It is off season
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Re: It is off season
better question might be why did only one team want billings and half his salary? hmm.
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Re: It is off season
pity bm wasn't dodoro. would have traded us a first rounder!
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Re: It is off season
Pity this thread drifted into the negative, once again, when all Tony was doing was highlighting a positive ie some players training at the club during their off season and in particular the very good news that one of those players was Tim Membrey.
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Re: It is off season
100% agree!66Iwasthere wrote: ↑Sat 21 Oct 2023 1:13pm Pity this thread drifted into the negative, once again, when all Tony was doing was highlighting a positive ie some players training at the club during their off season and in particular the very good news that one of those players was Tim Membrey.
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Re: It is off season
Exactly.66Iwasthere wrote: ↑Sat 21 Oct 2023 1:13pm Pity this thread drifted into the negative, once again, when all Tony was doing was highlighting a positive ie some players training at the club during their off season and in particular the very good news that one of those players was Tim Membrey.
There are two other Billiigs threads yet serial bores choose to hijack this one.
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Re: It is off season
Ahhh….good ole Martin
Still p!ssed Tony actually has a club connection and he’s stuck out in wannabe land lol
He was going to tie billing’s up in RSEA basement till he came to his senses and decided to stay and fight his way back into 22 …
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Still p!ssed Tony actually has a club connection and he’s stuck out in wannabe land lol
He was going to tie billing’s up in RSEA basement till he came to his senses and decided to stay and fight his way back into 22 …
Delusional
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Re: It is off season
Just in case you have waded through the thread this far Tony.
Thanks heaps for the info, it's appreciated and I guessed Jack wasn't needed after he demonstrated he wasn't 100% committed enough to do what is required for our endeavour of success and I am elated that Skunk was training.
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Re: It is off season
Reckon the 4 year extension would’ve been a trade off to get his money reduced…was probably on 700-750K previously
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Re: It is off season
With all due respect (or none of it in this case) … were you dropped on the head as a child? More than once?
I don’t think anyone particularly likes their club paying players to play elsewhere however, it’s become a bit of a necessary evil.
In any case, can I please get your take on Collingwood paying >$1M in total this season for Treloar and Grundy to not play for them?
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Re: It is off season
Just cherry picking one part of the equation.
Actually saving $250k/year and removing a bad apple from the barrel. JB is not suddenly going to become a gut running tackling machine fully focused on a role and ice cold shot for goal. Melbourne are the ones that bought the pup.
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Re: It is off season
When you’ve been a Sainter as long as me nothing surprises. All good Saintsational-I have a thick hide
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Re: It is off season
Very grateful for starting this thread Tony74, hope that you're able to give us a weekly report of what's happening at Moorabbin during the off-season, it'll help to deal with withdrawal symptoms when it all ends on the last Saturday in September.
Maybe there are other supporters who attend training sessions that will also contribute....
Maybe there are other supporters who attend training sessions that will also contribute....
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Re: It is off season
Yep
Paying players to play elsewhere- good list management eh?!
Now JB is a bad apple? I mean seriously- that is a load of s*** and a distinct lack of respect for a 155 gamer!!!
As being ‘jealous’ of Tony
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I see it for what it is and call it out which upsets apologists!!!
Paying players to play elsewhere- good list management eh?!
Now JB is a bad apple? I mean seriously- that is a load of s*** and a distinct lack of respect for a 155 gamer!!!
As being ‘jealous’ of Tony
I’m no fanboy - *Mod Edit - Inappropriate comment removed
I see it for what it is and call it out which upsets apologists!!!
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Re: It is off season
Saintmike65, if Biilings had been on a contract worth $750 a year, then it showed the true state of our list. A reasonably good player getting paid like a superstar.
Gresham had been on similar money, and Coffield rumoured to have been on $600k.
I just hope that salaries can reflect true value in future. The only way for that to happen is that some genuine stars emerge.
So in 2023, Billings, Gresham, and Coffield cost us roughly about $1.8 million. Amazing, isn't it?
I wish I was an average AFL footballer.
Gresham had been on similar money, and Coffield rumoured to have been on $600k.
I just hope that salaries can reflect true value in future. The only way for that to happen is that some genuine stars emerge.
So in 2023, Billings, Gresham, and Coffield cost us roughly about $1.8 million. Amazing, isn't it?
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Re: It is off season
None of those salaries are correct - or even close
And why are we trying to have room in our cap for this season - or any season in fact
We can’t bring in anyone of any note now
I can’t see how paying under your cap for any season is beneficial
The cap is there to level the playing field
And why are we trying to have room in our cap for this season - or any season in fact
We can’t bring in anyone of any note now
I can’t see how paying under your cap for any season is beneficial
The cap is there to level the playing field
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Re: It is off season
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Re: It is off season
This thread is about St Kilda players having a kick down at the ground - not about Billings.B.M wrote: ↑Sun 22 Oct 2023 8:48pm Yep
Paying players to play elsewhere- good list management eh?!
Now JB is a bad apple? I mean seriously- that is a load of s*** and a distinct lack of respect for a 155 gamer!!!
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Re: It is off season
I'm glad you admit you don't understand the complexities.B.M wrote: ↑Sun 22 Oct 2023 9:29pm None of those salaries are correct - or even close
And why are we trying to have room in our cap for this season - or any season in fact
We can’t bring in anyone of any note now
I can’t see how paying under your cap for any season is beneficial
The cap is there to level the playing field
Now for the next step- assume our experienced management team do.
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Re: It is off season
Is that the experienced management team that thought bringing in Hannebery was a good idea?nostalgicsaint wrote: ↑Mon 23 Oct 2023 7:16amI'm glad you admit you don't understand the complexities.B.M wrote: ↑Sun 22 Oct 2023 9:29pm None of those salaries are correct - or even close
And why are we trying to have room in our cap for this season - or any season in fact
We can’t bring in anyone of any note now
I can’t see how paying under your cap for any season is beneficial
The cap is there to level the playing field
Now for the next step- assume our experienced management team do.
Or the newly minted EGM who in a previous role thought Luke Ball was only good for 6 minutes at a time!
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Re: It is off season
gotta love the offseason. poor bm. not sure if he has realised ross was paid less than billings - that's been rectified. should be jubilant.
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Re: It is off season
Im really glad Billings trade happened...if it didnt we wouldn't have anything to talk about right now. Let the fun begin....big news everyone we've paid Demons to take next years brownlow medallist...
Big news everyone we've finally dumped the game saboteur, squib king....weep or dance.
Big news everyone we've finally dumped the game saboteur, squib king....weep or dance.
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Re: It is off season
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Now JB is a bad apple? I mean seriously- that is a load of s*** and a distinct lack of respect for a 155 gamer!!!
Attitude. Bad. Not a team player.
BM are you saying you would like to be in the trenches with JB. Great until there is pressure or bit tired. Yes, I don't respect him as a footballer now he has used the club and bailed when the heat is on.
Now JB is a bad apple? I mean seriously- that is a load of s*** and a distinct lack of respect for a 155 gamer!!!
Attitude. Bad. Not a team player.
BM are you saying you would like to be in the trenches with JB. Great until there is pressure or bit tired. Yes, I don't respect him as a footballer now he has used the club and bailed when the heat is on.
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Re: It is off season
I would like to ask my fellow esteemed Saintsationlists, does the AFL bring any of its gentle persuasive powers to bare during protracted trade negotiations that are threatening to end in a no-win stalemate?
In other words, it seems to me that JB, like all players , is an asset of the AFL franchise and it is within the AFLs interests, to keep him viable and in the news.
And that extends to adding a little weight to the palm of the hand about the ink a deal.
I suspect the AFL weighed in on the last day of the trade and said, ‘Hurry up and do it Saints’ ‘Remember who you are!’
In other words, it seems to me that JB, like all players , is an asset of the AFL franchise and it is within the AFLs interests, to keep him viable and in the news.
And that extends to adding a little weight to the palm of the hand about the ink a deal.
I suspect the AFL weighed in on the last day of the trade and said, ‘Hurry up and do it Saints’ ‘Remember who you are!’
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