Au Revoir Chris Toce

[Yorkeys]

A number, well say AJ and Kennedy of Hawthorn, used militaristic over the top boys rhetoric and boarding school discipline. Both would probably have made super Warrant Officers. As BM notes they had champion players. Nevertheless the more I find out about the individuals in the 66 side the more I admire AJ's man management skills. Now, Barrassi changed the way the game was strategised, as I think Wallace, Roos and Blight did.

[CQ SAINT]

A number, well say AJ and Kennedy of Hawthorn, used militaristic over the top boys rhetoric and boarding school discipline. Both would probably have made super Warrant Officers. As BM notes they had champion players. Nevertheless the more I find out about the individuals in the 66 side the more I admire AJ's man management skills. Now, Barrassi changed the way the game was strategised, as I think Wallace, Roos and Blight did.

So Ross is a disciple of Roos and a student of man management strategies?

I'll buy that.

[CQ SAINT]

Roos was ok.

But I'll take Leigh Matthews any day.

One took a job with the AFL.

The other lead an AFL club to three premierships in Timbuktu.

[B.M]

How do you measure a coaches success?

Or figure out how good they are???

[Vortex]

How do you measure a coaches success?

Or figure out how good they are???

Sustained top 4 finishes has been the measure for a while, even for the clubs that don’t win a flag. Basically being able to reach and maintain high performance over sustained periods.

[B.M]

But then aren’t you dependent on other teams not being very good?

If ladder position or premiership success determines greatness

It means Tony Jewell and Alan Joyce are better coaches the RL

Not sure I agree with that?

[Vortex]

But then aren’t you dependent on other teams not being very good?

If ladder position or premiership success determines greatness

It means Tony Jewell and Alan Joyce are better coaches the RL

Not sure I agree with that?

"Sustained" is the operative word.

So for example, let's say Chris Scott only has the 2011 flag to his name, he still was valued in the industry up until the 22 flag incredibly highly because he was at the helm of a team that was consistently in the top 4 and 8.

It's the definition of "relevant", the very thing we crave and desire at our club.

RL is on a knife's edge.

He still trades off the win/loss ratio from 2007 to 2013, not so much after that but (shhh)

If he fails at his second list rebuild then the history books will judge him harshly as being the coach who could only coach a team chock full of ready made GF types.

[CQ SAINT]

But then aren’t you dependent on other teams not being very good?

If ladder position or premiership success determines greatness

It means Tony Jewell and Alan Joyce are better coaches the RL

Not sure I agree with that?

"Sustained" is the operative word.

So for example, let's say Chris Scott only has the 2011 flag to his name, he still was valued in the industry up until the 22 flag incredibly highly because he was at the helm of a team that was consistently in the top 4 and 8.

It's the definition of "relevant", the very thing we crave and desire at our club.

RL is on a knife's edge.

He still trades off the win/loss ratio from 2007 to 2013, not so much after that but (shhh)

If he fails at his second list rebuild then the history books will judge him harshly as being the coach who could only coach a team chock full of ready made GF types.

He is not building a list.

He is setting up a strategy and banking that it will pay off in four years.

He is off to a good start when you search for our best 35 players and project another 50 games into our youngest from Wilson to Clark.

By the end of this year, we will be able to target the free agents we need and take aim at a sustained era.

Lyon realises he may not be coaching, but he will have corrected the narrative.

So far, I'm impressed.

[Vortex]

But then aren’t you dependent on other teams not being very good?

If ladder position or premiership success determines greatness

It means Tony Jewell and Alan Joyce are better coaches the RL

Not sure I agree with that?

"Sustained" is the operative word.

So for example, let's say Chris Scott only has the 2011 flag to his name, he still was valued in the industry up until the 22 flag incredibly highly because he was at the helm of a team that was consistently in the top 4 and 8.

It's the definition of "relevant", the very thing we crave and desire at our club.

RL is on a knife's edge.

He still trades off the win/loss ratio from 2007 to 2013, not so much after that but (shhh)

If he fails at his second list rebuild then the history books will judge him harshly as being the coach who could only coach a team chock full of ready made GF types.

He is not building a list.

He is setting up a strategy and banking that it will pay off in four years.

He is off to a good start when you search for our best 35 players and project another 50 games into our youngest from Wilson to Clark.

By the end of this year, we will be able to target the free agents we need and take aim at a sustained era.

Lyon realises he may not be coaching, but he will have corrected the narrative.

So far, I'm impressed.

For magic to work one must believe

[saintsRrising]

Roughead now also gone.

[skeptic]

Hmmm…

Well that would end the mystery and questioning around whatever his mysterious role was.

[Nick DalSanto Claus]

[flash=][/flash]

Roughead now also gone.

No surprises there, sR. Sacked or moved on/made redundant?

[saintsRrising]

Roughead now also gone.

No surprises there, sR. Sacked or moved on/made redundant?

I suspect he either picked up on, or was told, that he would not be required.


Callum Twomey
@CalTwomey
St Kilda’s recruiter Jarryd Roughead has resigned from his role, making the call before the club’s Christmas break. The four-time Hawthorn premiership star had spent four years at the Saints, with a main focus in recruiting in recent seasons

[Nick DalSanto Claus]

Roughead now also gone.

No surprises there, sR. Sacked or moved on/made redundant?

I suspect he either picked up on, or was told, that he would not be required.


Callum Twomey
@CalTwomey
St Kilda’s recruiter Jarryd Roughead has resigned from his role, making the call before the club’s Christmas break. The four-time Hawthorn premiership star had spent four years at the Saints, with a main focus in recruiting in recent seasons

I'd bet good money on it being the latter, saintsRising.

[WellardSaint]

Roughy- did Tones get on here and say it first?