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Bonner

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What do we do with Bonner ?


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Re: Bonner

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He completely lost his nerve after quarter time. Started ignoring team mates in space and bombing long. The pressure got to him. We knew he wasn't a physical player, but there were some timid efforts today that I think Ross Lyon will be pointing out.. it's one thing to be able to kick. It's another thing to choose the correct option.

Looks like a player whose confidence deserts him quickly.


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049102Post Bowey Boy »

Good at getting it. Even better at giving it away.


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049104Post Otiman »

Lost confidence after 2 mistakes last week. Not good enough this week.


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Post: # 2049106Post Life Long Saint »

17 turnovers deserves a game for Sandy.


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049111Post B.M »

The modern game is all about where you manufacture the spare (or +1) and how effective they are

Last week it was NWM across hb - and we won

This week it was Bonner - and we lost

Essendon would’ve been happy for him to be the spare

As Martin was theirs


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049113Post mad saint guy »

Showed why he was delisted by Port. He looked great in the pre season but I wondered how he'd stand up to the pressure in the real season. Looks like he crumbles. I'd rather stick with Hastie


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Post: # 2049118Post Bowey Boy »

Named in Best today at the AFL Shite, er Site.


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049125Post Otiman »

Bowey Boy wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 7:54pm Named in Best today at the AFL Shite, er Site.
AI journalism rubbish. And if its not AI then its just rubbish.


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049130Post Devilhead »

He is hopless in a contested groundball situation .... or just contested full stop


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049133Post Otiman »

Rubyjo wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 7:31pm What do we do with Bonner ?
The options are you back him in, or drop him.

I don't think dropping him adds value to the team or to the player.

However, I am of the belief he shoud have played VFL this week with Hastie playing. You cant play first gamers as sub.


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Life Long Saint wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 7:42pm 17 turnovers deserves a game for Sandy.
And this from HS

PLAYER OF THE YEAR

DANE HEVERIN’S VOTES

3 Nic Martin (ESS)

2 Zach Merrett (ESS)

1 Riley Bonner (STK)


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chook23 wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 8:21pm
Life Long Saint wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 7:42pm 17 turnovers deserves a game for Sandy.
And this from HS

PLAYER OF THE YEAR

DANE HEVERIN’S VOTES

3 Nic Martin (ESS)

2 Zach Merrett (ESS)

1 Riley Bonner (STK)
I stopped reading when you said HS.
There are only two things to beleive from that rag...The date and the price.


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049153Post The_Dud »

I’ve seen this bloke play 3 games, and all I’ve learnt from them is that he is a turnover machine.

Not a great trait for a backman.

Like a worse version of Raph Clarke


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Re: Bonner

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chook23 wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 8:21pm
Life Long Saint wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 7:42pm 17 turnovers deserves a game for Sandy.
And this from HS

PLAYER OF THE YEAR

DANE HEVERIN’S VOTES

3 Nic Martin (ESS)

2 Zach Merrett (ESS)

1 Riley Bonner (STK)
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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049157Post SaintPav »

Looks like HS mixed up kicks and turnovers column. :D

It was a horrendous performance and Lyon is going to cop a bit of flak if he drops him after what he said last week.


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Re: Bonner

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Life Long Saint wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 8:30pm
chook23 wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 8:21pm
Life Long Saint wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 7:42pm 17 turnovers deserves a game for Sandy.
And this from HS

PLAYER OF THE YEAR

DANE HEVERIN’S VOTES

3 Nic Martin (ESS)

2 Zach Merrett (ESS)

1 Riley Bonner (STK)
I stopped reading when you said HS.
There are only two things to beleive from that rag...The date and the price.
Obviously...AFL.com and HS journos giving Bonner votes didn't watch the whole match.

And....if they did watch parts of the game, then ... coincidentally, they weren't watching when he turned it over 17 times... or every time he was in a contest or there was a loose ground ball anywhere near him

Effing imbeciles at AFL.com and HS have looked at total disposals and given Bonner a vote.

But...hey... that's not as bad as a Saints supporter giving him votes

https://www.saintsational.net/viewtopic ... 3#p2049143


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049246Post D.B.Cooper »

Not one to bag players as a rule, or question their toughness, however Bonner seems to be adverse to any physical contact at this point in time.

Mason Wood and Jack Sinclair both were non physical players at a time in their careers, but now both show incredible commitment to the contest.

Something I hope Bonner can work on.

I do see him as a stop gap at the moment, a bit like the other guy from PA Leinert?


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049251Post B.M »

That’s not true about Sinclair

Maybe Wood too


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Post: # 2049257Post D.B.Cooper »

B.M wrote: Sat 30 Mar 2024 11:53pm That’s not true about Sinclair

Maybe Wood too
Disagree, early days in Sinclair’s career and that of Wood, whilst not suggesting they avoided contact (as Bonner is appearing to do) physical presence was not a strong point in their play, I even recall Wood mentioning that in an interview.

Both have become unflinching in their style of play which has assisted in turning Sinclair from a nice player into a genuine gun of the competition and Wood from being delisted from the wooden spooner to a regular senior player of some quality.

I admire both for turning into hard nut competitors when it perhaps did not come naturally to them.


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049259Post Scollop »

Both Sincs and Mason Wood have suffered severe concussion during games. Both were involved in collisions were they were brave and only had eyes for the footy

You'll never see Bonner get concussion. I guarantee you that


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049264Post Yorkeys »

Expensive.
Arie in next week. Will be able to dob goals from the back pocket if there is a slight breeze on The Parade.


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049271Post WellardSaint »

AFL site rated Bonner at 127 AF points, highest Saint.
3 higher than Steele.

Disposal Efficiency of 66%.

Champion Data is used very flawed non-realistic data points or criteria for DE.
I think a disposal is classed as perfect if it goes straight to a team-mate, near a team-mate, or to a 50/50.
What about if it's a hospital handpass and the team-mate is surrounded?
Anyway, it's plainly obvious that Bonner might get a lot (32 touches) but he's a liability.
Bonner turned the ball over 17 times.


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I have never before seen a player with over 1,000 metres gained even if they have the advantage of taking every kick in after a behind.
(He had 1,018 metres gained for those who didn't realise).
But it did seem he preferred to kick it in long to a contest around the boundary rather than pin point a closer target.


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Re: Bonner

Post: # 2049384Post Sainternist »

I hear Bonner was a favourite whipping boy for Port fans. 17 turnovers in one game is an egregious statistic. The team can ill afford to have repeat episodes of this. Send him down to the Magoos, until he shows signs of being able to use the ball more efficiently.


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