The Difference

[Devilhead]

Give the ball back to the umpire

[CURLY]

I personally agree with Curly on the Marshall 50m. He took the mark, stopped and then was cannoned into the back late and put to ground.

That’s 50m every day of the week in every interpretation.

That would have been a goal from the square and possibly the difference

50 every day of the week, obviously wrong.

Webster kicking the ball out of bounds, also a blatant free kick not paid.

What about the soft free to Marshall for the goal, that gets ignored 99 times out of 100.
Imagine the crack pots Curly and Saynta bleating about the Marshall free if it went the other way?

Yep and if it happened against us The Dud would post it was stupid by our player.

At least it’s actually a rule.

The Port player that rushed the behind was as much a free as Websters

[D.B.Cooper]

I personally agree with Curly on the Marshall 50m. He took the mark, stopped and then was cannoned into the back late and put to ground.

That’s 50m every day of the week in every interpretation.

That would have been a goal from the square and possibly the difference

50 every day of the week, obviously wrong.

Webster kicking the ball out of bounds, also a blatant free kick not paid.

What about the soft free to Marshall for the goal, that gets ignored 99 times out of 100.
Imagine the crack pots Curly and Saynta bleating about the Marshall free if it went the other way?

Yep and if it happened against us The Dud would post it was stupid by our player.

At least it’s actually a rule.

The Port player that rushed the behind was as much a free as Websters

And there you have it Curly, at least you have finally admitted the umpires get them wrong both ways.

Now tell me, we had a 30/16 count against Collingwood this year and the sealer was kicked by Higgins while he was out of bounds in front of 3 umpires.

Why did the umpires BLATANTLY CHEAT for us that game?

Were they instructed by the AFL or did they take it upon themselves to blatantly cheat for us?

[The Fireman]

Come on Curly

[CURLY]

I personally agree with Curly on the Marshall 50m. He took the mark, stopped and then was cannoned into the back late and put to ground.

That’s 50m every day of the week in every interpretation.

That would have been a goal from the square and possibly the difference

50 every day of the week, obviously wrong.

Webster kicking the ball out of bounds, also a blatant free kick not paid.

What about the soft free to Marshall for the goal, that gets ignored 99 times out of 100.
Imagine the crack pots Curly and Saynta bleating about the Marshall free if it went the other way?

Yep and if it happened against us The Dud would post it was stupid by our player.

At least it’s actually a rule.

The Port player that rushed the behind was as much a free as Websters

And there you have it Curly, at least you have finally admitted the umpires get them wrong both ways.

Now tell me, we had a 30/16 count against Collingwood this year and the sealer was kicked by Higgins while he was out of bounds in front of 3 umpires.

Why did the umpires BLATANTLY CHEAT for us that game?

Were they instructed by the AFL or did they take it upon themselves to blatantly cheat for us?

So how do they miss the two most blatant calls for the game?

Mindset that’s how.

What was the comment about Collingwood by Buckley. Collingwood players know they can push the boundaries that’s why they win close games.

[Killa]

For the effort put in in the face of The Wharfies clearance and feed and run advantage the result was directly impacted by the decisions highlighted at the open to this thread - all of which were most obviously the fact.

The response of those present at the ground was testament - even acknowledging the sparse attendance.

Simply, St Kilda did not get the rub of the green and not by any length.

When the margin is what it was these decisions or non decisions are critical.

In regard the 5 metre kick, Hill immediately remonstrated either by pointing out the distance of the scrambled kick or that Hill had touched it off the boot, the gesticulation to the Umpire what it was and could have referred to either.

If you are watching on TV you do not see these things.

One statement I will put is that the constant opinion that Marshall can not play forward by a certain "character" on this forum, refuted by me has its answer today.

The difficulty of taking contested marks in the F50 was laid bare by King, noting King is going to ground in the contest just too easily and otherwise seems to lack confidence (so knee or shoulder?)

The positive today was the defensive structure with Wanganeen-Milera (but he needs goal kicking to add a dimension, aka Gram), Shoenmaker and Caminiti, so kids.

Add Howard and we will see because he will add experience and voice.

The other interesting observation is Ross, noting the stats of Phillipou today so pressing.

Thru these later rounds, the season can catch up with some of the kids who need another pre-season.

And, of course, Crouch is still missing.

Sinclair (hmmm!!!) started in defence, then interchanging with Clark

[D.B.Cooper]

I personally agree with Curly on the Marshall 50m. He took the mark, stopped and then was cannoned into the back late and put to ground.

That’s 50m every day of the week in every interpretation.

That would have been a goal from the square and possibly the difference

50 every day of the week, obviously wrong.

Webster kicking the ball out of bounds, also a blatant free kick not paid.

What about the soft free to Marshall for the goal, that gets ignored 99 times out of 100.
Imagine the crack pots Curly and Saynta bleating about the Marshall free if it went the other way?

Yep and if it happened against us The Dud would post it was stupid by our player.

At least it’s actually a rule.

The Port player that rushed the behind was as much a free as Websters

And there you have it Curly, at least you have finally admitted the umpires get them wrong both ways.

Now tell me, we had a 30/16 count against Collingwood this year and the sealer was kicked by Higgins while he was out of bounds in front of 3 umpires.

Why did the umpires BLATANTLY CHEAT for us that game?

Were they instructed by the AFL or did they take it upon themselves to blatantly cheat for us?

So how do they miss the two most blatant calls for the game?

Mindset that’s how.

What was the comment about Collingwood by Buckley. Collingwood players know they can push the boundaries that’s why they win close games.

Again you ignore the question Curly....

Why did the umpires BLATANTLY CHEAT for us that game?

[CURLY]

I personally agree with Curly on the Marshall 50m. He took the mark, stopped and then was cannoned into the back late and put to ground.

That’s 50m every day of the week in every interpretation.

That would have been a goal from the square and possibly the difference

50 every day of the week, obviously wrong.

Webster kicking the ball out of bounds, also a blatant free kick not paid.

What about the soft free to Marshall for the goal, that gets ignored 99 times out of 100.
Imagine the crack pots Curly and Saynta bleating about the Marshall free if it went the other way?

Yep and if it happened against us The Dud would post it was stupid by our player.

At least it’s actually a rule.

The Port player that rushed the behind was as much a free as Websters

And there you have it Curly, at least you have finally admitted the umpires get them wrong both ways.

Now tell me, we had a 30/16 count against Collingwood this year and the sealer was kicked by Higgins while he was out of bounds in front of 3 umpires.

Why did the umpires BLATANTLY CHEAT for us that game?

Were they instructed by the AFL or did they take it upon themselves to blatantly cheat for us?

So how do they miss the two most blatant calls for the game?

Mindset that’s how.

What was the comment about Collingwood by Buckley. Collingwood players know they can push the boundaries that’s why they win close games.

Again you ignore the question Curly....

Why did the umpires BLATANTLY CHEAT for us that game?

Why are suggesting they cheated?

Can’t remember Collingwood supporters stating that other than a missed out of bounds on an almost impossible angle. Hardly an umpire gifting us a goal

[Sainter_Dad]

Why are suggesting they cheated?

Can’t remember Collingwood supporters stating that other than a missed out of bounds on an almost impossible angle. Hardly an umpire gifting us a goal

They are extrapolating your opinion that the Umpires cheat every time the count goes against us and by using a flawed assumption state that if the free kick count goes in our favour that the Umpires must be cheating for us.

They are not considering your individual accusations of blatant errors - you call it cheating - I call it incompetence - but Potato / Tomato

As Collingwood lost the count - it must have been that the Umpires cheated FOR us - as we won.

[The Fireman]

Why are suggesting they cheated?

Can’t remember Collingwood supporters stating that other than a missed out of bounds on an almost impossible angle. Hardly an umpire gifting us a goal

They are extrapolating your opinion that the Umpires cheat every time the count goes against us and by using a flawed assumption state that if the free kick count goes in our favour that the Umpires must be cheating for us.

They are not considering your individual accusations of blatant errors - you call it cheating - I call it incompetence - but Potato / Tomato

As Collingwood lost the count - it must have been that the Umpires cheated FOR us - as we won.

LOL at Saint dad for trying to reason with curly

[Sainter_Dad]

Why are suggesting they cheated?

Can’t remember Collingwood supporters stating that other than a missed out of bounds on an almost impossible angle. Hardly an umpire gifting us a goal

They are extrapolating your opinion that the Umpires cheat every time the count goes against us and by using a flawed assumption state that if the free kick count goes in our favour that the Umpires must be cheating for us.

They are not considering your individual accusations of blatant errors - you call it cheating - I call it incompetence - but Potato / Tomato

As Collingwood lost the count - it must have been that the Umpires cheated FOR us - as we won.

LOL at Saint dad for trying to reason with curly

Just trying to make sense of this crazy mixed up world.

[Killa]

The free kick count in any game is what it is and irrelevant

Where the AFL has its problem is the inconsistency of umpiring including during a game

And I would put that the inconsistencies exist courtesy of the narrative of the AFL including in regard decisions which would have seen a different result in particular games

That those inconsistencies appear to favour certain higher profile Clubs and certain higher profile players appears to be the fact

Some Clubs and some players are more relevant than others across the competition

And THAT is the competition, unfortunately

No doubt, St Kilda does not have a high profile within the AFL and equally, none of its players have a high profile within the AFL

St Kilda get nothing based on reputation and name

And THAT is the problem St Kilda have

The Club’s President and those he presides over are in the process of correcting this and making St Kilda and its players relevant

[D.B.Cooper]

Why are suggesting they cheated?

Can’t remember Collingwood supporters stating that other than a missed out of bounds on an almost impossible angle. Hardly an umpire gifting us a goal

They are extrapolating your opinion that the Umpires cheat every time the count goes against us and by using a flawed assumption state that if the free kick count goes in our favour that the Umpires must be cheating for us.

They are not considering your individual accusations of blatant errors - you call it cheating - I call it incompetence - but Potato / Tomato

As Collingwood lost the count - it must have been that the Umpires cheated FOR us - as we won.

Sainter Dad being the fun police, by rationalizing the post.

I did chuckle at Curly’s response that he can’t recall the Collingwood fans stating the umpires cheated as if this is the type of comment rational fans make

News flash Curly, other than you (and maybe saynta) few other Saints fans think the Umpires cheat either.

As aptly detailed by SD, if we had a 30/16 negative count and the sealer kicked from out of bounds it would have been ‘blatant umpire cheating’ sanctioned by the AFL.

When it goes the other way there’s nothing to see here.

Curly

[CURLY]

Why are suggesting they cheated?

Can’t remember Collingwood supporters stating that other than a missed out of bounds on an almost impossible angle. Hardly an umpire gifting us a goal

They are extrapolating your opinion that the Umpires cheat every time the count goes against us and by using a flawed assumption state that if the free kick count goes in our favour that the Umpires must be cheating for us.

They are not considering your individual accusations of blatant errors - you call it cheating - I call it incompetence - but Potato / Tomato

As Collingwood lost the count - it must have been that the Umpires cheated FOR us - as we won.

Sainter Dad being the fun police, by rationalizing the post.

I did chuckle at Curly’s response that he can’t recall the Collingwood fans stating the umpires cheated as if this is the type of comment rational fans make

News flash Curly, other than you (and maybe saynta) few other Saints fans think the Umpires cheat either.

As aptly detailed by SD, if we had a 30/16 negative count and the sealer kicked from out of bounds it would have been ‘blatant umpire cheating’ sanctioned by the AFL.

When it goes the other way there’s nothing to see here.

Curly

As I am well aware you hatched from an egg more than a couple of weeks ago I know you saw the North v Collingwood game.

A game decided by a horrendous umpiring decision and one that was indefensible. Not one expert or commentator in any form said the umpires were right.
North should have won.

AFL comes out said they were ok with it.
Why and how?

It suited them Collingwood win so nothing to see.

[D.B.Cooper]

Why are suggesting they cheated?

Can’t remember Collingwood supporters stating that other than a missed out of bounds on an almost impossible angle. Hardly an umpire gifting us a goal

They are extrapolating your opinion that the Umpires cheat every time the count goes against us and by using a flawed assumption state that if the free kick count goes in our favour that the Umpires must be cheating for us.

They are not considering your individual accusations of blatant errors - you call it cheating - I call it incompetence - but Potato / Tomato

As Collingwood lost the count - it must have been that the Umpires cheated FOR us - as we won.

Sainter Dad being the fun police, by rationalizing the post.

I did chuckle at Curly’s response that he can’t recall the Collingwood fans stating the umpires cheated as if this is the type of comment rational fans make

News flash Curly, other than you (and maybe saynta) few other Saints fans think the Umpires cheat either.

As aptly detailed by SD, if we had a 30/16 negative count and the sealer kicked from out of bounds it would have been ‘blatant umpire cheating’ sanctioned by the AFL.

When it goes the other way there’s nothing to see here.

Curly

As I am well aware you hatched from an egg more than a couple of weeks ago I know you saw the North v Collingwood game.

A game decided by a horrendous umpiring decision and one that was indefensible. Not one expert or commentator in any form said the umpires were right.
North should have won.

AFL comes out said they were ok with it.
Why and how?

It suited them Collingwood win so nothing to see.

Irrelevant comment again Curly.

Just admit the facts, if the free kick count was 30/16 against us and the deciding goal was kicked from out of bounds you'd have called it blatant cheating by the umpires, however when it goes our way there's nothing to see here and you babble like an 80YO dementia patient

[CURLY]

Why are suggesting they cheated?

Can’t remember Collingwood supporters stating that other than a missed out of bounds on an almost impossible angle. Hardly an umpire gifting us a goal

They are extrapolating your opinion that the Umpires cheat every time the count goes against us and by using a flawed assumption state that if the free kick count goes in our favour that the Umpires must be cheating for us.

They are not considering your individual accusations of blatant errors - you call it cheating - I call it incompetence - but Potato / Tomato

As Collingwood lost the count - it must have been that the Umpires cheated FOR us - as we won.

Sainter Dad being the fun police, by rationalizing the post.

I did chuckle at Curly’s response that he can’t recall the Collingwood fans stating the umpires cheated as if this is the type of comment rational fans make

News flash Curly, other than you (and maybe saynta) few other Saints fans think the Umpires cheat either.

As aptly detailed by SD, if we had a 30/16 negative count and the sealer kicked from out of bounds it would have been ‘blatant umpire cheating’ sanctioned by the AFL.

When it goes the other way there’s nothing to see here.

Curly

As I am well aware you hatched from an egg more than a couple of weeks ago I know you saw the North v Collingwood game.

A game decided by a horrendous umpiring decision and one that was indefensible. Not one expert or commentator in any form said the umpires were right.
North should have won.

AFL comes out said they were ok with it.
Why and how?

It suited them Collingwood win so nothing to see.

Irrelevant comment again Curly.

Just admit the facts, if the free kick count was 30/16 against us and the deciding goal was kicked from out of bounds you'd have called it blatant cheating by the umpires, however when it goes our way there's nothing to see here and you babble like an 80YO dementia patient

Goals from frees missed 50’s and as I’ve posted when the umpires set the tone for frees are more important. Today I prime example HTB against Battle a minute later Alir caught hands free ball up.

Collingwood game as I’ve said a missed out of bounds and a freakish snap is hardly biased.

Missing frees like Butlers and Marshall’s non 50 is cheating.

[King Max]

What about the soft free to Marshall for the goal, that gets ignored 99 times out of 100.
Imagine the crack pots Curly and Saynta bleating about the Marshall free if it went the other way?

The reason that free never gets paid is because almost nobody is stupid enough to do that.
People claiming it happens all the time but nobody ever comes up with an example.

[The_Dud]

Just imagine, one week complaining that Windy standing 5m over the mark is not a 50 and should be a warning, then the next week saying a player getting up off the ground handing the ball to a teammate is a 100% legit free and goal and nothing to see here

Absolute clown show!

[King Max]

Just imagine, one week complaining that Windy standing 5m over the mark is not a 50 and should be a warning, then the next week saying a player getting up off the ground handing the ball to a teammate is a 100% legit free and goal and nothing to see here

Absolute clown show!

No doubt you have numerous examples of that free to Marshall not being paid.

[The_Dud]

Just imagine, one week complaining that Windy standing 5m over the mark is not a 50 and should be a warning, then the next week saying a player getting up off the ground handing the ball to a teammate is a 100% legit free and goal and nothing to see here

Absolute clown show!

No doubt you have numerous examples of that free to Marshall not being paid.

I think you’re missing the point!

[King Max]

Explain your point and I’ll let you know if I missed it.

[CURLY]

Explain your point and I’ll let you know if I missed it.

His point is this. StKilda player gets no prior gets tackled holding the ball.

The Dud ~ So stupid the players so slow no awareness

Opposition player takes a bounces gets tackled swung 3 times then goes to ground umpire ball up.

The Dud - umpires can’t see everything

[CURLY]

Just imagine, one week complaining that Windy standing 5m over the mark is not a 50 and should be a warning, then the next week saying a player getting up off the ground handing the ball to a teammate is a 100% legit free and goal and nothing to see here

Absolute clown show!

Yet today they allowed a bloke to cannon into a blokes back after taking a mark no 50.

Steele taking a mark on the wing the umpire then tells the Port player come back not 1 but 3 meters no 50

[SAINT-LEE]

I personally agree with Curly on the Marshall 50m. He took the mark, stopped and then was cannoned into the back late and put to ground.

That’s 50m every day of the week in every interpretation.

That would have been a goal from the square and possibly the difference

50 every day of the week, obviously wrong.

Webster kicking the ball out of bounds, also a blatant free kick not paid.

What about the soft free to Marshall for the goal, that gets ignored 99 times out of 100.
Imagine the crack pots Curly and Saynta bleating about the Marshall free if it went the other way?

Yep and if it happened against us The Dud would post it was stupid by our player.

At least it’s actually a rule.

The Port player that rushed the behind was as much a free as Websters

And there you have it Curly, at least you have finally admitted the umpires get them wrong both ways.

Now tell me, we had a 30/16 count against Collingwood this year and the sealer was kicked by Higgins while he was out of bounds in front of 3 umpires.

Why did the umpires BLATANTLY CHEAT for us that game?

Were they instructed by the AFL or did they take it upon themselves to blatantly cheat for us?

Yes, umps cheated...everyone thinks Pues are CüNTs

[D.B.Cooper]

Just imagine, one week complaining that Windy standing 5m over the mark is not a 50 and should be a warning, then the next week saying a player getting up off the ground handing the ball to a teammate is a 100% legit free and goal and nothing to see here

Absolute clown show!

Yet today they allowed a bloke to cannon into a blokes back after taking a mark no 50.

Steele taking a mark on the wing the umpire then tells the Port player come back not 1 but 3 meters no 50

The best part of Curly’s mind boggling stupidity, is when a poor decision happens against us it’s blatant cheating, yet when we are the beneficiary like against Collingwood there’s nothing to see here.