?

[saynta]

Curly your campaign on labelling umpires cheats is becoming Tiresome , it’s a delusion you can’t seem to shake off and causes many needless confrontations on here

Did the umps witness the incident at the time it occurred? If not how could they call a free ?

You don't think that Curly might...might...just have a point?

[CURLY]

The umps saw the contact? Is that true?

How could they not seriously the only place they needed to be looking at the time other than the ball carrier

[amusingname]

Curly your campaign on labelling umpires cheats is becoming Tiresome , it’s a delusion you can’t seem to shake off and causes many needless confrontations on here

Did the umps witness the incident at the time it occurred? If not how could they call a free ?

You don't think that Curly might...might...just have a point?

So do you also believe that umpires are actually cheating? You and Curly believe that they are intentionally changing the outcomes of games for their own purposes?

[amusingname]

Here's the thing though. The umpiring didn't decide the match. It hardly ever does

Only guys like CURLY try and turn every loss into an excuse to blame umpires.

There's no point wallowing in self pity and whinging over every incorrect decision.

We didn't need the umpires to win the game. We needed to play to kick goals. We were behind again and we played an attacking, exciting brand. That should be the standard. It's the reason Hawthorn has been so good recently.

Umpires made some horrendous errors today all when they had a clear choice.

What do you expect? Zero mistakes!!! That's fairyland fantasy land thinking

Who are your favourite St Kilda players? Do they ever make mistakes?

What about you? Are you perfect

Mistakes I accept blatant non calls like Heeney on Webster unacceptable

The free to Fox right before hard time unacceptable

Mistakes you accept? So you don't consistently call the umpires cheats and corrupt if they possibly make a mistake? I must have been reading all those posts from another Curly then!

As I said a mistake is all good. But blatant cheating I will call out. No excuse other than an umpire not wanting to give a free against Heeney.

Ok, so when you post ad nauseum in the game day thread, you are only calling them cheats when you have decided it is impossible that they could also make a mistake? Good to know for the future threads, I presume the mods will take this into account as well when you are asked to stop spam posting about umpires

[CURLY]

Curly your campaign on labelling umpires cheats is becoming Tiresome , it’s a delusion you can’t seem to shake off and causes many needless confrontations on here

Did the umps witness the incident at the time it occurred? If not how could they call a free ?

You don't think that Curly might...might...just have a point?

So do you also believe that umpires are actually cheating? You and Curly believe that they are intentionally changing the outcomes of games for their own purposes?

They do what they think will get them a game when it counts. Upset a big name club and the media is all over it make piss poor calls against a small club nothing.

Look at the Heeney situation right now. Where was the carry on for Max King when he copped a week for far less than Heeney,

[amusingname]

Curly your campaign on labelling umpires cheats is becoming Tiresome , it’s a delusion you can’t seem to shake off and causes many needless confrontations on here

Did the umps witness the incident at the time it occurred? If not how could they call a free ?

You don't think that Curly might...might...just have a point?

So do you also believe that umpires are actually cheating? You and Curly believe that they are intentionally changing the outcomes of games for their own purposes?

They do what they think will get them a game when it counts. Upset a big name club and the media is all over it make piss poor calls against a small club nothing.

Look at the Heeney situation right now. Where was the carry on for Max King when he copped a week for far less than Heeney,

I guess the umpires from sunday will be dropped for not being able to sway the game in the swans favour enough to get the win, and the umpires from our Collingwood game are also blacklisted for big games?

[sks023]

The ump with the shaved head is atrocious

[CURLY]

Curly your campaign on labelling umpires cheats is becoming Tiresome , it’s a delusion you can’t seem to shake off and causes many needless confrontations on here

Did the umps witness the incident at the time it occurred? If not how could they call a free ?

You don't think that Curly might...might...just have a point?

So do you also believe that umpires are actually cheating? You and Curly believe that they are intentionally changing the outcomes of games for their own purposes?

They do what they think will get them a game when it counts. Upset a big name club and the media is all over it make piss poor calls against a small club nothing.

Look at the Heeney situation right now. Where was the carry on for Max King when he copped a week for far less than Heeney,

I guess the umpires from sunday will be dropped for not being able to sway the game in the swans favour enough to get the win, and the umpires from our Collingwood game are also blacklisted for big games?

Tried there best. I doubt the Swans will be complaining about things not going there way.

[terry smith rules]

You don’t hear what the boundary umpire says but the field umpire says “So he juggled it out? Throw it in then”

This is demonstrably untrue. The ball was firmly in his grasp as he crossed the line.

Now we can all see the mark should not have been paid but it’s not the boundary umpires job and he certainly shouldn’t be exaggerating the situation.

It is absolutely the boundary umpires job to make the call, same as when the goal umpire decides if it was marked before or after the line

Now the central umpire can start a discussion around what people saw but the boundary umpire gets the first call