Denver Grainger Barrass

[B.M]

If Hawthorn steal Battle and we fk off Dougal

195cm key defender/forward

23yo

Not in favour at Hawthorn

[SaintDippa]

Another superstar junior, floundering at AFL level. I'm a pass.

[cwrcyn]

The guy is a complete knob and not very good. Looks like Paddlepop Lion and plays like him. Can't even cut it as a key defender in the VFL

[SaintPav]

Hawthorn aren’t the only club into Battle.

[Killa]

The questions being why would we not retain Battle and why would we not retain Howard

Yes, Battle is undersized as a KPP defender but has the competitive streak to significantly address this and with Howard is a cornerstone of a defence which basically performs to requirements

None of Wilkie, Battle nor Howard lower their colors often - noting they can be caught out by opposition delivery as can any defender from any side

As a collective they compliment each other which is also a strength

The conversation should be retaining Battle and Howard - not losing them

That Battle’s Contract is where it is at sees him testing the market which is fair enough but I would imagine the St Kilda agenda is to retain him as a required player and that he is well aware of this fact

Unlike other sides we do not have a reliance on players over the age of 30 with multiple hundreds of games experience - we are invested in youth with 27 the most recent to showcase his potential

In regard that cohort Battle, Howard and Wilkie are leaders at St Kilda

[B.M]

He’s only 22 yeah?

Probably a bust, probably a bargain?!

[D.B.Cooper]

B.M - you seem interested in us taking Barrass, Lobb and Phillips.

Please tell me you are not part of SOS’ recruiting team!

Add these 3 to Bonner & Dow, no thanks.

If Barass was any good they’d probably not be as interested in Battle.

[TheGreatZacsby]

B.M - you seem interested in us taking Barrass, Lobb and Phillips.

Please tell me you are not part of SOS’ recruiting team!

Add these 3 to Bonner & Dow, no thanks.

If Barass was any good they’d probably not be as interested in Battle.

I agree all the above players are spuds. But I wouldn’t put Dow in a group with any of these players.

Dow is much younger and he’s shown glimmers. I reckon he will come good.

[wally]

I think both Lobb & Parker (maybe might not get back in the Swans) should be looked at

[The_Dud]

Why not just keep Battle, a known gun coming into his prime?

I'm happy to move Howard on to save coin tho.

[B.M]

Dow is 2 years older than Barrass and 3 years older than Phillips

I am just looking at ways to churn over and improve the list, and find Mason wood style bargains

We cannot draft 8 players

We also need to add depth to the list

When looking for bargains, look for players not getting an opportunity

[D.B.Cooper]

Dow is 2 years older than Barrass and 3 years older than Phillips

I am just looking at ways to churn over and improve the list, and find Mason wood style bargains

We cannot draft 8 players

We also need to add depth to the list

When looking for bargains, look for players not getting an opportunity

Yep, I agree there can be bargains in players not getting an opportunity at their current club.

I think the issue is how many cast offs who are not up to it do we take.

I think Dow is the most overrated Saints player in recent memory. Somehow on securing him many on the forum have him as a clearance player who explodes away from the stoppage.

He’s a C grade mid with questionable foot skills, I hope he becomes a VG player for us, but I don’t see it.

For every Mason Wood is probably multiple guys who never become regular performers.

[Devilhead]

Why not just keep Battle, a known gun coming into his prime?

I'm happy to move Howard on to save coin tho.

Because Battle is UFA and we can't match to keep like you can with RFA players

If Battle wants to leave .... he leaves

[magnifisaint]

It's not Denver Grainger EmBarrass.
Rocky Mountain High.

[George27]

It's not Denver Grainger EmBarrass.
Rocky Mountain High.

I’m Sorry , but he is from WA , and surely will want to go Back Home Again

[Yorkeys]

Parents that give kids names that make filling in Arrival cards difficult create a burden for their elaboratly named offspring. Often it can mean they can't play so well with the weight of letters on their back.