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Billings has indeed been quite good.

It's been enlightening watching him play for another team. His big drawbacks are that he doesn't make any sort of a physical impact on the game with either strength or speed and, while his skill levels are quite good, he doesn't have anything in his bag of tricks that can rip a game apart. In short, he's good without being great. Perhaps he'll improve a bit if he can stay in the Demons first team for a while and he can get back some of the confidence that I suspect Lyon knocked out of him.

It's a pity that we let him go, but there was really nothing left for him at our club.


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meher baba wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 3:43pm
It's a pity that we let him go, but there was really nothing left for him at our club.
Yes and no.

I said at the end of last year, I’d have liked to have seen 2 of Dmac, Jones and Billings go as they all seem injured all the time.

My choice would have been Billings who may have started with us opposed to Jones who lacks some class and starts the season at Sandy.
Watch this space I guess


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meher baba wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 3:43pm Billings has indeed been quite good.

It's been enlightening watching him play for another team. His big drawbacks are that he doesn't make any sort of a physical impact on the game with either strength or speed and, while his skill levels are quite good, he doesn't have anything in his bag of tricks that can rip a game apart. In short, he's good without being great. Perhaps he'll improve a bit if he can stay in the Demons first team for a while and he can get back some of the confidence that I suspect Lyon knocked out of him.

It's a pity that we let him go, but there was really nothing left for him at our club.
Pretty unfair to blame Lyon for any perceived lack of confidence. Jack hadn't had a good year with us since about 2019, well before Lyon arrived. Yes he was gifted games and playing in the seniors. All Lyon did was stop that nonsense and made him earn a game.


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whiskers3614 wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 3:41pm To all the Billings haters
go and have a look at his stats today.
As Vortex would say, we need a bigger sample size before we start eating that humble pie. :lol:

I did note that he didn't impact the scoreboard and MB stated that whilst he played well he wasn't exactly doing anything extraordinary. Obviously finding space well and providing a link. He'll need a few more tricks because if he keeps this form up opposition will be paying him far closer attention. That's when we'll find out whether he's changed his ways.


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Moods wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 4:20pm
meher baba wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 3:43pm Billings has indeed been quite good.

It's been enlightening watching him play for another team. His big drawbacks are that he doesn't make any sort of a physical impact on the game with either strength or speed and, while his skill levels are quite good, he doesn't have anything in his bag of tricks that can rip a game apart. In short, he's good without being great. Perhaps he'll improve a bit if he can stay in the Demons first team for a while and he can get back some of the confidence that I suspect Lyon knocked out of him.

It's a pity that we let him go, but there was really nothing left for him at our club.
Pretty unfair to blame Lyon for any perceived lack of confidence. Jack hadn't had a good year with us since about 2019, well before Lyon arrived. Yes he was gifted games and playing in the seniors. All Lyon did was stop that nonsense and made him earn a game.
So, when Phillipou was being selected ahead of Billings to play pretty much the same role in some key late season games, that was because Phillipou had “earned” those games?

Lyon plays favourites: always has, always will. And once he takes a set against a player, they can never overcome it. This happened to Billings. I suspect it’s happening now to Jones.

It’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it’s pretty devastating for the player who is affected by it.

Sometimes I suspect that picking on a particular player in this way is a cunning strategy on the part of Lyon to make all players in the team realise that none of them are invulnerable and, if they won’t/can’t play the way Lyon wants them to play, their career at the club could be over.


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His strength

Kicking i50

Our weakness

Kicking i50

How ironic


Having said that, he gave good service to the saints, was undervalued by Ross and is now at a better team playing a role
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Just looked

23 possessions
5 tackles
1 goal
140 ranking points

Haha


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Gresham

12 possessions
1 tackle
1 goal


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Dogs are a nice side. Let's see him when it's hot. He would have been roughed up by Geelong, no wings to hide in. Of course skilful but easily negated.Unless he did MMA course over summer.


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meher baba wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 4:48pm
Moods wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 4:20pm
meher baba wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 3:43pm Billings has indeed been quite good.

It's been enlightening watching him play for another team. His big drawbacks are that he doesn't make any sort of a physical impact on the game with either strength or speed and, while his skill levels are quite good, he doesn't have anything in his bag of tricks that can rip a game apart. In short, he's good without being great. Perhaps he'll improve a bit if he can stay in the Demons first team for a while and he can get back some of the confidence that I suspect Lyon knocked out of him.

It's a pity that we let him go, but there was really nothing left for him at our club.
Pretty unfair to blame Lyon for any perceived lack of confidence. Jack hadn't had a good year with us since about 2019, well before Lyon arrived. Yes he was gifted games and playing in the seniors. All Lyon did was stop that nonsense and made him earn a game.
So, when Phillipou was being selected ahead of Billings to play pretty much the same role in some key late season games, that was because Phillipou had “earned” those games?

Lyon plays favourites: always has, always will. And once he takes a set against a player, they can never overcome it. This happened to Billings. I suspect it’s happening now to Jones.

It’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it’s pretty devastating for the player who is affected by it.

Sometimes I suspect that picking on a particular player in this way is a cunning strategy on the part of Lyon to make all players in the team realise that none of them are invulnerable and, if they won’t/can’t play the way Lyon wants them to play, their career at the club could be over.
So he picked on him by not selecting him? And that made jack lose his confidence even though when he was selected he was playing poorly? I heard injuries and lack of pre season and every excuse under the sun as to why he couldn’t perform.

I guess in the end, a young player was gifted those games instead. Do I agree? Not necessarily, but there’s not a coach in the world that doesn’t have favourites


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How did daddy’s boy go today?

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Ross has cut his nose of to spite his face many times

This is just another example

JB proved today - as he did on numerous occasions with STK he is a quality AFL HF

Today he’ll get Brownlow votes, as he did a number of times before.

HFs that average 20ppg and a goal are pretty rare

Put it this way
Phillipou averaged 12 and half a goal last year and played 24 games. That’s being gifted games.

Billings papers were stamped pre season last year
Jones have been this year

He Farked up with Luke Ball
He Farked up with Matt DeBoer
He Farked up with Andrew Lovett
He Farked up with Harley Bennell

He makes some poor calls, that is fact


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B.M wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 8:57pm Ross has cut his nose of to spite his face many times

This is just another example

JB proved today - as he did on numerous occasions with STK he is a quality AFL HF

Today he’ll get Brownlow votes, as he did a number of times before.

HFs that average 20ppg and a goal are pretty rare

Put it this way
Phillipou averaged 12 and half a goal last year and played 24 games. That’s being gifted games.

Billings papers were stamped pre season last year
Jones have been this year

He Farked up with Luke Ball
He Farked up with Matt DeBoer
He Farked up with Andrew Lovett
He Farked up with Harley Bennell

He makes some poor calls, that is fact
Luke ball I’d dispute. Of course Ross isn’t perfect himself and you coach as many games as he has, there’s going to be clear errors along the way.

I certainly don’t think he farked up on Billings, he’s done nothing in 4 years and was on good coin


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Never doubted Billings' ability but also never thought he really looked the part in the red, white and black. From the moment he was drafted he looked like his heart wasn't really in it. I wish him well but I'm glad he's not playing for us. I don't think he'd ever have given us heart and soul.


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whiskers3614 wrote: Sun 17 Mar 2024 3:41pm To all the Billings haters
go and have a look at his stats today.
Let's see how he goes in a few big games against higher quality opposition. A front runner's front runner is Jackie B.


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Billings might go better playing outside a bull like Petracca.

That was never going to happen at our club, was it? :? :cry: :cry:


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Lets see how long before Billings is staring for Casey.


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Highest ranked player in a premiership calibre team.

But not good enough to get a game at the Saints 😂

“Yeah but he’s soft” - also a team high 5 tackles.

There’s a history of this happening!


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The_Dud wrote: Mon 18 Mar 2024 3:19pm Highest ranked player in a premiership calibre team.

But not good enough to get a game at the Saints 😂

“Yeah but he’s soft” - also a team high 5 tackles.

There’s a history of this happening!
He will be the next ex Saint to go on a win a premiership at another club. Bookmark it...


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Bulldogs aren’t a good team

AA Ruckman
Best player in the comp
10M key forward
JUH the most desirable player OOC in the AFL
Liberatore

They were Grand Finalists 2 years ago

McCrae can’t get a game
Daniel can’t get a game

The dogs are a fk load better than us imo


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Billings couldn’t get a game last year because

Butler, Higgins and Gresham were preferred and none were injured at all

And Ross only saw him as a small forward


Watched him at Sandy - He was batting with his dick at that level


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The same he will be doing when.he plays at Casey
Soft as butter.
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Umm

He was near BOG in the AFL yesterday

Something he’s done a number of times


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I didn't think he was that good. Henry is a big upgrade based on his performance at Geelong.


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Open the other eye

Henry
19 disposals
1 tackle
0 goals
56 ranking points
52% DE

Billings
23 disposals
5 tackles
1 goal
140 ranking points
73% DE

To say Henry played better is a ridiculous call!!!


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