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Post: # 2048333Post saynta »

WTF did Peter Wright only get 4 weeks. incident almost identical to the Webster incident.

The press down played this which sickens me .


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I don’t know about identical… I’d have given Wright a 1 week discount for not being late. Deserved 6 for mine


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Deserved at least five.

But it’s fine to f—- over the small clubs. It’s only St Kilda


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Post: # 2048363Post Jacks Back »

Almost identical? Nah. It was in the play. Actually it was very much like Maynard's last year. Went to smother then turned and hit Brayshaw in the head who was then concussed. 2 metre Pedro went to mark then turned and hit Cunningham who was concussed.


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Post: # 2048376Post Sainternist »

I thought 4 weeks was a little harsh. There wasn’t any malice in it. Maybe slightly clumsy because he braced himself. You can’t compare it with the Webster incident, which was both reckless and late. Wright collided with Cunningham at the same time the ball arrived.


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Post: # 2048384Post Devilhead »

Sainternist wrote: Tue 26 Mar 2024 10:44pm I thought 4 weeks was a little harsh. There wasn’t any malice in it. Maybe slightly clumsy because he braced himself. You can’t compare it with the Webster incident, which was both reckless and late. Wright collided with Cunningham at the same time the ball arrived.
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The paradox: I'll put the full weight of my very large person at top pace into a defenceless guy, looking the other way, in the vicinity of his head and hope it all goes OK. No malice because I didn't want to cause brain damage, just hurt him a lot. Nothing personal, s*** happens. Yeah wasn't malicious because on reflection I didn't want to kill him dead. Just break a part of his body.


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Post: # 2048423Post samuraisaint »

They set themselves to go at Sydney with aggression.He's lucky to only get the four, for mine. I think Draper's one was worthy of a week too, tbh.


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Post: # 2048437Post Bin Chicken »

Was similar to Plugger and Caven for me. Ran back blindly and ran into a guy leading. Will go to grave saying Plugger did nothing wrong. Wright just seemed to brace when he saw the Shitney guy was in his path


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Jacks Back wrote: Tue 26 Mar 2024 9:35pm Almost identical? Nah. It was in the play. Actually it was very much like Maynard's last year. Went to smother then turned and hit Brayshaw in the head who was then concussed. 2 metre Pedro went to mark then turned and hit Cunningham who was concussed.
That's my perspective as well, Wright's bump was nowhere as severe as Webster's on Jy Simpkin, I thought 4 weeks was fair in this case.

Max King's suspension sets a new precedent for the MRO as in the past his bump on Finlay Macrae would have resulted in a fine. It is obvious that the AFL is clamping down on any contact to the head in order to prevent players being concussed.

Concussion is a massive issue in football today and while it's all very well for former players like Wayne Carey and commentators like Eddie McGuire to lament that footy is becoming "soft", when you read reports of how chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) has destroyed the life of footballers, it is quite understandable that the AFL had to tackle this matter much more seriously.

For example there was the death in February of former Colliongwood and Richmond player Craig Stewart, who succumbed to CTE at 66.

Then there's the horrific story this week of Footscray's Nigel Kellett who at age 54 suffers from dementia, CTE symptoms, early Parkinson's, depression, all attributed to concussions incurred on the footy field.

And closer to home, a talisman of our footy club, Danny Frawley.

We all love to see the strong physicality of AFL, the courage of players like Nick Riewoldt's spectacular mark running back with the flight of the ball straight into advancing defenders.

But we've now reached the stage where taking out an opponent with a bump to the head without due care is going to result in a suspension, irrespective of whether a player was concussed or not.


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Post: # 2048447Post Life Long Saint »

saynta wrote: Tue 26 Mar 2024 7:50pm WTF did Peter Wright only get 4 weeks. incident almost identical to the Webster incident.

The press down played this which sickens me .
Absolutely nothing like Webster's incident.
But it was worse than SPP from Port - which got four.
Should have been 5 weeks minimum.


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Bin Chicken wrote: Wed 27 Mar 2024 9:20am Was similar to Plugger and Caven for me. Ran back blindly and ran into a guy leading. Will go to grave saying Plugger did nothing wrong. Wright just seemed to brace when he saw the Shitney guy was in his path
Plugger raised the forearm - instant trouble. If he'd tucked his arm in, he'd have been OK. Caven would still have been knocked into the middle of next month, but there'd have been no report.


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Sanctorum wrote: Wed 27 Mar 2024 10:39am It is obvious that the AFL is clamping down on any contact to the head in order to prevent players being concussed.
That's clearly not the case.
There were multiple instances in the first 2 and-a-half rounds where head high contact hasn't been punished.
What they are cracking down on is a bump that goes high.

It's reactionary by the AFL...But that is nothing new.
They punish a bump to the shoulder - which is a a football act - that causes a clash of heads wasn't a head-high bump. But they forgive a punch - which is not a football act - that makes contact with the shoulder and then slips and goes high.

You should always punish the non-football act more harshly than the football act.

Webster's 7 weeks for a careless football act is completely outrageous. We should have taken it as far as we could on appeal.
I'd cop 7 if it was graded as intentional, and you could argue that it should have been, but it wasn't.


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Post: # 2048458Post magnifisaint »

Geez it looked clumsy by Wright. He didn't need to flatten the Sydney player.


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Devilhead wrote: Wed 27 Mar 2024 12:09am
Sainternist wrote: Tue 26 Mar 2024 10:44pm I thought 4 weeks was a little harsh. There wasn’t any malice in it. Maybe slightly clumsy because he braced himself. You can’t compare it with the Webster incident, which was both reckless and late. Wright collided with Cunningham at the same time the ball arrived.
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Bin Chicken wrote: Wed 27 Mar 2024 9:20am Was similar to Plugger and Caven for me. Ran back blindly and ran into a guy leading. Will go to grave saying Plugger did nothing wrong.
Almost the most inane comment I have ever read on here.

Suggest you go to YouTube and check it out again, Lockett changes direction to collect him and lunges his arm at his head

I was at that game and it was a disgusting act

Made even worse by the club trying to defend it in the ensuing days

It was an embarrassing act by a fabulous player


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Post: # 2048470Post Bin Chicken »

Not inane at all. Just watched a vid. When Plugger saw that Caven was gonna mark the ball - and he wouldn’t mark it - he braces himself for the collision. Even the umps told him after he had nothing to worry about lol.

What if the ball travelled further, Plugger marked it then Caven ran into him? Plugger had eyes on the ball - like Wright - then next second there’s this guy in front of you and you have micro seconds to react. I’ll stand by my opinion. Plugger was a physical player and served weeks for a lot of indiscretions. But he wasn’t a dirty prick like Hodge or Pickett or Hall and numerous others.


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Post: # 2048475Post B.M »

Plugger lined him up with elbow cocked

Not a great incident

Indefensible


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Post: # 2048502Post Nick DalSanto Claus »

Wright was described as a "
Gentle giant" on Channel 7 news tonight. :roll:


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Post: # 2048518Post Big Max »

Bin Chicken wrote: Wed 27 Mar 2024 9:20am Was similar to Plugger and Caven for me. Ran back blindly and ran into a guy leading. Will go to grave saying Plugger did nothing wrong. Wright just seemed to brace when he saw the Shitney guy was in his path
Mine is a subtle variation of the Plugger incident. Plugger was at his unstoppable best at that time, and I'm convinced the Sydney coach, Ron Barrassi instructed his player to run straight at Plugger when he was on the lead. And Plugger, being Plugger just ran straight through the defender.

They couldn't beat Plugger, so they did the next best thing and stole him with the full support and backing of the AFL.

And I'm taking it to the grave.


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Post: # 2048532Post Scollop »

Sainternist wrote: Wed 27 Mar 2024 1:25pm
Devilhead wrote: Wed 27 Mar 2024 12:09am
Sainternist wrote: Tue 26 Mar 2024 10:44pm I thought 4 weeks was a little harsh. There wasn’t any malice in it. Maybe slightly clumsy because he braced himself. You can’t compare it with the Webster incident, which was both reckless and late. Wright collided with Cunningham at the same time the ball arrived.
Nah can't agree ... it was the Edge that caused it
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Post: # 2048589Post CQ SAINT »

Plugged was just making sure they didn't both get concussed with an accidental clash of heads. He was concerned about his own health and Caven's apparent lack of awareness, putting himself in a very dangerous position. I hope the lad is ok though.


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