Changes at end of the year

[B.M]

He’s only 20yo and 198cm and skinny as a rake

Should he be playing against AFL size key fwds/defenders?!

[Scollop]

Angus McClennan - gone
Ben Paton - 50/50
Sharman - keep
Butler - keep
Keelor - gone
Hayes - gone
Van Es - 50/50
Webster - gone
Battle - we want but he will go
Stocker - 50/50
Wood - keep
Allison - gone
Heath - keep
Hotton - gone
Byrnes - 50/50
Ross - gone
Membrey - gone
Campbell - 50/50
Jones - gone

Keeler gone? f*** off.

Why should he be retained?
Based on?
Potential
2023 performance
2024 performance
Skills
Attitude
Talent

I said he has all the skills, talent, even attitude but yet cant seem to bring it bear consistently...and I dont mean overall...even in quarters, he will play good, then awful...no seemingly different opponent pressure, lack of opportunity...he just fades. Big man syndrome? Or underdeveloped endurance or gets tired of trying? Hell, I dont know. It almost seems like a playground outcome, we are smashing it, he has a good go, we are suffering & need him to stand up...struggles.

That's my main concern after watching him in 9 games over 2 seasons.

I think we will keep him but my gut says cut him loose because he's all potential & no return.

What did you think of Hayden McLean when he was 20 years of age at Sandringham?

Would you swap Keeler for Hayden McLean?

Of course SAINTS would... but Sydney aren't giving him up are they!?

My point is, we should show some patience with young talls. Put in the work over a 4 year period and show some faith in Keeler and hopefully he rewards the club in the long run.

Also...if we give him a 4 year contract at unders, it could work out to be a great investment and it could help our salary cap in 3-4 years time

[Otiman]

Turnover of 9 players will guarantee the list going backwards.

You want to turn over 3 or 4 for the main draft, 1 for rookie draft, 1 for preseason selection.

So a total of 5 or 6.

Campbell, Jones, Hotton, Allison, Byrnes, Hayes.

Ross could go in that list instead of Byrnes or Hayes but I think he has leadership to offer our young midfielders coming through.

[bobmurray]

Turnover of 9 players will guarantee the list going backwards.

You want to turn over 3 or 4 for the main draft, 1 for rookie draft, 1 for preseason selection.

So a total of 5 or 6.

Campbell, Jones, Hotton, Allison, Byrnes, Hayes.

Ross could go in that list instead of Byrnes or Hayes but I think he has leadership to offer our young midfielders coming through.

I think there has been more than 6 list changes for quite a few years in a row, i used to have those stats but i've binned them.

[SAINT-LEE]

Angus McClennan - gone
Ben Paton - 50/50
Sharman - keep
Butler - keep
Keelor - gone
Hayes - gone
Van Es - 50/50
Webster - gone
Battle - we want but he will go
Stocker - 50/50
Wood - keep
Allison - gone
Heath - keep
Hotton - gone
Byrnes - 50/50
Ross - gone
Membrey - gone
Campbell - 50/50
Jones - gone

Keeler gone? f*** off.

Why should he be retained?
Based on?
Potential
2023 performance
2024 performance
Skills
Attitude
Talent

I said he has all the skills, talent, even attitude but yet cant seem to bring it bear consistently...and I dont mean overall...even in quarters, he will play good, then awful...no seemingly different opponent pressure, lack of opportunity...he just fades. Big man syndrome? Or underdeveloped endurance or gets tired of trying? Hell, I dont know. It almost seems like a playground outcome, we are smashing it, he has a good go, we are suffering & need him to stand up...struggles.

That's my main concern after watching him in 9 games over 2 seasons.

I think we will keep him but my gut says cut him loose because he's all potential & no return.

What did you think of Hayden McLean when he was 20 years of age at Sandringham?

Would you swap Keeler for Hayden McLean?

Of course SAINTS would... but Sydney aren't giving him up are they!?

My point is, we should show some patience with young talls. Put in the work over a 4 year period and show some faith in Keeler and hopefully he rewards the club in the long run.

Also...if we give him a 4 year contract at unders, it could work out to be a great investment and it could help our salary cap in 3-4 years time

A long term low investment contract might help us. Keeler has the goods but can't yet get the delivery right. Maybe he comes good? If so, itd be awesome.

[D.B.Cooper]

Turnover of 9 players will guarantee the list going backwards.

You want to turn over 3 or 4 for the main draft, 1 for rookie draft, 1 for preseason selection.

So a total of 5 or 6.

Campbell, Jones, Hotton, Allison, Byrnes, Hayes.

Ross could go in that list instead of Byrnes or Hayes but I think he has leadership to offer our young midfielders coming through.

I think there has been more than 6 list changes for quite a few years in a row, i used to have those stats but i've binned them.

From memory since 2019 the highest turn over has been 9 and the lowest 7 per season.

I’d expect at least 7 based on averages.