Match Thread Saints v Suns

[cwrcyn]

Let's not forget the multiple free kicks King should have got throughout the game. He gets held off the ball all the time.

What about Matt Rowell's obvious holding the ball 25m out from our goal?

What about the knee to Hunter Clark's head late in the game?

What about the 25m kick to Mason Wood in the 2nd quarter (which would have seen him have a gettable shot on goal) that was called not 15


Honestly, for our own supporters to complain about a free kick to Max King......"oh, we only won because of that...bla bla"

[King Max]

Not one commentator/expert I saw on Fox or channel 7 after the game tonight thought the free to King was there. Jack Riewoldt even saying “absolutely not”.

But I guess those 7-8 ex players are all clueless, biased flogs with agendas against St Kilda!

Swings and roundabouts

Every commentator on SEN said it was there.

[SaintJohn1956]

Let's not forget the multiple free kicks King should have got throughout the game. He gets held off the ball all the time.

What about Matt Rowell's obvious holding the ball 25m out from our goal?

What about the knee to Hunter Clark's head late in the game?

What about the 25m kick to Mason Wood in the 2nd quarter (which would have seen him have a gettable shot on goal) that was called not 15


Honestly, for our own supporters to complain about a free kick to Max King......"oh, we only won because of that...bla bla"

Exactly!

[samuraisaint]

For St Kilda supporters to complain when we finally get the rub of the green is a bit disingenuous.
A goal from Mason Wood was disallowed by a dubious free last night too.

The Suns got lucky last week, and this week they were on the other end. They didn't deserve to win anyway; we were the better side on the night.

[The Fireman]

Woke up this morning feeling happy and refreshed. How’s all the whingeing and moaning going fellas?

[perfectionist]

...

Ben Long was really good. One of their best.

He was on Webster. Long knocked the ball clear to Touk Miller for his goal.

[The_Dud]

Let's not forget the multiple free kicks King should have got throughout the game. He gets held off the ball all the time.

What about Matt Rowell's obvious holding the ball 25m out from our goal?

What about the knee to Hunter Clark's head late in the game?

What about the 25m kick to Mason Wood in the 2nd quarter (which would have seen him have a gettable shot on goal) that was called not 15


Honestly, for our own supporters to complain about a free kick to Max King......"oh, we only won because of that...bla bla"

What about Hill being tackled 360 and brought to ground - play on

Clark elbowing someone in the face with a fend off - play on

Butler doing his best to qualify for Paris 2024…

This game can go on and on…

THE POINT IS that anyone complaining we got a bad run with the umps or they were actively cheating against us are 100% delusional.

Some went against us, some went for us, that’s football, swings and roundabouts, stop crying everytime a free kick is paid

[The_Dud]

Watching the replay.... which is it? Are we are filled with low footy IQ players who instinctively long high bomb rather than a 20m dart to teammate 35 out all alone? Is it a team rule to ignore a free player in favour of a deep entry that the opposition know is our M.O? I'm up to 14 the number of burns. Is it that watching on TV doesn't reflect the difficulty on ground to see what looks like the obvious easy option? Higgins 10 min Q2 marks 50 out, plays on and 45 out hooks a point. Caminetti is alone, must be 15m in the clear 20m right in front, torched. Surely the option is the chip knowing the % is set shot in front. Surely. We blame Ross for the low scoring, I'd argue we get the entries but every week is same old and most are not executed to advantage. Ross' fault or Harvey/Goddard who are to blame for strategy and team rules?

To me it’s clear our forwards get burnt by terrible entry more often than not.

[SaintPav]

So this is all about whinging.

Riight.

[seano1]

Watching the replay.... which is it? Are we are filled with low footy IQ players who instinctively long high bomb rather than a 20m dart to teammate 35 out all alone? Is it a team rule to ignore a free player in favour of a deep entry that the opposition know is our M.O? I'm up to 14 the number of burns. Is it that watching on TV doesn't reflect the difficulty on ground to see what looks like the obvious easy option? Higgins 10 min Q2 marks 50 out, plays on and 45 out hooks a point. Caminetti is alone, must be 15m in the clear 20m right in front, torched. Surely the option is the chip knowing the % is set shot in front. Surely. We blame Ross for the low scoring, I'd argue we get the entries but every week is same old and most are not executed to advantage. Ross' fault or Harvey/Goddard who are to blame for strategy and team rules?

Absolutely spot on , being same thing for ages ….mids even wait for our forwards to be manned up ….but last night they did seem to spread more than other games instead of standing next to each other chatting about how many times they will twirl the ball when having a shot

[The G Train Legacy]

King wasn’t leading (or even trying to lead) he was jostling to get over the back.

If he just turned and did a hit up lead he would’ve had an easy uncontested mark and shot at goal

That play fully encapsulates his issues

And one other play, the one where he gave away a clear push in the back free. Instead of just launching at the ball, he focused on his opponent.

He needs to understand

The less he wrestles and more he jumps the better

If King was jostling to get over the back, when there was a 40 metre corridor in front of him and Brad Hill had the ball in hand forward of the centre. Then he ought to be dropped. Looked to me that King was trying to lead and was been impeded by McAndrew.

[B.M]

He was trying to get behind him

[B.M]

Every man and his dog who don’t support stk and Saints supporters with 2 eyes know it wasn’t a free kick

[asiu]

i just poked myelf in both eyes
... 'n it was good

a mix of Saintism , Catholicism , Atheism 'n Saintsationalism

what about AFL House ('n their) Umpires bias towards getting the Suns into their first final campaign

[maverick]

Every man and his dog who don’t support stk and Saints supporters with 2 eyes know it wasn’t a free kick

And the same for the swallow goal - what’s your point

[King Max]

He was trying to get behind him

He was trying to move and being held. Clear free kick.

[Devilhead]

Yep was being impeded/held ... even the picture they have put up on news websites shows Andrew's arm is across and around King

A jumper pull isn't the only way you can hold someone off the ball

[Sainter_Dad]

Yep was being impeded/held ... even the picture they have put up on news websites shows Andrew's arm is across and around King

A jumper pull isn't the only way you can hold someone off the ball

Watch Max's first goal - being held well off the ball - it was happening all night - hold 5+ metres away from the ball

[Vortex]

King wasn’t leading (or even trying to lead) he was jostling to get over the back.

If he just turned and did a hit up lead he would’ve had an easy uncontested mark and shot at goal

That play fully encapsulates his issues

And one other play, the one where he gave away a clear push in the back free. Instead of just launching at the ball, he focused on his opponent.

He needs to understand

The less he wrestles and more he jumps the better

I'm worried about King, he seems devoid of basic forward craft which is evident in his seeming unwillingness to lead and/or compete aerially. He also is defensively week numerous times last night he didn't make an acceptable effort to apply a defensive act...chase and tackle, tackle, attack a ball in dispute if it was below his hips.

[saynta]

Let's not forget the multiple free kicks King should have got throughout the game. He gets held off the ball all the time.

What about Matt Rowell's obvious holding the ball 25m out from our goal?

What about the knee to Hunter Clark's head late in the game?

What about the 25m kick to Mason Wood in the 2nd quarter (which would have seen him have a gettable shot on goal) that was called not 15


Honestly, for our own supporters to complain about a free kick to Max King......"oh, we only won because of that...bla bla"

Clark, or Hill?

[Teflon]

Yep was being impeded/held ... even the picture they have put up on news websites shows Andrew's arm is across and around King

A jumper pull isn't the only way you can hold someone off the ball

Watch Max's first goal - being held well off the ball - it was happening all night - hold 5+ metres away from the ball

At the ground (the footy replay /angle DOES NOT show it properly) the free was absolutely there - Mac had arms at one stage entirely around Kings waste stopping his run. It was at end I was sitting so was right in front of me.
Like Kings first shot at goal - he somehow marked the ball while being mauled that was a free or mark take your pick
If it was Curnow free kick we wouldn’t even be having this conversation
Frees were there but they are just a Hardwick whinge - we should’ve put this fake AFL club to the sword long before that we had the game on our terms 90% of the night

[SaintPav]

Ken oath.

[Killa]

The Umpire clearly explained what the free kick was for

So did the Umpire make up a rule to benefit St Kilda and gift them a win (in a game played over 100 minutes)?

If so, I would imagine the Umpire will be dropped this coming Round

As the old story was “look at the scoreboard”

[bobmurray]

THE AFL has conceded a late free kick against Gold Coast defender Mac Andrew on Saturday night should not have been paid, but the League has ticked off two other controversial calls from the weekend's action.

With Gold Coast leading by three points at Marvel Stadium on Saturday night, Andrew was penalised for an off-the-ball hold on St Kilda spearhead Max King as the pair jostled close to goal.
Stephen McBurney, the AFL's Head of Officiating, conceded on Sunday that both players were grappling and the correct decision would have been to call play on.

"(The umpire) assessed that Andrew put both arms around Max King and paid holding the man. We think looking at the full context and with the benefit of all the angles we had, we think the better call in that situation was no call," McBurney said.

"We don't think there was enough to constitute holding and we think there was significant contact both ways as they were grappling and running for position.
Despite the error, McBurney said the umpire in question will continue to officiate at AFL level, saying "he absolutely will not be dropped over a decision like this".

"We can see why the umpire has paid the free kick. It wouldn't be classified as a major error or a critical error under our assessment. It was a judgement call," he said.

read the full article here...
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1147982/afl ... n-saturday

[Mr Magic]

Is there an article about the other contentious decisions over the weekend or just the one referencing the AFL lovechild??