Kicking at goal

[B.M]

Has a Ross Lyon coached team ever been reliable in front of goal

He lost GFs in 2009 and 2013 because his forwards couldn’t kick under pressure

Higgins, Owens are forwards who are woeful kicks

Wouldn’t back them in a set shot from 30m

[Yorkeys]

Will soon be a multi option.
If bookies offer 50/50 odds they will clean up.

[shrodes]

Not sure why it's a Ross Lyon thing. Our team hasn't been able to kick straight in about a decade

[B.M]

Membrey hit and miss

Higgins can’t kick a straight forward goal
Owens is a horrendous kick - which is why he isn’t a forward!

Butler kicks the ball 13 metres

King is unreliable

It’s heart in your mouth stuff

When Stringer, Jones and Langford are having a shot
Put your glasses down and pencil it in

[cwrcyn]

We would be ranked close to last in the competition for set shot conversion over the past 4 years

[B.M]

Over the last 15 I’d guarantee we are dead last

A few years back our accuracy was 41%

Only 2020 did we have a positive record in front of goal

Not since the Gehrig days have we been reliable


All the defensive systems in the world don’t help you if you miss goals - because you keep the opposition in the game

[skeptic]

I noted 0.2 to Coops today.

That’s bad for him

[Life Long Saint]

When Stringer, Jones and Langford are having a shot
Put your glasses down and pencil it in

I need my glasses to see what I am writing, though.

[B.M]

At one stage we had kicked 3-7 from set shots

They kicked 3-1

That’s 10 scoring shots to 4 for a one goal lead

[Teflon]

Not sure why it's a Ross Lyon thing. Our team hasn't been able to kick straight in about a decade

This from the guy who told us coaches are overrated…
Now they’re responsible for AFL players missing from 20 out…
Insight there….

[Nick DalSanto Claus]

The rot set in after we hired that corkhead, Ben Dixon. We went from bad to worse under his "tutelage".

Don't forget his best "technique" was to get the players to imagine the best sex they'd ever had, as they were lining up, and visualize their partner in that union standing behind the goals. That then became the target.

Genius! For some unknown reason, our goal-kicking became worse, and Dixhead was given the sack. No other team has adopted this technique, nor has anyone else hired him in that capacity. I wonder why?

Neither side has forgiven the other. Dixhead bags us whenever he can.

[B.M]

Coaches

Responsible for two things

Selection
Structure

Brett Ratten was responsible for losses when he coached yeah
But Lyon is not when he coaches

Least you’re consistent


I thought allowing Nick Martin to get 44 (30 uncontested) was pretty good
About as good as when Sicily and Daicos got 40+ last year
Great structure there - send a forward up to stoppage allow a defender to get 45

[Ghost Like]

I will guarantee if Ross Lyon had the magical formula for kicking goals, he, A) Would have employed it over his coaching career & B) Would not be coaching us but making millions on a retainer.

Lyon can only put a structure in place for players to have the easier shot at goal. What they do from there is on the player.

[B.M]

So it is the players??

[The_Dud]

Fev used to kick 500 goals a week at training, how many are our forwards?

King has improved and is now our best shot.

Membrey and Sharman have regressed to just being average.

The rest are hopeless.

How many years has this been biting us in the ass?

[Nick DalSanto Claus]

We should've put them away by halftime. The final blow was Stringer kicking the set shot from outside 50. Talk about a punishing lesson.

I wonder how Sharman, Higgins, and the other guilty parties felt having missed what should've been gimmies for AFL standard forwards.

Losing so narrowly was the salt being rubbed into the wounds. Surely, we have a designated kicking coach? Is it BJ, Caroll, or RTB? Who's teaching the Irishman the basics?

This unreliability in such an important skill reflects poorly on the coaches and the players.

RTB has been quick to clean out the non-performers. The two Walshes, Lethlean, Toce et al.

Who will take responsibility for the lack of competence in an area that has cost us too many games and a flag in 2009? Time to address the very inaccurate elephant in the room. Over to you, Andrew, and RTB!!

[SaintPav]

To rub salt into the wounds, Stringer’s long goal that won them the game reminded me of Gavin Wanganeen’s match winning goal in the 2004 Preliminary final against Port.

[Scollop]

Who will take responsibility for the lack of competence in an area that has cost us too many games and a flag in 2009? Time to address the very inaccurate elephant in the room. Over to you, Andrew, and RTB!!

This

[Trixilver]

I noted 0.2 to Coops today.

That’s bad for him

All players we get in are reliable. After a few years we coach it out of them.

[Teflon]

Coaches

Responsible for two things

Selection
Structure

Brett Ratten was responsible for losses when he coached yeah
But Lyon is not when he coaches

Least you’re consistent


I thought allowing Nick Martin to get 44 (30 uncontested) was pretty good
About as good as when Sicily and Daicos got 40+ last year
Great structure there - send a forward up to stoppage allow a defender to get 45

This why thank **** Ross Lyon coaches and you’re not even the cleaner …
Go have a look at the presser - Martin wasn’t hurting us at HT …St Kikda was hurting us at HT….but you knew that…after the fact …
But again ….coaches are overrated right? Or responsible for players who can’t kick 20 out OR who try round the corner kicks (Hi Rowan) when a drop punt will do??
Make up your mind….

[Teflon]

I will guarantee if Ross Lyon had the magical formula for kicking goals, he, A) Would have employed it over his coaching career & B) Would not be coaching us but making millions on a retainer.

Lyon can only put a structure in place for players to have the easier shot at goal. What they do from there is on the player.

Yup

[The Fireman]

Each player who missed tonight is fully aware of their shortfalls
They will be hurting more than us

It can only improve

[Yorkeys]

Look, the forwards are contracted to score 60 points. It's defence's job to keep opposition to 59. So it's the defence's fault.
Of course we could try a plan b and just crush teams when we can.
One lesson is Hastie. Arnie, Collard, Garcia have to play and Pou has to hear some home truths. After a while you need to really step up and be the real deal.
Forwards should be ashamed today. I wonder if they are.
Sincs can start hitting targets anytime he likes as well and stop trying to be overly cute. His kicking isn't the weapon it was last year just yet.
If we can't win games like today, and we couldn't, several changes needed. We should have beaten Cats, should have flogged Pies, should have beaten the Edge team easily, but we have no cohesion in attack. Forget top 4 of course, need to blood the future.

[B.M]

You believe everything you hear in a presser

Explain HTF 27 at HT has had no effect on the game? Seriously, get off the kool aide ignoramous

He also defended his position with Daicos and Sicily last year - did you fall for that too???

He was s*** tonight in the box

Outcoached

[ace]

Forget top 4 of course, need to blood the future.

Already obvious who they will be
Collingwood, Brisbane, Melbourne and Port Adelaide
St Kilda is playing for the minor finals.