I would like everyone's honest opinion
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- TheGreatZacsby
- Club Player
- Posts: 691
- Joined: Sat 18 Mar 2023 8:59am
- Has thanked: 41 times
- Been thanked: 242 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
I think with all the personnel out we are in trouble and look unlikely to beat them there.
Battle and Wilkie will be on Hawkins and Cameron because Ross will more likely play Schoenmaker because of Dougal Howard’s injury, so we are screwed there. You could argue Cordy will play over Schoenmaker which I hope is the case. I just got a gut feeling that Ross will play the kids.
Sinclair is most likely out and would have assisted our midfield worries because we suck there majorly. If we don’t land a big fish for our midfield this end of season trade period we will never make top 4 no matter how many kids you add. Phillipou is recovering from a hip issue. Windy out means we can’t tag out a Dangerfield, Tanner Bruhn or Jye Clark who are all contested ball winners that hurt teams in clearances.
Tom Stewart normally towels us up. Sharman will have to give up his game and take him out. No Butler in the side too. Darcy Wilson will need a big game as he will be taking his spot.
Webster is quick and takes out stengle every time we play them but he’s suspended so Stocker (who I rate) will probably struggle with Stengles pace.
I just can’t see us winning. I wasn’t happy with the North game at all. We looked cocky, predictable and missing basic skills.but I hope we win!
Battle and Wilkie will be on Hawkins and Cameron because Ross will more likely play Schoenmaker because of Dougal Howard’s injury, so we are screwed there. You could argue Cordy will play over Schoenmaker which I hope is the case. I just got a gut feeling that Ross will play the kids.
Sinclair is most likely out and would have assisted our midfield worries because we suck there majorly. If we don’t land a big fish for our midfield this end of season trade period we will never make top 4 no matter how many kids you add. Phillipou is recovering from a hip issue. Windy out means we can’t tag out a Dangerfield, Tanner Bruhn or Jye Clark who are all contested ball winners that hurt teams in clearances.
Tom Stewart normally towels us up. Sharman will have to give up his game and take him out. No Butler in the side too. Darcy Wilson will need a big game as he will be taking his spot.
Webster is quick and takes out stengle every time we play them but he’s suspended so Stocker (who I rate) will probably struggle with Stengles pace.
I just can’t see us winning. I wasn’t happy with the North game at all. We looked cocky, predictable and missing basic skills.but I hope we win!
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12738
- Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
- Has thanked: 5 times
- Been thanked: 2716 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Very unlikely
They win 80% of games there
It is an unusual shaped ground, they train there, their home ground advantage is significant
It would be an upset imo
They win 80% of games there
It is an unusual shaped ground, they train there, their home ground advantage is significant
It would be an upset imo
- The Fireman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13329
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:54pm
- Has thanked: 680 times
- Been thanked: 1966 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4344
- Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
- Location: earth
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 1467 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
I can only recall us winning there once in the past 40 years.
I don't see that changing this Saturday. They've had one injury all preseason, Cam Guthrie.
We currently have out injured or doubtful for round one due to insufficient conditioning, plus a suspended player
Howard
Windhager
Clark
Hayes
Butler
Sinclair
Dow
Jones
Crouch
Webster
Seven of those players would have played one if all fit
I don't see that changing this Saturday. They've had one injury all preseason, Cam Guthrie.
We currently have out injured or doubtful for round one due to insufficient conditioning, plus a suspended player
Howard
Windhager
Clark
Hayes
Butler
Sinclair
Dow
Jones
Crouch
Webster
Seven of those players would have played one if all fit
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6610
- Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
- Location: Here
- Has thanked: 1338 times
- Been thanked: 467 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Hopefully - yes, but honestly - no
As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”
St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 547
- Joined: Sun 07 Jan 2007 4:18pm
- Location: Derby, West Kimberley WA
- Has thanked: 827 times
- Been thanked: 160 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
We have just as much a chance of winning in the shadows of the Selwood stand as anyone else, especially having extra time to plan and fine tune replacements.
Geelong's still a pretty good side but we aren't all that bad ourselves.
Geelong's still a pretty good side but we aren't all that bad ourselves.
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6473
- Joined: Fri 18 Sep 2020 6:51am
- Has thanked: 862 times
- Been thanked: 1025 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Obviously we’ll be throwing everything at winning the game against Geelong but highly unlikely and I think our boys will really be setting themselves up for the home game against the Pies which will be huge because victory against the Pies will mean three straight losses for them to start their season. You heard it here first.
- samoht
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5878
- Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:45am
- Location: https://www.amazon.com.au/Fugitive-Sold ... B00EO1GCNK
- Has thanked: 615 times
- Been thanked: 460 times
- Contact:
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
12 of the regular Geelong players are the wrong side of 30 ... including Hawkins 35, Isaac Smith 34, Dangerfield 34, Tuohy 34, Stanley 33, Blicavs 33, Rohan 32, Duncan 32, Stewart 31, Guthrie 31, Cameron 31, Bews 30.
I think this will count against them ... especially late in the game ?
Saints by 30+ points (keeping to the theme).
I think this will count against them ... especially late in the game ?
Saints by 30+ points (keeping to the theme).
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4344
- Joined: Fri 15 Sep 2006 10:35am
- Location: earth
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 1467 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Smith retired last year and Guthrie is injured, but those other guys are supremely fit and they'll be the freshest they'll be for the whole season. We expect them to slow down but they defy the odds every year. They'll be pumped playing inside their new stands, too. The place will be rocking with Geelong fans going out of their minds.
It's easier to win in Perth
It's easier to win in Perth
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 5111
- Joined: Tue 13 Jun 2017 1:16pm
- Has thanked: 1457 times
- Been thanked: 1525 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Unfortunately, no. But I'll be there cheering and learning a bit about the players that we field.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 327
- Joined: Thu 13 Oct 2022 4:42pm
- Has thanked: 56 times
- Been thanked: 26 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
I think whether we win or lose will depend on a handful of players. In order of importance IMHO is...
Marshall - 25 possessions needed as a minimum and dominant around the ground with relieving marks.
King - 5 goals minimum required and needs to put plenty of pressure to not allow easy exits.
Sharman - 20 possessions and 10 marks needed but most importantly at least 4 goals.
Nas - 35 possessions from half back minimum.
Wilkie - 12 intercept marks required and also help as that third man up
Honourable mention to Bonner. We need him to have 25 possessions and set us up from the back half. If he does that and offsets the loss of Sinclair we should be right.
Marshall - 25 possessions needed as a minimum and dominant around the ground with relieving marks.
King - 5 goals minimum required and needs to put plenty of pressure to not allow easy exits.
Sharman - 20 possessions and 10 marks needed but most importantly at least 4 goals.
Nas - 35 possessions from half back minimum.
Wilkie - 12 intercept marks required and also help as that third man up
Honourable mention to Bonner. We need him to have 25 possessions and set us up from the back half. If he does that and offsets the loss of Sinclair we should be right.
NeXus Nick
- Otiman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8776
- Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2005 11:09pm
- Location: Elsewhere
- Has thanked: 203 times
- Been thanked: 658 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Our best will beat any side this year.
Our worst will lose to any side this year.
If we are primed mentally we will win.
Wheelo and Squiggle predictions both have us losing narrowly.
Our worst will lose to any side this year.
If we are primed mentally we will win.
Wheelo and Squiggle predictions both have us losing narrowly.
- Otiman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8776
- Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2005 11:09pm
- Location: Elsewhere
- Has thanked: 203 times
- Been thanked: 658 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
On Kardinia Park, it's the narrowest AFL ground in the league by far.
It's 15m narrower than Docklands and Moorabbin, and 25m narrower than the MCG.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-16/ ... /101154950
The cats know how to play this to their advantage, similar to how Sydney can build a style around the short and fat SCG.
It's 15m narrower than Docklands and Moorabbin, and 25m narrower than the MCG.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-16/ ... /101154950
The cats know how to play this to their advantage, similar to how Sydney can build a style around the short and fat SCG.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 130
- Joined: Wed 14 Jun 2006 8:50pm
- Location: Aspendale, vic
- Been thanked: 3 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
I may be wrong, but thought RTB had a couple of wins in Geelong with the Dockers, all about game plan for the ground dimensions.
Rather a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
- saintsRrising
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 30098
- Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 711 times
- Been thanked: 1235 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
RTB is not phased by coaching teams to win at KP. So he probably will have a few ideas on how to help us win.
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12098
- Joined: Sun 11 Sep 2011 2:26pm
- Has thanked: 3705 times
- Been thanked: 2578 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Of course we can win. We need to win clearances and restrict their opportunities going inside 50.
We can't play a totally attacking (or defensive) game, but I think others have summed it up. Our fitness is good, so we'll come very close if our mids stay on top.
We can't play a totally attacking (or defensive) game, but I think others have summed it up. Our fitness is good, so we'll come very close if our mids stay on top.
Last edited by Scollop on Mon 11 Mar 2024 4:13pm, edited 1 time in total.
- saintsRrising
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 30098
- Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 711 times
- Been thanked: 1235 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Yes RTB has had some good wins at KP.
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 3385
- Joined: Wed 12 Sep 2007 5:30pm
- Has thanked: 172 times
- Been thanked: 519 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Head says no.
haven't won there since Loewe Harvey and Burke were still playing
That said will make a statement if we do regardless of where Geelong end up
haven't won there since Loewe Harvey and Burke were still playing
That said will make a statement if we do regardless of where Geelong end up
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 160
- Joined: Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:26pm
- Has thanked: 9 times
- Been thanked: 59 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Bookies say Geelong, they are $1.50 favorites, Saints $2.60 outsiders.
But I think we'll win, we finished above the Cats last year and we've got natural improvement, whereas Geelong are clearly on the slide.
But I think we'll win, we finished above the Cats last year and we've got natural improvement, whereas Geelong are clearly on the slide.
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1223
- Joined: Fri 07 May 2010 3:00pm
- Has thanked: 204 times
- Been thanked: 307 times
Re: I would like everyone's honest opinion
Enright will bring us home on this one ..no doubt a massive upset on the cards ..we are basically new kids on the block and will upset the Geelong apple cart .
- skeptic
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 17047
- Joined: Wed 10 Mar 2004 7:10pm
- Has thanked: 3663 times
- Been thanked: 2927 times