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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Devilhead wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:47pm
Yorkeys wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:39pm
Teflon wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:32pm Very very happy with that effort
Ari showed plenty
Wilson v good
Owens best game for a while
Marshall huge
Kudos to Ross Lyon and all the spuds whingeing we can’t score …it’s game plan…blah blah blah can eat a large one.
And….still top 5 pick!!
7 goal final quarter ….
Nice 👍
Clean out some duds
Seb Ross
Bonner
Cordy
Jones
Trade a few and get some elite kids in we’ll be ok
Just happy given all the circumstances.
Still think Bonner is a keeper.
Would have been very very happy if when we had them on the ropes and were coming we just could have landed the ko.
Coaching from our side was brilliant.
Need a statue of Rowan at Moorabbin. What a champ/gladiator.
Bonner doesn't have a defensive bone in his body ... would much rather now persist with Arie for the rest of the year
Well, we will see.
Riley seems fair dinkum to me. But maybe you are right.


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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CURLY wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:59pm
amusingname wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:54pm My issue with the constant posting about umpires is that there is no recognition that they might make a mistake as humans. It is always ‘blatant cheating’. I don’t agree with every decision made, but I recognize that we also get calls in our favor that may be wrong. Curly seems incapable of either admitting this or just taking a decision in stride.
Most calls I don’t mind but the frees they chose to ignore one way but pin us I hate.

So for the umpire sympathetic posters I ask you .

Windy needed to know exactly where the mark was so it’s 50 no warning.

The free to StKilda where the umpire told the Brisbsne player to return the ball but he handballed it to Butler who the free kick wasn’t for.
Umpire didn’t award 50 why?
This I agree with but seriously curly most of the time you need to get help


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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We lost the game in the first quarter

Chasing tail after that


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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CURLY wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:59pm
amusingname wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:54pm My issue with the constant posting about umpires is that there is no recognition that they might make a mistake as humans. It is always ‘blatant cheating’. I don’t agree with every decision made, but I recognize that we also get calls in our favor that may be wrong. Curly seems incapable of either admitting this or just taking a decision in stride.
Most calls I don’t mind but the frees they chose to ignore one way but pin us I hate.

So for the umpire sympathetic posters I ask you .

Windy needed to know exactly where the mark was so it’s 50 no warning.

The free to StKilda where the umpire told the Brisbsne player to return the ball but he handballed it to Butler who the free kick wasn’t for.
Umpire didn’t award 50 why?
The windy one was a tough call and probably should have been a warning, the other one Butler was calling for the ball so the ump made a judgement that the lions player wasn’t aware of who had the free.

Those are decisions made by humans, so can be inconsistent in some way. It’s not “blatant cheating” as you claim.


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Kids
Schoenmaker- who played ok
Caminiti - ordinary imo
Wilson was ok - couple of times he took the wrong option

Who were the other kids?

We had a pretty seasoned team - wouldn’t you say


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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amusingname wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:05am
CURLY wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:59pm
amusingname wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:54pm My issue with the constant posting about umpires is that there is no recognition that they might make a mistake as humans. It is always ‘blatant cheating’. I don’t agree with every decision made, but I recognize that we also get calls in our favor that may be wrong. Curly seems incapable of either admitting this or just taking a decision in stride.
Most calls I don’t mind but the frees they chose to ignore one way but pin us I hate.

So for the umpire sympathetic posters I ask you .

Windy needed to know exactly where the mark was so it’s 50 no warning.

The free to StKilda where the umpire told the Brisbsne player to return the ball but he handballed it to Butler who the free kick wasn’t for.
Umpire didn’t award 50 why?
The windy one was a tough call and probably should have been a warning, the other one Butler was calling for the ball so the ump made a judgement that the lions player wasn’t aware of who had the free.

Those are decisions made by humans, so can be inconsistent in some way. It’s not “blatant cheating” as you claim.

So he gave Brisbane a goal because he believed Windy should have known where the mark was. He then decided the Brisbane player couldn’t have known who a clear free was for.

Odd


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Windy and Owens are only 20 years of age


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Yes

We lost the game in the first q

Held on for 2 quarters

Cam him strong


Can’t be 5 down at qtr time and give up 45 uncontested marks in a quarter- that smack of no pressure


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Any news on Henry? We can't afford to lose him long term again.


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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B.M wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:07am Kids
Schoenmaker- who played ok
Caminiti - ordinary imo
Wilson was ok - couple of times he took the wrong option

Who were the other kids?

We had a pretty seasoned team - wouldn’t you say
Owens Windy Henry Dow Clark King are hardly 200 game vets


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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CURLY wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:08am
amusingname wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:05am
CURLY wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:59pm
amusingname wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:54pm My issue with the constant posting about umpires is that there is no recognition that they might make a mistake as humans. It is always ‘blatant cheating’. I don’t agree with every decision made, but I recognize that we also get calls in our favor that may be wrong. Curly seems incapable of either admitting this or just taking a decision in stride.
Most calls I don’t mind but the frees they chose to ignore one way but pin us I hate.

So for the umpire sympathetic posters I ask you .

Windy needed to know exactly where the mark was so it’s 50 no warning.

The free to StKilda where the umpire told the Brisbsne player to return the ball but he handballed it to Butler who the free kick wasn’t for.
Umpire didn’t award 50 why?
The windy one was a tough call and probably should have been a warning, the other one Butler was calling for the ball so the ump made a judgement that the lions player wasn’t aware of who had the free.

Those are decisions made by humans, so can be inconsistent in some way. It’s not “blatant cheating” as you claim.

So he gave Brisbane a goal because he believed Windy should have known where the mark was. He then decided the Brisbane player couldn’t have known who a clear free was for.

Odd
Why don't you do a spreadsheet and rate each and every free kick. ALL OF THE FREES.

You could also rate ALL OF THE DUBIOUS NON FREES.

That's the only way you can come out and claim the bs that you do every fkn week

Do the work CURLY. No fkn excuses


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Scollop wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:05am We lost the game in the first quarter

Chasing tail after that
RTB was said as much in his presser about the 1st quarter

We let them get goal side of us around our half foward- center line and they kicked it over the top .... they ran onto it and we got exposed

Happened several times


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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CURLY wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:10am
B.M wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:07am Kids
Schoenmaker- who played ok
Caminiti - ordinary imo
Wilson was ok - couple of times he took the wrong option

Who were the other kids?

We had a pretty seasoned team - wouldn’t you say
Owens Windy Henry Dow Clark King are hardly 200 game vets
Not a seasoned team bm


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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They are young

Owens has played 44 games now
Windhager has played 49

3rd year players

Players have won B&Fs in their 3rd year


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Two things I noticed tonight one
Ross has a comb over and the other I can’t believe how much Brian Taylor gives me the s***s
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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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B.M wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:09am Yes

We lost the game in the first q

Held on for 2 quarters

Cam him strong


Can’t be 5 down at qtr time and give up 45 uncontested marks in a quarter- that smack of no pressure
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Butler gets reported for tripping on the field ... Brions player does not get reported for tripping ... incidents were both similar with free kicks paid .... any explanation on this?


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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B.M wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:14am They are young

Owens has played 44 games now
Windhager has played 49

3rd year players

Players have won B&Fs in their 3rd year
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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Not possible without a Quantum computer.
Too many variables. 4 umpires, three parts of a ground. Constant asymmetric play. Etc.
But just common sense and observation lets a reasonable person deduce the standard of umpiring is poor because at least 10% of decisions in any game are wrong or blatantly inconsistent or reasonably contestable. In any sporting contest that's a material problem.98% correct or equity should be minimum acceptable.


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Devilhead wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:12am
Scollop wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:05am We lost the game in the first quarter

Chasing tail after that
RTB was said as much in his presser about the 1st quarter

We let them get goal side of us around our half foward- center line and they kicked it over the top .... they ran onto it and we got exposed

Happened several times
Ross was in good form at the presser

When they asked him about the high score from his players he said he'd get some candles and a get a cake and go yippeeee 😂🤣🤣

He did slso mention that we didn't have a low score on purpose last week...he mentioned that they were frustrated with missed opportunities BUT ALSO...

He said he did it for us. No crap!! He mentioned "Saints fans" ... I reckon there's a bit in that...

Not that I believe they did it for the supporters ... because of course supporters like an attacking game. I reckon his players would have enjoyed playing that way too
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We had more inside 50s last week than we did this week ... so go figure


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Devilhead wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:29am We had more inside 50s last week than we did this week ... so go figure
Who ever was complaining about last week, doesn't understand footy. Our method of entry and our efficiency was the issue, not the fact that we didn't get entries inside 50.
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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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saintkid wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:34pm
bergsone wrote: Fri 14 Jun 2024 11:25pm Iam finding it really hard watching AFL atm ,the way it is umpired the rules and the way they change from week to week.IMO there are too many umpires,and too many differing calls
More than ever now, umpires are influencing match outcomes and that's a sad indictment of what this game and competition has become.
Yep
It’s gotten to a point it’s blatant
To call that 50 when it’s often not paid in a game so close at that exact time shows either complete lack of feel for the contest OR corruption
Utterly disgraceful
How many bad centre backs bounces too?? A few they should’ve but didn’t bring back too


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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Scollop wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:28am
Devilhead wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:12am
Scollop wrote: Sat 15 Jun 2024 12:05am We lost the game in the first quarter

Chasing tail after that
RTB was said as much in his presser about the 1st quarter

We let them get goal side of us around our half foward- center line and they kicked it over the top .... they ran onto it and we got exposed

Happened several times
Ross was in good form at the presser

When they asked him about the high score from his players he said he'd get some candles and a get a cake and go yippeeee 😂🤣🤣

He did slso mention that we didn't have a low score on purpose last week...he mentioned that they were frustrated with missed opportunities BUT ALSO...

He said he did it for us. No crap!! He mentioned "Saints fans" ... I reckon there's a bit in that...

Not that I believe they did it for the supporters ... because of course supporters like an attacking game. I reckon his players would have enjoyed playing that way too
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There are a couple on here that will be refused membership


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Re: Match Thread Brisbane V St Kilda

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I think we saw good signs tonight

Hopefully we have Cooper Sharman coming into the side and he plays permanent forward

Caminiti plays permanently in defence


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