Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
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Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
The code is about to expand to 19 teams.
There isn’t enough AFL quality talent to even fill 18 teams.
Since GWS and GCS entered the comp, we have failed to build a competitive lineup worthy of challenging or even being a consistent finals performer.
While the AFL won’t admit it, the code can’t sustain 10 teams in Victoria.
Heritage is great, but at what point are we prepared to admit that we have failed to adapt to modern structure of the code?
There isn’t enough AFL quality talent to even fill 18 teams.
Since GWS and GCS entered the comp, we have failed to build a competitive lineup worthy of challenging or even being a consistent finals performer.
While the AFL won’t admit it, the code can’t sustain 10 teams in Victoria.
Heritage is great, but at what point are we prepared to admit that we have failed to adapt to modern structure of the code?
Bad management is bad management
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Always thought we should have put our hands up to be the tassie club.
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Is this thread a troll?
Merge or relocate, no longer the St Kilda Football Club and I'd be out and so would many others.
Brisbane have got nothing to do with Fitzroy and Sydney have got nothing to do with South Melbourne.
Merge or relocate, no longer the St Kilda Football Club and I'd be out and so would many others.
Brisbane have got nothing to do with Fitzroy and Sydney have got nothing to do with South Melbourne.
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Predictable responses.
Putting aside the emotions and the argument of heritage, what structure have we implemented to better ensure future success since our last great era ended in 2011?
Relocating back to Moorabbin and participating in themed matches.
Three rebuilds later and we still don’t draft and develop A-grade talent and we still don’t attract top end talent via FA.
We continue to prove that we are mismanaged and unviable operation.
Putting aside the emotions and the argument of heritage, what structure have we implemented to better ensure future success since our last great era ended in 2011?
Relocating back to Moorabbin and participating in themed matches.
Three rebuilds later and we still don’t draft and develop A-grade talent and we still don’t attract top end talent via FA.
We continue to prove that we are mismanaged and unviable operation.
Bad management is bad management
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
I would think that you should keep your shitty Sydney comments in the equally shitty Harbour city.
The brions played off for the cup last year and if it wasn't for a cheating maggot and his laughable 50 metre penalty , we may well have won last night.
The brions played off for the cup last year and if it wasn't for a cheating maggot and his laughable 50 metre penalty , we may well have won last night.
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Your last sentence is demonstrably, ludicrously wrong, however, it it were correct how would relocating or merging fix things?SydneySainter wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 1:15pm Predictable responses.
Putting aside the emotions and the argument of heritage, what structure have we implemented to better ensure future success since our last great era ended in 2011?
Relocating back to Moorabbin and participating in themed matches.
Three rebuilds later and we still don’t draft and develop A-grade talent and we still don’t attract top end talent via FA.
We continue to prove that we are mismanaged and unviable operation.
(Noting of course you are not a supporter and only post negatives to get fools like me to bite. But this latest bag of excrement throw seems bizarre even for your level of dislike of our Club).
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Grow up. Are we incapable of debating this at a constructive and adult level?
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
i can debate reasonable subjects but not the s*** that you throw up. You are the one that needs to grow up or piss off back to your own teams forum.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 1:28pmGrow up. Are we incapable of debating this at a constructive and adult level?
Bit of advice. Stay in your own effing backyard.
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
TBH, It's not a debatable topic here...It's akin to going on a physics forum and putting up the topic of the Earth being flat and asking to debate that.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 1:28pm
Grow up. Are we incapable of debating this at a constructive and adult level?
It is a ridiculous post and not warranted here.
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Hear, hear.Life Long Saint wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 2:23pmTBH, It's not a debatable topic here...It's akin to going on a physics forum and putting up the topic of the Earth being flat and asking to debate that.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 1:28pm
Grow up. Are we incapable of debating this at a constructive and adult level?
It is a ridiculous post and not warranted here.
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
The OP is a troll
Have a look through his previous stuff
Have a look through his previous stuff
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Ridiculous and not warranted...AgreedLife Long Saint wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 2:23pmTBH, It's not a debatable topic here...It's akin to going on a physics forum and putting up the topic of the Earth being flat and asking to debate that.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 1:28pm
Grow up. Are we incapable of debating this at a constructive and adult level?
It is a ridiculous post and not warranted here.
But ...I think the better analogy would have been to say the physicist walks into a Flat Earth Convention and tries to convince them the Earth is round
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Nah.
That analogy assumes the premise that the OP is correct. The OP is not correct. Relocations or mergers have not been on the AFL agenda since the days of Wayne Jackson.
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Not when the OP is blatant trolling bulls***SydneySainter wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 1:28pmGrow up. Are we incapable of debating this at a constructive and adult level?
The future's so bright I've got to wear shades...
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
So because I’m from Sydney, I’m not allowed to barrack for a Victorian team, or allowed to have an opinion in that I think the administration rinses and repeats bad management and that I don’t think a merger or relocation shouldn’t at least be discussed.saynta wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 2:18pmi can debate reasonable subjects but not the s*** that you throw up. You are the one that needs to grow up or piss off back to your own teams forum.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 1:28pmGrow up. Are we incapable of debating this at a constructive and adult level?
Bit of advice. Stay in your own effing backyard.
Again, my question was simply “would it be such a bad thing?”
You’re the ones incapable of saying “no. s*** idea. Move on.” Your response is the typical, emotional, knee-jerk reaction of people who are so consumed with their own ideology, they simply can’t debate like adults.
Like I said, grow up .
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
No merger or relocation. The Saints would lose their identity.
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Living in Sydney can do strange things to one’s brain
Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
I agree the standard has slipped dramatically over the years - confirmed by players coming from Under 18 level in the SANFL and the WAFL playing at AFL level in their first seasons without playing at Senior SANFL or WAFL level prior to being drafted.
The whole competition has been polluted by the AFL seeking constant headlines for relevance - even over summer.
The AFL needs to go back to basics.
Your Draft position is dictated by where you finish in the prior season and ALL you can do is trade your Picks.
So no Father/Son, no Academy Picks which means there in nothing to compromise the Draft apart from trading a Pick for an established player you seek.
This includes no "Free Agency" nonsense.
All these issues are about publicity.
The whole competition has been polluted by the AFL seeking constant headlines for relevance - even over summer.
The AFL needs to go back to basics.
Your Draft position is dictated by where you finish in the prior season and ALL you can do is trade your Picks.
So no Father/Son, no Academy Picks which means there in nothing to compromise the Draft apart from trading a Pick for an established player you seek.
This includes no "Free Agency" nonsense.
All these issues are about publicity.
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
And like I said, keep to your own shitty state.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 5:19pmSo because I’m from Sydney, I’m not allowed to barrack for a Victorian team, or allowed to have an opinion in that I think the administration rinses and repeats bad management and that I don’t think a merger or relocation shouldn’t at least be discussed.saynta wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 2:18pmi can debate reasonable subjects but not the s*** that you throw up. You are the one that needs to grow up or piss off back to your own teams forum.SydneySainter wrote: ↑Sat 15 Jun 2024 1:28pmGrow up. Are we incapable of debating this at a constructive and adult level?
Bit of advice. Stay in your own effing backyard.
Again, my question was simply “would it be such a bad thing?”
You’re the ones incapable of saying “no. s*** idea. Move on.” Your response is the typical, emotional, knee-jerk reaction of people who are so consumed with their own ideology, they simply can’t debate like adults.
Like I said, grow up .
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Re: Would a merger or relocation be such a bad thing
Admins posting this surely has to be a bannable offence??