Dont let Hill Near it today
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Dont let Hill Near it today
I've never been a Hill basher but my word its like he was trying to lose us the game today. I know its not over and Im watching it delayed be has has had as big a stinker as anyone Ive seen today
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
Yes, he was poor today. I was hoping he'd be subbed out, but then Battle had to go off. I think it would have been a good idea to rest him, and perhaps give Billings a run, but that's not Lyon's style.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
Must have been watching another game. Two kicks to the opposition which were both attacking. It would be good if our small forwards ever got in front.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
Coach bash again?meher baba wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:29pm Yes, he was poor today. I was hoping he'd be subbed out, but then Battle had to go off. I think it would have been a good idea to rest him, and perhaps give Billings a run, but that's not Lyon's style.
What’s Billing’s sone to deserve to replace him?????
Easy to say…
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
Not a bash. I just thought that Hill was looking a bit sore in the game against the Cats and that it would be sensible to give an experienced player like Billings a game before the finals, in case we need him then. But I know Lyon doesn't think that way and was fully expecting Hill to be selected tonight and also expected Byrnes to be the sub.Teflon wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:37pmCoach bash again?meher baba wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:29pm Yes, he was poor today. I was hoping he'd be subbed out, but then Battle had to go off. I think it would have been a good idea to rest him, and perhaps give Billings a run, but that's not Lyon's style.
What’s Billing’s sone to deserve to replace him?????
Easy to say…
And I like Lyon's style. Stop being so bloody sensitive. It's like you're married to him or something.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
I call him daddymeher baba wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:42pmNot a bash. I just thought that Hill was looking a bit sore in the game against the Cats and that it would be sensible to give an experienced player like Billings a game before the finals, in case we need him then. But I know Lyon doesn't think that way and was fully expecting Hill to be selected tonight and also expected Byrnes to be the sub.Teflon wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:37pmCoach bash again?meher baba wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:29pm Yes, he was poor today. I was hoping he'd be subbed out, but then Battle had to go off. I think it would have been a good idea to rest him, and perhaps give Billings a run, but that's not Lyon's style.
What’s Billing’s sone to deserve to replace him?????
Easy to say…
And I like Lyon's style. Stop being so bloody sensitive. It's like you're married to him or something.
Don’t be so insensitive
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
Teflon wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:46pmI call him daddymeher baba wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:42pmNot a bash. I just thought that Hill was looking a bit sore in the game against the Cats and that it would be sensible to give an experienced player like Billings a game before the finals, in case we need him then. But I know Lyon doesn't think that way and was fully expecting Hill to be selected tonight and also expected Byrnes to be the sub.Teflon wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:37pmCoach bash again?meher baba wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:29pm Yes, he was poor today. I was hoping he'd be subbed out, but then Battle had to go off. I think it would have been a good idea to rest him, and perhaps give Billings a run, but that's not Lyon's style.
What’s Billing’s sone to deserve to replace him?????
Easy to say…
And I like Lyon's style. Stop being so bloody sensitive. It's like you're married to him or something.
Don’t be so insensitive
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
He was playing nervously today - he struggles when there in a high pressure games.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
I agree with impatient sainter, Hill doesn’t perform when there’s real heat in a game!
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
meher baba wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:42pmNot a bash. I just thought that Hill was looking a bit sore in the game against the Cats and that it would be sensible to give an experienced player like Billings a game before the finals, in case we need him then. But I know Lyon doesn't think that way and was fully expecting Hill to be selected tonight and also expected Byrnes to be the sub.Teflon wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:37pmCoach bash again?meher baba wrote: ↑Sat 26 Aug 2023 8:29pm Yes, he was poor today. I was hoping he'd be subbed out, but then Battle had to go off. I think it would have been a good idea to rest him, and perhaps give Billings a run, but that's not Lyon's style.
What’s Billing’s sone to deserve to replace him?????
Easy to say…
And I like Lyon's style. Stop being so bloody sensitive. It's like you're married to him or something.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
This thread wouldn’t exist if it was only a ‘couple of clangers’
Hill had 7 turnovers. The most out of any Saint.
That’s putrid for a guy who only had 17 disposals, but it’s not just that. He’s easily the highest paid player on the list.
The problem is that he just ‘turns up’. There remains this idea that if he can stand up he plays.
I’m sure that after he had a knee issue it affected him. He should have been rested for a couple of extra games. Including this one which was going to be a monumental task to beat them on their home patch.
Everyone acknowledges it isn’t easy to sit in a plane and sit in airport lounges and sit in buses for interstate trips. It’s worse when you’re having niggles or you’re an older player.
Hill only won the ball 3 times against Brisbane. The rest of his possessions are uncontested.
Anyone can play his role when the vast majority of the time he receives the footy (ok…so not anyone, but we do have options)
Dropping and ‘managing’ some of your best players will give them a jolt (mentally) and make them sharper when they return.
It’s too late to forcibly drop anyone right now, but for next year, I hope they put in place a policy of managing some of the older guys…especially on the interstate trips.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
So scollop old bean, you are not a fan of Brad?
Lot of words to say that.
Like the idea of dropping players based on their pay packet/disposals ratio. Could require a more complex algorithm. Determining how much a player should get paid at season's end might work. What could go wrong.
Lot of words to say that.
Like the idea of dropping players based on their pay packet/disposals ratio. Could require a more complex algorithm. Determining how much a player should get paid at season's end might work. What could go wrong.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
Top 5 important player on our list, most finals experience.
Off the back of a pretty serious knee tweak, needed the run but needed to come out of the game healthy.
Gets a pass from me.
Off the back of a pretty serious knee tweak, needed the run but needed to come out of the game healthy.
Gets a pass from me.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
Why ask a question if you are just not interested in a response ...you seem to have made up your mind...with the wrong answer mind youYorkeys wrote: ↑Mon 28 Aug 2023 10:52pm So scollop old bean, you are not a fan of Brad?
Lot of words to say that.
Like the idea of dropping players based on their pay packet/disposals ratio. Could require a more complex algorithm. Determining how much a player should get paid at season's end might work. What could go wrong.
How many times have you given votes to Hill this year in matches in the Saintsational Player of the year award? I'll bet you NOT more than me
Have a look at some of the voting threads over this year and last year. Do a search with my posts that include 'Brad Hill' and you'll see that I rate him very highly.
As for my comment re. his salary. It's relevant. We expect more and we expect consistently high performance from our highest paid. Algorithms and other bs is irrelevant.
Sometimes you write stuff and it's eloquent and logical and the words are like poetry...and then you write crap like the post above and you let yourself down
I know it's late. Maybe just take your medication and think next time before you post.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
Agree with this.
Hill, perhaps more than any other on our list delivers value that isn't necessarily reflected in statistics.
Unfortunately statistics as much as they can deliver insights are also quite capable of arming fools with enough knowledge to be dangerous.
Disraeli is spot on when it comes to stats.
Disclaimer: posts are my views and shouldn't be taken as fact, even if I am in fact right.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
one of our best players, i cringe at times when I see fellow supporters under value some of the talent we have.
Sharman is another eg.
Sharman is another eg.
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Re: Dont let Hill Near it today
Definitely one of our most important players, but he'd be disappointed with his performance against Brisbane.
Hopefully he's ready to tear up the MCG wings once again next Saturday.
Hopefully he's ready to tear up the MCG wings once again next Saturday.