Arie Schoenmaker

[ace]

What’s the rumour here? All I can find is he bought alcohol for underage teammates which seems much ado about nothing.

That's all I could find, and his response was humbling enough to chalk it down to a teenager making a mistake. A second indiscretion becomes a problem.

Give me De Gooey with 5 indiscretions

[TheGreatZacsby]

What’s the rumour here? All I can find is he bought alcohol for underage teammates which seems much ado about nothing.

That's all I could find, and his response was humbling enough to chalk it down to a teenager making a mistake. A second indiscretion becomes a problem.

Give me De Gooey with 5 indiscretions

Or Tarryn Thomas and all of his off field stuff.

[Banger9798]

Under the leadership of RTB any d**khead behaviour will ne snuffed out, or even better re directed towards his footy.

Kids grow up.

Remember what you were like at 17....(and if we had have had phones, internet and cameras everywhere)

[cwrcyn]

Well if those rumours are true, it's pretty damning on his character. If it is common knowledge in AFL circles, he'll need to pull his head in from day one with us. If our players are aware of his alleged bullying, then it could be an awkward and uneasy situation for them, which I think is worrying.

He will soon learn that Ross will only accept professionalism and hard work, and he will get no respect from his team mates if he doesn't show some maturity or humility.

I know some on here think we have been focussed on choirboys for the past 10 years, but believe me, character really counts

[ace]

What did St Kilda give up to get hold of pick 62

To answer my own question
Nothing
St Kilda already possessed a 5th round pick 72 going into the draft
It became pick 62 after Gold Coast passed twice and Essendon, Richmond, Carlton, Collingwood, West Coast, Sydney passed once and academy or father son queue jumping removed the other 3
So despite all the early queue jumping pick 72 became pick 62.
Using this pick so late only Geelong picked a mature age recruit and Brisbane made one final pick.
It could be considered a pre-emptive pick ahead of the rookie draft so don't expect St Kilda to actually make a pick in the rookie draft.
Instead the final place on the lists will go to a train on player via a supplemental selection.

[Scollop]

The last talented draft prospect that I remember was misbehaving before his draft year ended up a star, even though he was a dhead junior

https://www.afl.com.au/news/201267/top- ... reath-test

[ace]

The last talented draft prospect that I remember was misbehaving before his draft year ended up a star, even though he was a dhead junior

https://www.afl.com.au/news/201267/top- ... reath-test

Charlie Curnow was linked to Melbourne at pick 3, and Essendon at picks 4 & 5, even Carlton at picks 8 & 11.
Carlton finally took him at pick 30.
Yes pick 30 so talent available to every club
Now every club knows who the real d**kheads were - their recruiting teams.

A player may be a d**khead but that d**khead is one of your players.
Get over him being a d**khead and watch his football.
I am sure Carlton fans watching their d**khead play makes them smile.

[Brunswicksainter]

GOT THE DISABILITY BULLY

What’s the rumour here? All I can find is he bought alcohol for underage teammates which seems much ado about nothing.

The rumour is he bullied a disabled kid and the victim posted about it online on reddit. We don’t know if it’s true, or if it’s this high school drama bulldust that kids these days do or it’s genuinely true. Plus the under gage drinking thing at the camp. It’s made a lot of clubs turned off from him.

But BigFooty has a lot of rival club forumites came in and congratulated us. They say he’s a generational talent likened to Sicilly and that no one was bold enough to take him because of the above issues despite his amazing talent. So we did well. Same can be said about Collard.

Collard apparently got issues to like big Go Home Factor, hangs out with the wrong crowd etc.

I prefer taking the risk than the vanilla Jack newnes Nanny boy bulldust we use to trade for. Toce, SOS and Gubby know what they are doing. Toce especially.

We all went WHO IS WILKIE? He’s become a star of the club. I reckon Garcia/Hastie will be one of the those.

Lol half of our list has probably done worse. What a joke.

[skeptic]

The underage one feels like a bit of a beat up without more details.

Many kids start fooling around with alcohol well before 18 and plenty more have bought booze for friends or friends of friends after they turned 18. Am not condoning it by any means but am certainly not going to write off a youngster for that indiscretion.

[SAINT-LEE]

Culture at the club is critical to our long term success.
Character in players helps them stay committed & focussed...

But we've lacked lads with a healthy mindset AND a bit of mongrel.

Baker was brilliant, give ya the shirt off his back...but he'd rip ya tits off as well if he deemed it necessary for a win...we need that.

[ace]

Under the leadership of RTB any d**khead behaviour will ne snuffed out, or even better re directed towards his footy.

Kids grow up.

Remember what you were like at 17....(and if we had have had phones, internet and cameras everywhere)

That's 54 years ago.
How am I supposed to remember that far back.
I only remember the really good stuff.

[Waltzing St Kilda]

Memo to recruiting department.

If you want another steal at next year's draft, spread a rumour online that the bloke got intimate with a goat.

[Scollop]

My post wasn't looking to highlight that Arie is a dhead. I don't know the kid...same as I don't know Curnow...or De Goey or Dustin Martin

All misbehaved as teenagers...but we know what they're capable of on the field

Dusty Martin, Charlie Curnow, Arie Shuey

Fingers crossed

[Scollop]

Charlie Curnow was linked to Melbourne at pick 3, and Essendon at picks 4 & 5, even Carlton at picks 8 & 11.
Carlton finally took him at pick 30.
Yes pick 30 ...

They took Harry McKay at 10 if I recall correctly...

I think Carlton took Charlie at pick 12..not 30!!

[MC Gusto]

Woooof

How’s the boot on the lad?! If he doesn’t make it with us the nfl will be calling !

[D.B.Cooper]

Epitome of a slider.

Late first early second round talent taken with a throw away pick.

I agree with other posters, we probably weren’t going to use that pick but saw Schoenmaker was still available and thought he was too talented to not grab him.

Even if the rumors are true, I’m not going to hand a 17 yo out to dry, educate and nurture him.

He COULD be an absolute steal in this draft.
He can really kick the ball.

[santazzi]

I’m not sure how we pulled this off?

Clubs too scared to take a kid with potential off field issues but we saw talent where talent is due. Let’s hope Boris turns him into a star.

...and a Saintly belief that all soul, at birth, are endowed with the seeds of redemption.

[spert]

Could be a very handy player going forward. Let's hope those angelic, holier than thou people who are bringing up rumours of his supposed discretions at school, will cheer him on when he plays in winning Saints teams.

[outside66]

The last talented draft prospect that I remember was misbehaving before his draft year ended up a star, even though he was a dhead junior

https://www.afl.com.au/news/201267/top- ... reath-test

Charlie Curnow was linked to Melbourne at pick 3, and Essendon at picks 4 & 5, even Carlton at picks 8 & 11.
Carlton finally took him at pick 30.
Yes pick 30 so talent available to every club
Now every club knows who the real d**kheads were - their recruiting teams.

A player may be a d**khead but that d**khead is one of your players.
Get over him being a d**khead and watch his football.
I am sure Carlton fans watching their d**khead play makes them smile.

Curnow was pick 12 lol

[B.M]

At pick 62

He was a steal

I don’t care if he was shooting ketamine up his arse as a 17yo

If he ends up a Sam Gilbert - giddy up

[Saints58]

Weren't clubs a bit put off by buddy originally as well I guess he turned out to be a reasonable player! Some times you need to take a chance with kids they mature in the right environment.

[saynta]

Me suspects they did not intend to take 5 picks but when they realised that Schoenmaker was still on the board they pounced.

I think the nail in the coffin for Dmac.

Never thought we'd pick 5 players this year.

Still have two slots available

[SAINT-LEE]

Me suspects they did not intend to take 5 picks but when they realised that Schoenmaker was still on the board they pounced.

In German the "E" immediately after the "O" indicates there should be an umlaut on the O converting the sound to "ur" as in Danke Schoen, the Sch sound like "sh"
so in German sounds like Shurnmarker but usually anglicized as Showenmaker

I had a friend pronounced his name:

Sk-on-mocker. It was odd. He was a german immigrant, only here a few weeks when we first met. I wondered if it was his accent trying to say english? Or my ears?

[older saint]

That makes 37 senior players plus 2 rookie B and 4 rookie A for a total of 43 players.
The club is now limited to 1 more rookie A
I suspect they decided to grab Schoenmaker in the main draft than let him go into the rookie draft where St Kilda would miss him.
That probably means they will not take anyone in the rookie draft saving the last rookie A position for a train-on supplemental selection.

McKenzie would hope that would be him, other train-on players would want that place but what is the status of the Sandringham rookie agreement.

Agree with the above

No rush now and as passed on next pick there is no one else specifically they want at this stage.
If McKenzie comes up bonus, if not options aplenty

[Saintmatt]

Weren't clubs a bit put off by buddy originally as well I guess he turned out to be a reasonable player! Some times you need to take a chance with kids they mature in the right environment.

Clubs were massively put off by Jack Darling's apparently loose behaviour as a junior too. Can't think WCE wouldn't have liked that info getting out about him.