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Kane Cork Sucker

Post: # 2062525Post magnifisaint »

Kane Cornes!

What else do you expect from this tosser

Forget the contract, Max King must leave the Saints

St Kilda forward Max King’s career is being wasted.

The towering 202-centimetre key forward, selected at No.4 in the 2018 national draft, should be entering the prime of his career, dominating big games in front of appreciative crowds and emerging as one of the AFL’s premier spearheads.

Instead, King finds himself at a crucial moment in his career. He needs to start asking the hard questions about his future.

Where has it gone wrong for King?

St Kilda’s defensively oriented game plan under coach Ross Lyon works against him. Will he reach his full potential playing under Lyon and within a low-scoring system that is not favourable for an ambitious key forward?

King has played 79 games, kicked 152 goals and savoured just one winning final. Each week, rivals assign their best key defender to negate him. With St Kilda’s stagnant and slow ball-movement patterns, opposing teams have time to get numbers back. King is left to compete against two or three defenders. He also lacks a threatening forward teammate who could take some pressure off.


King is always the first St Kilda player to be criticised when the Saints perform poorly. It’s no wonder he looks sad, lacks energy and appears to have the weight of the world on his shoulders.

King is contracted until the end of 2026 when he qualifies for free agency at age 26. But he should run.

Other than Richmond, who won three premierships across four years through 2017-20, and West Coast, St Kilda have the weakest AFL list and appear the furthest away from premiership success.

If King stays at the Saints with Lyon, he will be forced to play in a game style not suited to maximising his talents. He faces the stark reality that St Kilda are years away from experiencing any meaningful team success.


This season, St Kilda rank last in three key statistical categories: forward-half kicking efficiency, forward-half intercepts to score and forward-half clearance to score. They rank17th out of 18 for goals per inside 50.

Only West Coast (69) and winless North Melbourne (66) have scored fewer points than St Kilda (71) this season.

What key forward can realise his full potential with numbers like these? It’s no surprise Champion Data rates King as the 29th key forward in the game.

King is managed by high-profile agent Paul Connors, who has a history of navigating his clients to their preferred club regardless of existing contracts. Connors is one of the AFL’s most powerful and influential player managers, and he is not someone to get offside, more so when clubs – as St Kilda want to – are desperate to attract free agents and talented players.


If King demanded a trade at the end of this season, it is possible the Saints would be forced to reluctantly honour his request. Others in the Connors stable include Richmond’s Jacob Hopper, St Kilda small forward Jack Higgins, Melbourne’s Jack Billings, Sydney ruckman Brodie Grundy and Geelong’s Jack Bowes (the latter two managed by Robbie D’Orazio at Connors Sports Management), who were traded to the club of their choice despite being under contract.

Another Connors client, West Coast key defender Tom Barrass, explored a move to Sydney during last year’s trade period before deciding to stay at the Eagles where he is contracted until the end of 2027.

It is unlikely that King would request a trade at the end of the season, but it is possible if things continue on the same path. Connors would be the man to make it happen.

Sydney tried to lure Western Bulldogs forward Aaron Naughton with a reported $12 million contract across 10 seasons. King is a superior player to Naughton and 12 months younger.

St Kilda coach Ross Lyon, whose game plans have been built around defence.

For King, who came through the private school system in Melbourne, a move interstate to a club such as Sydney could be beneficial and remove him from his comfort zone.

The Swans are always on the lookout for key forwards and could offer King a fresh start in a system and culture that values and exploits his strengths.

The Swans’ more dynamic and attacking style would allow King to flourish, potentially transforming him into one of the league’s top forwards. Imagine King on the end of kicks from the Swans’ elite ball users such as Errol Gulden, Chad Warner and Nick Blakey.

King would not be short of suitors in Victoria – think Collingwood, Melbourne, Essendon and Geelong, who should be looking for a replacement for their club games record holder Tom Hawkins.


There is a strong likelihood that either this year or next, teams will have the flexibility to trade draft picks two years into the future, making it more feasible to pull off a trade for a big name such as King.

King’s talent is undeniable, but his potential is being suffocated by a coach and plan that does not play to his strengths

As he approaches the prime of his career, he faces a critical decision: stay loyal to a club that seems unable to provide the environment for him to succeed, or chase team success while playing with freedom and flair elsewhere.

For King, the path to becoming one of the AFL’s elite forwards has run into a brick wall at St Kilda.

..... might as well relocate The Saints to Darwin then.


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Re: Kane Cork Sucker

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Wannabe shock jock trying to stir up some "outrage" and headlines.


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The ultimate attention seeker. Deliberately throws bombs to get a reaction. It'll be someone else's turn next week.

Ignore and move on


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But he’s right, our ball movement forward to the juggler King is slow and does allow backmen to gang up on him . You see it every game someone marks around forward side of the square and they prop dead and you can see they are waiting for our loose forward whether it’s King or another one to be manned up on .


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seano1 wrote: Thu 30 May 2024 3:44pm But he’s right, our ball movement forward to the juggler King is slow and does allow backmen to gang up on him . You see it every game someone marks around forward side of the square and they prop dead and you can see they are waiting for our loose forward whether it’s King or another one to be manned up on .
Maybe so, but the crux of his argument is
...he should run.
So here's my take - the reason we got rid of Gresham and Billings was because they'd reached their ceiling - very good but not great players. Now we're investing in youth in the hope that they have a higher ceiling. Max King has enormous potential, yet to be realised, but hopefully it will be sooner rather than later at St Kilda, so he's the sort of player we need to keep.


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Post: # 2062540Post Beno88 »

Why do people continue to post garbage from Cornes and other AFL media clowns on here? It's exactly what those tools want.

I avoid AFL media for exactly that reason, I'd rather not see it on here. It doesn't deserve the oxygen.


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Can’t really fault the bones of the story


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Beno88 wrote: Thu 30 May 2024 4:44pm Why do people continue to post garbage from Cornes and other AFL media clowns on here? It's exactly what those tools want.

I avoid AFL media for exactly that reason, I'd rather not see it on here. It doesn't deserve the oxygen.
I tend to be agree
I mean read the article objectively
King should now leave - why?
Saints are in a slump ….great analysis!!
His bum cum Lloyd is desperate to land a King, any King at Essenscum (Cornes has even borrowed his high brow analysis “further away from a flag, worst list et. “ )
Just ask yourselves…
Last season ?
Ross was a genius
The side was “on the up” ….
This lot of shock jocks get off faster than a hooker on heat
It will be someone else’s turn soon
I don’t even read the shyte it’s so lame and predictable
Geezus the little tiny AFL media fishbowl is full of absolute troll garbage atm
If it ain’t Kornes it’s that other Carlton clown McClure (a head you’d love to punch)
Nothing to see move on


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Post: # 2062546Post wally »

There’s been a few on here wanting to trade King.I think most would agree he’d go a lot better in a better side.
We need to get some better players in to support without losing any of our best.


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Kane Cornes punches down it’s his schtick. His use of stats is rubbery to the point he only pulls the ones that help his assertions. It’s easy to be negative and show negative stats when a team is going bad and we all agree we have issues. Everyone knows what is wrong with the Saints but you cannot change it overnight. I guess when/if Kane becomes a coach he will be able to figure out his teams’ problems and the premierships will flow. Maybe he can coach the Saints to our next Premiership and with his expert insight create a dynasty of Saints success. Multi premierships. Yes. Sorry just being ridiculous. But not as ridiculous as selling King or him leaving for just a premiership, remember N. Buckley left Brisbane to win premierships, how did that go? As a Saints supporter Max’s dream would be to be “with St Kilda” when we go marching in. He will be remembered as part of that group forever. Moving on maybe something Max would think about when he is getting close to 30 and we haven’t moved the dial and most would understand, but now to cut and run, it would be a bit of a sour taste. He stays for at least 5 years, does his best to be part of our next premiership keeps himself as a top forward so when he gets close to his next contract he can assess then stay or go. Money is not going to be his issue he will be paid well wherever he goes but if he wants a premiership no better place to be immortalised than being in the next Saints team that wins one.


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Post: # 2062550Post magnifisaint »

Interesting reaction. Trade all your good players for peanuts and spend another 10 years at the bottom of the ladder. How does this help?


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magnifisaint wrote: Thu 30 May 2024 3:17pm Kane Cornes!

What else do you expect from this tosser

Forget the contract, Max King must leave the Saints

St Kilda forward Max King’s career is being wasted.

The towering 202-centimetre key forward, selected at No.4 in the 2018 national draft, should be entering the prime of his career, dominating big games in front of appreciative crowds and emerging as one of the AFL’s premier spearheads.

Instead, King finds himself at a crucial moment in his career. He needs to start asking the hard questions about his future.

Where has it gone wrong for King?

St Kilda’s defensively oriented game plan under coach Ross Lyon works against him. Will he reach his full potential playing under Lyon and within a low-scoring system that is not favourable for an ambitious key forward?

King has played 79 games, kicked 152 goals and savoured just one winning final. Each week, rivals assign their best key defender to negate him. With St Kilda’s stagnant and slow ball-movement patterns, opposing teams have time to get numbers back. King is left to compete against two or three defenders. He also lacks a threatening forward teammate who could take some pressure off.


King is always the first St Kilda player to be criticised when the Saints perform poorly. It’s no wonder he looks sad, lacks energy and appears to have the weight of the world on his shoulders.

King is contracted until the end of 2026 when he qualifies for free agency at age 26. But he should run.

Other than Richmond, who won three premierships across four years through 2017-20, and West Coast, St Kilda have the weakest AFL list and appear the furthest away from premiership success.

If King stays at the Saints with Lyon, he will be forced to play in a game style not suited to maximising his talents. He faces the stark reality that St Kilda are years away from experiencing any meaningful team success.


This season, St Kilda rank last in three key statistical categories: forward-half kicking efficiency, forward-half intercepts to score and forward-half clearance to score. They rank17th out of 18 for goals per inside 50.

Only West Coast (69) and winless North Melbourne (66) have scored fewer points than St Kilda (71) this season.

What key forward can realise his full potential with numbers like these? It’s no surprise Champion Data rates King as the 29th key forward in the game.

King is managed by high-profile agent Paul Connors, who has a history of navigating his clients to their preferred club regardless of existing contracts. Connors is one of the AFL’s most powerful and influential player managers, and he is not someone to get offside, more so when clubs – as St Kilda want to – are desperate to attract free agents and talented players.


If King demanded a trade at the end of this season, it is possible the Saints would be forced to reluctantly honour his request. Others in the Connors stable include Richmond’s Jacob Hopper, St Kilda small forward Jack Higgins, Melbourne’s Jack Billings, Sydney ruckman Brodie Grundy and Geelong’s Jack Bowes (the latter two managed by Robbie D’Orazio at Connors Sports Management), who were traded to the club of their choice despite being under contract.

Another Connors client, West Coast key defender Tom Barrass, explored a move to Sydney during last year’s trade period before deciding to stay at the Eagles where he is contracted until the end of 2027.

It is unlikely that King would request a trade at the end of the season, but it is possible if things continue on the same path. Connors would be the man to make it happen.

Sydney tried to lure Western Bulldogs forward Aaron Naughton with a reported $12 million contract across 10 seasons. King is a superior player to Naughton and 12 months younger.

St Kilda coach Ross Lyon, whose game plans have been built around defence.

For King, who came through the private school system in Melbourne, a move interstate to a club such as Sydney could be beneficial and remove him from his comfort zone.

The Swans are always on the lookout for key forwards and could offer King a fresh start in a system and culture that values and exploits his strengths.

The Swans’ more dynamic and attacking style would allow King to flourish, potentially transforming him into one of the league’s top forwards. Imagine King on the end of kicks from the Swans’ elite ball users such as Errol Gulden, Chad Warner and Nick Blakey.

King would not be short of suitors in Victoria – think Collingwood, Melbourne, Essendon and Geelong, who should be looking for a replacement for their club games record holder Tom Hawkins.


There is a strong likelihood that either this year or next, teams will have the flexibility to trade draft picks two years into the future, making it more feasible to pull off a trade for a big name such as King.

King’s talent is undeniable, but his potential is being suffocated by a coach and plan that does not play to his strengths

As he approaches the prime of his career, he faces a critical decision: stay loyal to a club that seems unable to provide the environment for him to succeed, or chase team success while playing with freedom and flair elsewhere.

For King, the path to becoming one of the AFL’s elite forwards has run into a brick wall at St Kilda.

..... might as well relocate The Saints to Darwin then.

I know hate is a strong emotion and as a christian not supposed to be something I feel but I really really hate that effing c##ksucker. He is lucky someone hasn't tried to punch his ticket.

And who the F##k calls their kid Kane FFS. No wonder the guy is a dribbling idiot.


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Teflon wrote: Thu 30 May 2024 5:22pm
Beno88 wrote: Thu 30 May 2024 4:44pm Why do people continue to post garbage from Cornes and other AFL media clowns on here? It's exactly what those tools want.

I avoid AFL media for exactly that reason, I'd rather not see it on here. It doesn't deserve the oxygen.
I tend to be agree
I mean read the article objectively
King should now leave - why?
Saints are in a slump ….great analysis!!
His bum cum Lloyd is desperate to land a King, any King at Essenscum (Cornes has even borrowed his high brow analysis “further away from a flag, worst list et. “ )
Just ask yourselves…
Last season ?
Ross was a genius
The side was “on the up” ….
This lot of shock jocks get off faster than a hooker on heat
It will be someone else’s turn soon
I don’t even read the shyte it’s so lame and predictable
Geezus the little tiny AFL media fishbowl is full of absolute troll garbage atm
If it ain’t Kornes it’s that other Carlton clown McClure (a head you’d love to punch)
Nothing to see move on
A Colleague of Sam’s disclosed to me at Electric Nightclub on the weekend that Sam McClure is the most unlikable prick going around. Everyone hates him around the office.


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"I know hate is a strong emotion and as a christian not supposed to be something I feel but I really really hate that effing c##ksucker. He is lucky someone hasn't tried to punch his ticket."

No offence, but you're falling for it. Next thing angry people will be ringing SEN, etc. It's just what he/they want. And after the weekend, if another team loses badly it will be "crisis at xxxxxxxxx", and this will be forgotten.


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Methinks King's problems are primarily his own. He gets an awful lot of ball aimed at him. But he doesn't lead well and remains highly unreliable in front of goal (that infernal ball-twirling can't help). A move to CHF, with licence to roam upfield to contest kickouts, can't hurt.


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cps wrote: Thu 30 May 2024 6:17pm "I know hate is a strong emotion and as a christian not supposed to be something I feel but I really really hate that effing c##ksucker. He is lucky someone hasn't tried to punch his ticket."

No offence, but you're falling for it. Next thing angry people will be ringing SEN, etc. It's just what he/they want. And after the weekend, if another team loses badly it will be "crisis at xxxxxxxxx", and this will be forgotten.
Yeah, maybe but Cornes is an effing tool and I wanted to put that out there.


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Post: # 2062559Post The Fireman »

i love how some get sucked in by popcorn

he'd be laughing his head off if he read this s*** :lol:


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The Fireman wrote: Thu 30 May 2024 6:32pm i love how some get sucked in by popcorn

he'd be laughing his head off if he read this s*** :lol:
Who really cares if the prick is laughing...not I.

I once told his arsehole of a father to eff off back to his backward state and I would love the chance to repeat the same insults to his crappy son.


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Sydney can’t even afford to keep it’s current players

HTF can the afford 1M dollars for King?!


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Cornes was a good footballer but he's paid to be a s*** stirrer. I haven't seen any stories baiting his old side.


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magnifisaint wrote: Thu 30 May 2024 7:08pm Cornes was a good footballer but he's paid to be a s*** stirrer. I haven't seen any stories baiting his old side.
Good footballer? I don't think so. Your second part of the post is correct though.


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He did play 300 games so he wasn't too shabby. Not a good person but a decent footballer.


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Post: # 2062584Post The_Dud »

Again, everyone is just hanging out to play the victim.

Seems like a lot of what he’s saying is spot on.

King should be starting to dominate - he’s clearly not. Is he being wasted in the Lyon gameplan? Would it be beneficial for all parties for him to move on and us get top dollar in return, before he loses all value. Legit questions.


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Post: # 2062598Post MC Gusto »

3 things i have noticed in comparison to his twin this season
1. Ben looks bulkier
2. Ben runs harder'
3. Ben gets the ball served on a plate... ohh to have midfield class like the suns

1 and 2 completely in Max's hands unless he is been told not to lead and not to be in the gym


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