Mass exodus

[happy feet]

I thought Lyon was brought in because the review suggested THIS list was under performing

Not to do a rebuild

4 year contract suggests rebuild.

Comments made by Lyon include:

"Our TPP is equal to Geelongs but without the flag"


"Gil told me not to be in a hurry and take the time to rebuild"


And the comment in his pressure after the loss in the final about "clearly we are rebuilding."

Being done very covertly so as to not scare the sponsors and members away.

A tough couple of seasons ahead though, don't think we will see finals for the next season or two.

Can we hold you to this prediction or will the goal posts shift as it has with the accuracy of BMs mass exodus?

Scollop will let you know in 10 years time if my POV is factual or not...I have already forgotten what my POV was

I have not forgotten your promise to put $10,000 on the bar.

Sorry I don’t remember

I do and so do others.

[B.M]

Basset said straight out

Coaching change was made because the review suggested this list was capable of more.

Lyon was brought into to maximise the list

Last time he tried to rebuild he was sacked at Freo

[magnifisaint]

Lyon is the best coach St Kilda has had bar Jeans. He will get the machine going.

[CQ SAINT]

Basset said straight out

Coaching change was made because the review suggested this list was capable of more.

Lyon was brought into to maximise the list

Last time he tried to rebuild he was sacked at Freo

You've convinced yourself of things that didn't happen BM.

Lyon didn't study the list. He just knew they had runners.

Bassett said that a different leadership was needed to bring long term success to a program that would compete with the best.

The review said, the list profile was in a good spot, as many young key players had not reached their prime but the list needed improvement at the top end.

The three players who left were all being paid too much and not producing enough. They are gone because they wanted to leave and they all took less money.

The anti-Lyon narrative e you are selling is just plain stupid.

[Vortex]

Lyon is a good coach when he has a list that can execute.

Pretty much sums up many good AFL coaches.

Biggest challenge Lyon has is the club he coaches at.

Imagine him at Collingwood, Richmond or Geelong.

He will fail if the club can't get him the players needed to challenge.

[Zed]

10 players listed as leaving in the original post.
6 /10 correct is a pass, although not a strong pass. I’m not sure many others here would have picked better if we had to pick 10 players before the delist & trade season started.
I could believe that all the others (bar Alison perhaps) were given the option of leaving if they wanted to, so in hindsight kudos for the original post.

[nostalgicsaint]

10 players listed as leaving in the original post.
6 /10 correct is a pass, although not a strong pass. I’m not sure many others here would have picked better if we had to pick 10 players before the delist & trade season started.
I could believe that all the others (bar Alison perhaps) were given the option of leaving if they wanted to, so in hindsight kudos for the original post.

6/10 might be a pass but factor in it was stated as fact and it looks poor.

[markp]

6/10 might be a pass but factor in it was stated as fact and it looks poor.

Partial Mass Exodus.

[SaintWiki]

Some of the childish tit-for-tat stuff about the coach gives the impression some people need a nappy change IMHO.

[CQ SAINT]

Melbourne would have been better off giving Bytel a go. Lol how did he go in trade week?

[The Fireman]

Mini mass exodus?

[CQ SAINT]

Mass debate.

[Killa]

I predict there will be a mass exodus at the end of 2024, starting with Max King joining his brother, Hill, Wood, Webster, Allison, Howard, Stocker, Van Ess, Keeler among others

How smart am I?

[Killa]

And I forgot Ross

[The Fireman]

I predict there will be a mass exodus at the end of 2024, starting with Max King joining his brother, Hill, Wood, Webster, Allison, Howard, Stocker, Van Ess, Keeler among others

How smart am I?

Depends…do you have a PhD?

[Ghost Like]

I predict there will be a mass exodus at the end of 2024, starting with Max King joining his brother, Hill, Wood, Webster, Allison, Howard, Stocker, Van Ess, Keeler among others

How smart am I?

Your final question, on its own, suggests, not very. You do seem to have some insight but I do hope a lot of that insight fails you.

I do hope Killa that the brothers do reunite but in RW&B. I would also hope Hill, Stocker & Wood continue. As I also hope Van Es & Keeler remain at the club.

[Mr Magic]

I predict there will be a mass exodus at the end of 2024, starting with Max King joining his brother, Hill, Wood, Webster, Allison, Howard, Stocker, Van Ess, Keeler among others

How smart am I?

Your final question, on its own, suggests, not very. You do seem to have some insight but I do hope a lot of that insight fails you.

I do hope Killa that the brothers do reunite but in RW&B. I would also hope Hill, Stocker & Wood continue. As I also hope Van Es & Keeler remain at the club.

I believe the post was sarcastic

[B.M]

Out ATM

Gresham FA
Billings Trade
Coffield Trade

Bytel Delist
Adams Delist
Connolly Delist
Peris Delist

Yet to be contracted
McKenzie
Highmore
Paton


Not sure what is happening with Membrey?

[Teflon]

Basset said straight out

Coaching change was made because the review suggested this list was capable of more.

Lyon was brought into to maximise the list

Last time he tried to rebuild he was sacked at Freo

You've convinced yourself of things that didn't happen BM.

Lyon didn't study the list. He just knew they had runners.

Bassett said that a different leadership was needed to bring long term success to a program that would compete with the best.

The review said, the list profile was in a good spot, as many young key players had not reached their prime but the list needed improvement at the top end.

The three players who left were all being paid too much and not producing enough. They are gone because they wanted to leave and they all took less money.

The anti-Lyon narrative e you are selling is just plain stupid.

Spot on CQ
Bassatt and the Board knew the list was ok but also (and he’s stated it multiple times since) also stuck in no man’s land
The Board FINALLY realised the Ratcho years had been spinning them cr@p on how good this list was, how were “in the window “ (just absolute rot to keep their coaching jobs
Bassat (I think Blake and some of those closer to the footy) stop buying the nonsense and got serious
The spin BM puts out is boorish drivel

[Teflon]

Interesting hearing Misson interview recently where he states the club is really happy with its TPP abd that it “enables us to be do something really interesting in next few years…”
Think we are lining for serious FA assault..
If so clearing Gresham Billing’s Coffield and putting a few on 1 year deals indicates the list transformation will continue…
Strategy looks like
1. Keep your 1st round picks to bring in talent
2. Look for low cost value eg Dow with potential high returns
3. Cash-in on FA talent

Holmes from Cats or Duggan be nice
No more overpaying spuds

[Saintmike65]

Melbourne would have been better off giving Bytel a go. Lol how did he go in trade week?

Bytel will likely be picked up as a delisted free agent

[nostalgicsaint]

Interesting hearing Misson interview recently where he states the club is really happy with its TPP abd that it “enables us to be do something really interesting in next few years…”
Think we are lining for serious FA assault..
If so clearing Gresham Billing’s Coffield and putting a few on 1 year deals indicates the list transformation will continue…
Strategy looks like
1. Keep your 1st round picks to bring in talent
2. Look for low cost value eg Dow with potential high returns
3. Cash-in on FA talent

Holmes from Cats or Duggan be nice
No more overpaying spuds

Love our current approach.

For it to be successful we need to do what we did this year and play finals next year.

Then we have a compelling case to bring in free agents.

[Scollop]

We didn't have a mass exodus when you compare all 18 clubs...so far we've had roughly the average number of delistings and loss of players to trades as others

Retirements aside, some of the more mature lists like Melbourne, Brisbane, GWS and Western Bulldogs had less than us

https://www.afl.com.au/news/retirements ... 9.06.41311

[skeptic]

Melbourne would have been better off giving Bytel a go. Lol how did he go in trade week?

Bytel will likely be picked up as a delisted free agent

Is this an inside word opposed to a personal hunch?

If so.. any inkling as to who?

[magnifisaint]

Basset said straight out

Coaching change was made because the review suggested this list was capable of more.

Lyon was brought into to maximise the list

Last time he tried to rebuild he was sacked at Freo

He made the finals this past season. All the experts had St Kilda in the bottom 4.