Windhager

[repta]

Windhager has been OK this year but not as good as last year. Others have dropped off far more than he has therefore has probably run a bit under the radar. He has been OK and deserved his spot. But not a standout.

Last year he was doing tagging roles and run with roles. This year not so much.

Today was a great example.
Q1 - 1 handball 1 tackle
Q2. - 5 disposals no tackles

At half time Windhager given the tagging role of Harley Reid
Q3 5 disposals 4 tackles 4 clearances.
Q4 7 disposals 3 tackles 2 clearances

Harley down had 3 possessions). No clearances after being completely dominant in the first half.

Well done Windhager. I hope that you have more tagging roles.

The game needs to be learnt. One way is to shut out great players.

[The_Dud]

Won us the game

[saynta]

Won us the game

Yes he did,

[Killa]

And at quarter time Steele had not touched the ball

Plus Ross only touched it 6 times all game - and Webster who I assume was on Cripps, had it 7 times all game

These players being among our most experienced

Windhager stood up in the second half

So, as a run with player, has he done Ross and Steele out of their jobs?

And the “small defender” remains a problem

[B.M]

First half he was across HB - has no idea how to play there

Is an inside mid/tagger

We had an AA hb playing as an inside mid and Windhager playing hb

They had 1 bull mid capable of being damaging - we put our smallest, most offensive mid to him.
All week to plan - and come up with that?!
Are you fkn serious

[saynta]

And at quarter time Steele had not touched the ball

Plus Ross only touched it 6 times all game - and Webster who I assume was on Cripps, had it 7 times all game

These players being among our most experienced

Windhager stood up in the second half

So, as a run with player, has he done Ross and Steele out of their jobs?

And the “small defender” remains a problem

Hmmm. Interesting. Food for thought.

[B.M]

Webster was on Ryan - kept falling over

Ross was on a wing - as you would put an inside mid with average disposal in that role!

[Banger9798]

Webster was on Ryan - kept falling over

Ross was on a wing - as you would put an inside mid with average disposal in that role!

It's insane.
Were we trying to lose?

[saynta]

Webster was on Ryan - kept falling over

Ross was on a wing - as you would put an inside mid with average disposal in that role!

It's insane.
Were we trying to lose?

Maybe. Not as far fetched as it sounds.

[bigcarl]

Tagging seems to bring out the best in him where he not only beats his opponent, but wins a lot of his own ball as well.

Who was it he did a job on against Pies? De Goey?

[B.M]

It was Daicos

Ross had DeGoey

Surprise- we put our inside mids inside with roles - we perform well

[mbogo]

Nick Daicos .. beat him clearly all day

[StPeter]

It has been obvious to me for at least 3 seasons now, that Windhager plays his best when given a tagger/run-with role.
He has been found wanting when tried in other positions, especially half-back. Why do they persist in trying him there?

[Killa]

And there is the knock I have always had on Webster

He loses his feet in a game where you need to stay on your feet

Plus, being left footed, his disposal has the grace left footers seem to have - except where do they finish up?

From TV coverage (and the rubbish which is commentary) who our back 6/7 were was unknown as was who they were responsible for

We know Howard, Willie and Battle were back there

Plus Webster, Wanganeen-Milera and Bonner

So that is 6, allowing for any interchanges

And it was their “smalls” who got shots on goal

[perfectionist]

Jack Steele was on Reid in the first quarter and kept him quiet. Steele was released in the second quarter and Dow went to Reid. Worked alright most of the time until WC had a dominant period at the centre bounce and Reid, being untagged and alone on the defensive side of the ball up, capitalised. Windhager had been poor until then. Whilst he can get to the fall of the ball, he is not strong enough to break free and his handball skills not good enough from a pack to set others running. He is a lot better when he doesn't actually get the ball but prevents someone who could hurt us getting it as well. That's what he did in the third quarter. He was helped by the fact that Reid lost concentration after the sling of Wilson. You could see it on his face. Windhager capitalised and got kicks himself. One thing about tagging a good player is that they take you to the ball. The other winning "move" in the last quarter was the injury to King. We kicked 5 goals in the last having kicked 7 in the first three.

[B.M]

Steele was getting tagged by Dom Sheed from the first bounce

Simpson said so in his presser

Kept Steele to 18 touches (zero in the First) which Simpson was happy with.

In true Steel style, getting tagged - still got his hands dirty with game high 15 tackles

[loris]

Windhager was mainly playing extra man (7 backs) across back half during first half. He only picked up an actual player when either Bonner or Nasiah left their player to advance the ball through the centre or were having a rest on the pine. Plus he went onto Ryan briefly when Webster was off the ground for a period (Jimmy went down the race to get some attention). So Windhager was more a loose player in defense, not permanently positioned as a half back flanker.
I was at the game - you don’t pick up such nuances off TV. Obviously the commentators didn’t pick it up also.

I assume he was played in the back half to try and have a harder bodied player to pick up smalls - missing Stocker there folks!!

[B.M]

Just a thought?!

Wouldn’t Sinclair be a bit better in that role?

Given he is an AA half back!

And Windy be a bit more suited to the midfield- as he has played his best footy there!

[bigcarl]

Webster was on Ryan - kept falling over

Ross was on a wing - as you would put an inside mid with average disposal in that role!

It's insane.
Were we trying to lose?

Maybe. Not as far fetched as it sounds.

Ross will be furious that his tanking plans have come unstuck.

[Scollop]

Jack Steele was on Reid in the first quarter and kept him quiet. Steele was released in the second quarter and Dow went to Reid. Worked alright most of the time until WC had a dominant period at the centre bounce and Reid, being untagged and alone on the defensive side of the ball up, capitalised. Windhager had been poor until then. Whilst he can get to the fall of the ball, he is not strong enough to break free and his handball skills not good enough from a pack to set others running. He is a lot better when he doesn't actually get the ball but prevents someone who could hurt us getting it as well. That's what he did in the third quarter. He was helped by the fact that Reid lost concentration after the sling of Wilson. You could see it on his face. Windhager capitalised and got kicks himself. One thing about tagging a good player is that they take you to the ball. The other winning "move" in the last quarter was the injury to King. We kicked 5 goals in the last having kicked 7 in the first three.

Good observations

David King said in the closing minute or just after the final siren...that "Windhager was the difference. He won them the match"

The sheople listened and voted accordingly

It's interesting how many times people take their cues (look up the word if you don't understand what I mean) from commentators. Obviously...it's easier than thinking for yourself

[saynta]

Webster was on Ryan - kept falling over

Ross was on a wing - as you would put an inside mid with average disposal in that role!

It's insane.
Were we trying to lose?

Maybe. Not as far fetched as it sounds.

Ross will be furious that his tanking plans have come unstuck.

.. Yep, took his eyes off the ball and let his assistants have a free run for once.

[nostalgicsaint]

Jack Steele was on Reid in the first quarter and kept him quiet. Steele was released in the second quarter and Dow went to Reid. Worked alright most of the time until WC had a dominant period at the centre bounce and Reid, being untagged and alone on the defensive side of the ball up, capitalised. Windhager had been poor until then. Whilst he can get to the fall of the ball, he is not strong enough to break free and his handball skills not good enough from a pack to set others running. He is a lot better when he doesn't actually get the ball but prevents someone who could hurt us getting it as well. That's what he did in the third quarter. He was helped by the fact that Reid lost concentration after the sling of Wilson. You could see it on his face. Windhager capitalised and got kicks himself. One thing about tagging a good player is that they take you to the ball. The other winning "move" in the last quarter was the injury to King. We kicked 5 goals in the last having kicked 7 in the first three.

Good observations

David King said in the closing minute or just after the final siren...that "Windhager was the difference. He won them the match"

The sheople listened and voted accordingly

It's interesting how many times people take their cues (look up the word if you don't understand what I mean) from commentators. Obviously...it's easier than thinking for yourself

Interesting take.

Mine.

The sign tackle occurred because he was frustrated and had lost concentration already due to the close checking he was receiving.

[Scollop]

Jack Steele was on Reid in the first quarter and kept him quiet. Steele was released in the second quarter and Dow went to Reid. Worked alright most of the time until WC had a dominant period at the centre bounce and Reid, being untagged and alone on the defensive side of the ball up, capitalised. Windhager had been poor until then. Whilst he can get to the fall of the ball, he is not strong enough to break free and his handball skills not good enough from a pack to set others running. He is a lot better when he doesn't actually get the ball but prevents someone who could hurt us getting it as well. That's what he did in the third quarter. He was helped by the fact that Reid lost concentration after the sling of Wilson. You could see it on his face. Windhager capitalised and got kicks himself. One thing about tagging a good player is that they take you to the ball. The other winning "move" in the last quarter was the injury to King. We kicked 5 goals in the last having kicked 7 in the first three.

Good observations

David King said in the closing minute or just after the final siren...that "Windhager was the difference. He won them the match"

The sheople listened and voted accordingly

It's interesting how many times people take their cues (look up the word if you don't understand what I mean) from commentators. Obviously...it's easier than thinking for yourself

Interesting take.

Mine.

The sign tackle occurred because he was frustrated and had lost concentration already due to the close checking he was receiving.

The tackle occurred before half-time. Windhager wasn't on him at that stage

The changing of the magnets was after that

[bigcarl]

Jack Steele was on Reid in the first quarter and kept him quiet. Steele was released in the second quarter and Dow went to Reid. Worked alright most of the time until WC had a dominant period at the centre bounce and Reid, being untagged and alone on the defensive side of the ball up, capitalised. Windhager had been poor until then. Whilst he can get to the fall of the ball, he is not strong enough to break free and his handball skills not good enough from a pack to set others running. He is a lot better when he doesn't actually get the ball but prevents someone who could hurt us getting it as well. That's what he did in the third quarter. He was helped by the fact that Reid lost concentration after the sling of Wilson. You could see it on his face. Windhager capitalised and got kicks himself. One thing about tagging a good player is that they take you to the ball. The other winning "move" in the last quarter was the injury to King. We kicked 5 goals in the last having kicked 7 in the first three.

Good observations

David King said in the closing minute or just after the final siren...that "Windhager was the difference. He won them the match"

The sheople listened and voted accordingly

It's interesting how many times people take their cues (look up the word if you don't understand what I mean) from commentators. Obviously...it's easier than thinking for yourself

Interesting take.

Mine.

The sign tackle occurred because he was frustrated and had lost concentration already due to the close checking he was receiving.

The tackle occurred before half-time. Windhager wasn't on him at that stage

The changing of the magnets was after that

You sure? I don’t think that’s right

[Scollop]

Jack Steele was on Reid in the first quarter and kept him quiet. Steele was released in the second quarter and Dow went to Reid. Worked alright most of the time until WC had a dominant period at the centre bounce and Reid, being untagged and alone on the defensive side of the ball up, capitalised. Windhager had been poor until then. Whilst he can get to the fall of the ball, he is not strong enough to break free and his handball skills not good enough from a pack to set others running. He is a lot better when he doesn't actually get the ball but prevents someone who could hurt us getting it as well. That's what he did in the third quarter. He was helped by the fact that Reid lost concentration after the sling of Wilson. You could see it on his face. Windhager capitalised and got kicks himself. One thing about tagging a good player is that they take you to the ball. The other winning "move" in the last quarter was the injury to King. We kicked 5 goals in the last having kicked 7 in the first three.

Good observations

David King said in the closing minute or just after the final siren...that "Windhager was the difference. He won them the match"

The sheople listened and voted accordingly

It's interesting how many times people take their cues (look up the word if you don't understand what I mean) from commentators. Obviously...it's easier than thinking for yourself

Interesting take.

Mine.

The sign tackle occurred because he was frustrated and had lost concentration already due to the close checking he was receiving.

The tackle occurred before half-time. Windhager wasn't on him at that stage

The changing of the magnets was after that

You sure? I don’t think that’s right

I'm sure

You can watch the replay. It happened just before half time. Also Simpson made mention of 'what he said to Harley' during the long break.