The Blame game
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Re: The Blame game
For me, the problem is what we're being told by the club is at odds with what we are seeing.
I've got no issue in going backwards to go forwards. But the platitudes week on week are cop outs and not a true indication of where we're at.
If Ross came out and said "We are building a premiership team and that means we are focusing on development in 2024", that would at least be refreshing and reassuring.
But no, we are trying to be seen to win every game we're in. And with the number of poor losses this year it just reeks of incompetence.
Just come out and say we aren't competitive because we're trying to build and play a gameplan in excess of our current skill level.
If the efforts so far this year is genuinely the best that Ross and his team have - throw in the towel now.
I've got no issue in going backwards to go forwards. But the platitudes week on week are cop outs and not a true indication of where we're at.
If Ross came out and said "We are building a premiership team and that means we are focusing on development in 2024", that would at least be refreshing and reassuring.
But no, we are trying to be seen to win every game we're in. And with the number of poor losses this year it just reeks of incompetence.
Just come out and say we aren't competitive because we're trying to build and play a gameplan in excess of our current skill level.
If the efforts so far this year is genuinely the best that Ross and his team have - throw in the towel now.
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Re: The Blame game
Scollop dives in with his obsessive compulsive ..give us a break let people speak without your analcystScollop wrote: ↑Sun 19 May 2024 4:25pmYour thread title implies there shouldn't be blame directed in only one area...and yet you suggest that the players 'are not as good as people believe'older saint wrote: ↑Sun 19 May 2024 4:08pm
......we just are not as good as people believe and again it showed last night. Blaming the coach is the easy thing to do and look how that has worked over 150 years . Clubs Like Geelong and Richmond stuck fat in recent years and now have silverware. We currently lack confidence also which is not a good combination.
Isn't that pointing the finger in one direction and absolving the coach?
You're contradicting yourself again with your last sentence.
I can handle losses. I just can't handle coaches not taking ownership and not sharing in accountability and responsibility for our losses
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Thanks for your contribution to the issues already discussed and to the thread titleRubyjo wrote: ↑Sat 25 May 2024 8:23pmScollop dives in with his obsessive compulsive ..give us a break let people speak without your analcystScollop wrote: ↑Sun 19 May 2024 4:25pmYour thread title implies there shouldn't be blame directed in only one area...and yet you suggest that the players 'are not as good as people believe'older saint wrote: ↑Sun 19 May 2024 4:08pm
......we just are not as good as people believe and again it showed last night. Blaming the coach is the easy thing to do and look how that has worked over 150 years . Clubs Like Geelong and Richmond stuck fat in recent years and now have silverware. We currently lack confidence also which is not a good combination.
Isn't that pointing the finger in one direction and absolving the coach?
You're contradicting yourself again with your last sentence.
I can handle losses. I just can't handle coaches not taking ownership and not sharing in accountability and responsibility for our losses
Nuffnuff cockhead
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Re: The Blame game
Ruby Jo...does it kind of suggest this name is associated with a woman?
I know this is the age of diversity, equity and inclusion so I suppose a woman can be a cockhead if we are being fair, out of curiosity through what is the feminine way to express cockhead?
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Re: The Blame game
Every time I see a Ruby Jo post - it’s not the content of the post, but the nomenclature ‘Ruby Jo’, that my mind floats back to the past and thinks of Jack Ruby - he who shot Lee Harvey Oswald, who shot President Kennedy!Vortex wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 10:17amRuby Jo...does it kind of suggest this name is associated with a woman?
I know this is the age of diversity, equity and inclusion so I suppose a woman can be a cockhead if we are being fair, out of curiosity through what is the feminine way to express cockhead?
Nothing at all to do with a nuffnuff cocckhead as the scallop so eloquently posts.
Now me mentioning Jack Ruby/ Lee Harvey Oswald will bring out all the conspiracy theorists from the General Forum onto this thread - hello HardSaint & markp
Sorry Vortex, could not add anything meaningful to your query. Carry on ole bean
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The CIA without question was behind the whole thing.loris wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 12:35pmEvery time I see a Ruby Jo post - it’s not the content of the post, but the nomenclature ‘Ruby Jo’, that my mind floats back to the past and thinks of Jack Ruby - he who shot Lee Harvey Oswald, who shot President Kennedy!Vortex wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 10:17amRuby Jo...does it kind of suggest this name is associated with a woman?
I know this is the age of diversity, equity and inclusion so I suppose a woman can be a cockhead if we are being fair, out of curiosity through what is the feminine way to express cockhead?
Nothing at all to do with a nuffnuff cocckhead as the scallop so eloquently posts.
Now me mentioning Jack Ruby/ Lee Harvey Oswald will bring out all the conspiracy theorists from the General Forum onto this thread - hello HardSaint & markp
Sorry Vortex, could not add anything meaningful to your query. Carry on ole bean
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Re: The Blame game
I reckon from the posting style he's a bloke ...who definitely listens to 3AW a fair bit
To answer your question though, maybe stupid bitch could be used. I suspect that's not socially acceptable so maybe 'silly twat' is better. It's probably gender neutral as well
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So have I got you right, are you claiming a woman can't sound like a moron bogan bloke?Scollop wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 2:11pmI reckon from the posting style he's a bloke ...who definitely listens to 3AW a fair bit
To answer your question though, maybe stupid bitch could be used. I suspect that's not socially acceptable so maybe 'silly twat' is better. It's probably gender neutral as well
If that's what you're implying Scollo I'd say your WOKE credibility will take a serious hit.
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I used to be a moron bogan*, but these daysVortex wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 2:32pmSo have I got you right, are you claiming a woman can't sound like a moron bogan bloke?Scollop wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 2:11pmI reckon from the posting style he's a bloke ...who definitely listens to 3AW a fair bit
To answer your question though, maybe stupid bitch could be used. I suspect that's not socially acceptable so maybe 'silly twat' is better. It's probably gender neutral as well
If that's what you're implying Scollo I'd say your WOKE credibility will take a serious hit.
I consider myself a woke bogan
* So I can spot a bogan bloke from a bogan sheila
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Are there end of year awards for dumbest post? I would normally laugh at the stupidity and move on, but reading this has actually made me stupider such that I feel compelled to respond.Vortex wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 2:32pmSo have I got you right, are you claiming a woman can't sound like a moron bogan bloke?Scollop wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 2:11pmI reckon from the posting style he's a bloke ...who definitely listens to 3AW a fair bit
To answer your question though, maybe stupid bitch could be used. I suspect that's not socially acceptable so maybe 'silly twat' is better. It's probably gender neutral as well
If that's what you're implying Scollo I'd say your WOKE credibility will take a serious hit.
The only word they imply shouldn't be used is bitch (which is about right, in my experience anyone referring to a woman with a hard 'bitch' has about a 90% chance of being a bad bloke), and you try to use the answer to your question about a feminine version of cockhead as some kind of gotcha?
This post is going to be swimming around my brain trying to work out how you thought it was in any way logical. I think I need to go for a walk to try to process it before the game starts or I will be too distracted.
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If you drill down into the gaps between the words you'll realise you won't learn this type of stuff at university.St Dave wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 3:37pmAre there end of year awards for dumbest post? I would normally laugh at the stupidity and move on, but reading this has actually made me stupider such that I feel compelled to respond.Vortex wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 2:32pmSo have I got you right, are you claiming a woman can't sound like a moron bogan bloke?Scollop wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 2:11pmI reckon from the posting style he's a bloke ...who definitely listens to 3AW a fair bit
To answer your question though, maybe stupid bitch could be used. I suspect that's not socially acceptable so maybe 'silly twat' is better. It's probably gender neutral as well
If that's what you're implying Scollo I'd say your WOKE credibility will take a serious hit.
The only word they imply shouldn't be used is bitch (which is about right, in my experience anyone referring to a woman with a hard 'bitch' has about a 90% chance of being a bad bloke), and you try to use the answer to your question about a feminine version of cockhead as some kind of gotcha?
This post is going to be swimming around my brain trying to work out how you thought it was in any way logical. I think I need to go for a walk to try to process it before the game starts or I will be too distracted.
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Right, so you are saying there is information is the spaces between words? I don't think there is anything important happening in the next 30 mins so teach me how to see them. Hopefully it doesn't require chemical assistance or the application of brain worms.Vortex wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 5:34pmIf you drill down into the gaps between the words you'll realise you won't learn this type of stuff at university.St Dave wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 3:37pmAre there end of year awards for dumbest post? I would normally laugh at the stupidity and move on, but reading this has actually made me stupider such that I feel compelled to respond.Vortex wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 2:32pmSo have I got you right, are you claiming a woman can't sound like a moron bogan bloke?Scollop wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 2:11pmI reckon from the posting style he's a bloke ...who definitely listens to 3AW a fair bit
To answer your question though, maybe stupid bitch could be used. I suspect that's not socially acceptable so maybe 'silly twat' is better. It's probably gender neutral as well
If that's what you're implying Scollo I'd say your WOKE credibility will take a serious hit.
The only word they imply shouldn't be used is bitch (which is about right, in my experience anyone referring to a woman with a hard 'bitch' has about a 90% chance of being a bad bloke), and you try to use the answer to your question about a feminine version of cockhead as some kind of gotcha?
This post is going to be swimming around my brain trying to work out how you thought it was in any way logical. I think I need to go for a walk to try to process it before the game starts or I will be too distracted.
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Re: The Blame game
It actually would be very helpful...mushies, MDMA or weed...
I'd go MDMA this afternoon just to get some love into our hearts to cope
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Don’t play the vortex game Saint Dave he has a PhD. He is so much smarter than you.
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No no no Vortex told us that “he”
has the PhD
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Is Ruby Jo your partner?
Total respect if she is, she's got some serious balls about her and I constantly admire her provocative posting style, mate I don't think she needs you defending her though.
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Sorry, I said that post made me stupider and clearly it has hit my reading comprehensionThe Fireman wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 7:21pmNo no no Vortex told us that “he”
has the PhD
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Took you a while to catch on.
What was paid for Hill just as big a stuff up as getting rid of Goddard, Dal & Mcevoy!
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That’s ok just keep reading vortex’s posts..you’ll feel betterSt Dave wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 7:26pmSorry, I said that post made me stupider and clearly it has hit my reading comprehensionThe Fireman wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2024 7:21pmNo no no Vortex told us that “he”
has the PhD