Caleb Daniel, anyone?

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Caleb Daniel, anyone?

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Dropped by the Dogs this week.

Seeing our recruiting geniuses talked him up bigtime pre-draft only to inexplicably select Lonie instead, maybe we can belatedy get him to the Saints?


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Post: # 2051628Post skeptic »

Was a big fan but do we need him?

Seems like his best is behind him


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Post: # 2051678Post Otiman »

Maybe if we could time travel and nab him 10 years ago.

Still wouldn't have won us a final.


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Should be focussing our trade attention on B+ or A grade midfielders only.


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Re: Caleb Daniel, anyone?

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For what role

He is an average small forward

Good HB but we already have 2

Too small as a mid


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We should have taken him instead of Jack Lonie all those years ago.


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Would rather Jack Macrae now.


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No thanks.


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Wasn’t Caleb gone before Lonie?


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SaintPav wrote: Fri 12 Apr 2024 7:24pm Wasn’t Caleb gone before Lonie?

3 41 St Kilda Jack Lonie 87
3 42 Melbourne Billy Stretch F 47
3 43 Adelaide Mitch McGovern Carlton 114
3 44 Brisbane Liam Dawson A 18
3 45 Western Bulldogs Bailey Dale Western Bulldogs 135
3 46 Western Bulldogs Caleb Daniel Western Bulldogs 180


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Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Fri 12 Apr 2024 7:33pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 12 Apr 2024 7:24pm Wasn’t Caleb gone before Lonie?

3 41 St Kilda Jack Lonie 87
3 42 Melbourne Billy Stretch F 47
3 43 Adelaide Mitch McGovern Carlton 114
3 44 Brisbane Liam Dawson A 18
3 45 Western Bulldogs Bailey Dale Western Bulldogs 135
3 46 Western Bulldogs Caleb Daniel Western Bulldogs 180
The club put out a video pre-draft where they seriously discussed Daniels. They said something along the lines of he's overcome every challenge. He was acknowledged as a great user of the footy.
Turned out to be a significantly better player than Lonie...Just the sort of ball user we could have used in those years.


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Life Long Saint wrote: Sat 13 Apr 2024 11:46am
Waltzing St Kilda wrote: Fri 12 Apr 2024 7:33pm
SaintPav wrote: Fri 12 Apr 2024 7:24pm Wasn’t Caleb gone before Lonie?

3 41 St Kilda Jack Lonie 87
3 42 Melbourne Billy Stretch F 47
3 43 Adelaide Mitch McGovern Carlton 114
3 44 Brisbane Liam Dawson A 18
3 45 Western Bulldogs Bailey Dale Western Bulldogs 135
3 46 Western Bulldogs Caleb Daniel Western Bulldogs 180
The club put out a video pre-draft where they seriously discussed Daniels. They said something along the lines of he's overcome every challenge. He was acknowledged as a great user of the footy.
Turned out to be a significantly better player than Lonie...Just the sort of ball user we could have used in those years.
Geeez that makes me angry.
I wanted Caleb so badly at the time

Do you know how to tell we were #u@$?ed as a club at the time?
I, a non-football playing amateur with no experience in the industry… with the aid of the big footy and other AFL mock draft write ups, absolutely took our club to task on 3-4 or so drafts over that era at least as far as the first 2 picks went.

Cringe


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We would’ve pigeon holed Daniel as a small forward

He’d have had fa impact, and been inconsistent

Supporters would have bagged the fk out of him for being too small (6 cm shorter than Lonie)

The only definite- we would not have had the foresight to play him at HB where he was an AA


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That meeting was Cringe

Elshaug convinced Richo that McCartin should be pick 1

Richo was challenging him on his diabetes and weight. Elshaug was hilarious stating the the diabetes was a positive thing because he had to manage it. AR stressed we had to get that pick right

On Daniel - Richo questioned his lack of size as a factor in the AFL? Elshaug seemed to rate Daniel.

We obviously saw someone that small being a small forward
And Lonie had the runs on the board in that position
Being Bic Country MVP and U18 AA in that position
Plus he was a local

As a pick 41 87 games and 80 goals is an ok return

Daniel was a great choice by the Dogs at 46 what even better is how he was developed and how they used him

Which went with a number of great selections at that time
Libba, Bont, McCrae, Johannison etc which ended up in a premiership


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Gone


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NO!


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B.M wrote: Sat 13 Apr 2024 2:13pm That meeting was Cringe

Elshaug convinced Richo that McCartin should be pick 1

Richo was challenging him on his diabetes and weight. Elshaug was hilarious stating the the diabetes was a positive thing because he had to manage it. AR stressed we had to get that pick right

On Daniel - Richo questioned his lack of size as a factor in the AFL? Elshaug seemed to rate Daniel.

We obviously saw someone that small being a small forward
And Lonie had the runs on the board in that position
Being Bic Country MVP and U18 AA in that position
Plus he was a local

As a pick 41 87 games and 80 goals is an ok return

Daniel was a great choice by the Dogs at 46 what even better is how he was developed and how they used him

Which went with a number of great selections at that time
Libba, Bont, McCrae, Johannison etc which ended up in a premiership
Our midfield should be led by Petracca and Bontempelli but instead we employed clowns in recruiting.


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Post: # 2052425Post Yorkeys »

By the end of this season Bevo will have sent every Doggy player into therapy. Perhaps hang off recruiting any until they recover equilibrium.


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