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Re: Four frees

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CURLY wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023 7:30am
Scollop wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023 5:02am
You’re Wrong

There were some pisspoor decisions by the umpires in the third quarter and several missed frees that weren’t paid to us but the Quaynor mark against Owens in that first half was fair.
It was in the last clear push.

The missed free to Windhager cost a goal.

The blatant in the back on Battle allowed a mark and goal.

Pendles Daicos Elliot run down multiple times

Collingwood got a dream run.
Obviously, you like to watch the footy with one eye

And…as I said, the umpires made poor decisions but there were a few frees paid to us that were dubious.

The first goal of the match to Crouch in the goal square was a 50/50 holding the ball and the umpire called it our way.


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Scollop wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023 9:03am
CURLY wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023 7:30am
Scollop wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023 5:02am
You’re Wrong

There were some pisspoor decisions by the umpires in the third quarter and several missed frees that weren’t paid to us but the Quaynor mark against Owens in that first half was fair.
It was in the last clear push.

The missed free to Windhager cost a goal.

The blatant in the back on Battle allowed a mark and goal.

Pendles Daicos Elliot run down multiple times

Collingwood got a dream run.
Obviously, you like to watch the footy with one eye

And…as I said, the umpires made poor decisions but there were a few frees paid to us that were dubious.

The first goal of the match to Crouch in the goal square was a 50/50 holding the ball and the umpire called it our way.
I think 50/50 is being generous, that's a ball-up every day of the week!

Then our second goal from a 50 metre penalty!

But Curly obviously missed the first quarter, so that's probably why he's so upset.


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Re: Four frees

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023 9:40am
Scollop wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023 9:03am
CURLY wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023 7:30am
Scollop wrote: Wed 19 Apr 2023 5:02am
You’re Wrong

There were some pisspoor decisions by the umpires in the third quarter and several missed frees that weren’t paid to us but the Quaynor mark against Owens in that first half was fair.
It was in the last clear push.

The missed free to Windhager cost a goal.

The blatant in the back on Battle allowed a mark and goal.

Pendles Daicos Elliot run down multiple times

Collingwood got a dream run.
Obviously, you like to watch the footy with one eye

And…as I said, the umpires made poor decisions but there were a few frees paid to us that were dubious.

The first goal of the match to Crouch in the goal square was a 50/50 holding the ball and the umpire called it our way.
I think 50/50 is being generous, that's a ball-up every day of the week!

Then our second goal from a 50 metre penalty!

But Curly obviously missed the first quarter, so that's probably why he's so upset.

The free in the square was there and they payed one against Marshall who had less time.

The 50 again was awarded correctly whats the issue?

Pendles caught Stocker and the players actually stopped it was so obvious. Battle shoved fair in the back and Owens both cost goals.


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Re: Four frees

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CURLY wrote: Sun 16 Apr 2023 8:57pm Four frees in a half is this the reward for being a good team?

Absolutely disgusting bias and a clear set of two rules.
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Re: Four frees

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 11:35am
CURLY wrote: Sun 16 Apr 2023 8:57pm Four frees in a half is this the reward for being a good team?

Absolutely disgusting bias and a clear set of two rules.
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Correct then and correct now cost us a game.


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CURLY wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 12:42pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 11:35am
CURLY wrote: Sun 16 Apr 2023 8:57pm Four frees in a half is this the reward for being a good team?

Absolutely disgusting bias and a clear set of two rules.
🙈
Correct then and correct now cost us a game.
4 frees in a half, imagine if we only got 5 for a whole game!

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Re: Four frees

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 3:20pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 12:42pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 11:35am
CURLY wrote: Sun 16 Apr 2023 8:57pm Four frees in a half is this the reward for being a good team?

Absolutely disgusting bias and a clear set of two rules.
🙈
Correct then and correct now cost us a game.
4 frees in a half, imagine if we only got 5 for a whole game!

🙊
Yep and we won easily.


Four in a half in an even game and we lose by a goal.


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Re: Four frees

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This season

Frees for 422
Frees against 332

Easily the best positive ratio of frees for and against in the competition.

Last season when our ratio was negative in frees for and against there was a weekly cumulative post showing the disparity as proof of bias and the Umpires cheating against us.

Surprisingly this weekly update has disappeared this season, but now it is not the amount of frees its where you get them that matters and the umpires are still biased and cheating against us.

Dear oh Dear :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Four frees

Post: # 2027407Post meher baba »

If people stop posting on this thread, it will soon disappear down the list and we'll never have to think about it ever again.

(And yes, I'm aware of the irony/hypocrisy or whatever.)
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Re: Four frees

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D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 6:24pm This season

Frees for 422
Frees against 332

Easily the best positive ratio of frees for and against in the competition.

Last season when our ratio was negative in frees for and against there was a weekly cumulative post showing the disparity as proof of bias and the Umpires cheating against us.

Surprisingly this weekly update has disappeared this season, but now it is not the amount of frees its where you get them that matters and the umpires are still biased and cheating against us.

Dear oh Dear :lol: :lol: :lol:
About fkn time as we have been screwed for years


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Re: Four frees

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D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 6:24pm This season

Frees for 422
Frees against 332

Easily the best positive ratio of frees for and against in the competition.

Last season when our ratio was negative in frees for and against there was a weekly cumulative post showing the disparity as proof of bias and the Umpires cheating against us.

Surprisingly this weekly update has disappeared this season, but now it is not the amount of frees its where you get them that matters and the umpires are still biased and cheating against us.

Dear oh Dear :lol: :lol: :lol:
It disappeared this year because I couldn't give a f*** about keeping the unwashed informed. No other reason.


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Re: Four frees

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D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 6:24pm This season

Frees for 422
Frees against 332

Easily the best positive ratio of frees for and against in the competition.

Last season when our ratio was negative in frees for and against there was a weekly cumulative post showing the disparity as proof of bias and the Umpires cheating against us.

Surprisingly this weekly update has disappeared this season, but now it is not the amount of frees its where you get them that matters and the umpires are still biased and cheating against us.

Dear oh Dear :lol: :lol: :lol:

Amazing the very same players who got labelled as sloppy and undisciplined are now not.

Or is that Lyons profile and media friends will call out the s*** we have copped for years.


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Re: Four frees

Post: # 2027430Post The_Dud »

20 frees to 5!

+85 on the year!!

3rd best run any team has had with the umps in the last decade!!!

“We’re not biased, we just want fair umpiring”

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 3:20pm
CURLY wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 12:42pm
The_Dud wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 11:35am
CURLY wrote: Sun 16 Apr 2023 8:57pm Four frees in a half is this the reward for being a good team?

Absolutely disgusting bias and a clear set of two rules.
🙈
Correct then and correct now cost us a game.
4 frees in a half, imagine if we only got 5 for a whole game!

🙊
Imagine if the team that got only 5 free kicks last week sent their main forward to surgery in season and then dropped their second main goal kicker

One might think they were disheartened and uninterested in laying tackles and doing the things to earn a free


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CURLY wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 7:02pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 6:24pm This season

Frees for 422
Frees against 332

Easily the best positive ratio of frees for and against in the competition.

Last season when our ratio was negative in frees for and against there was a weekly cumulative post showing the disparity as proof of bias and the Umpires cheating against us.

Surprisingly this weekly update has disappeared this season, but now it is not the amount of frees its where you get them that matters and the umpires are still biased and cheating against us.

Dear oh Dear :lol: :lol: :lol:

Amazing the very same players who got labelled as sloppy and undisciplined are now not.

Or is that Lyons profile and media friends will call out the s*** we have copped for years.
WTF is that drivel?

Hope you are wearing a bib you old dribbler.

The point is we are getting a dream run with the umpires, the best in the competition this season yet some still maintain the umpires are biased and cheat against.

Can’t posters just enjoy the dream run we are getting from the umpires?


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saynta wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 7:00pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 6:24pm This season

Frees for 422
Frees against 332

Easily the best positive ratio of frees for and against in the competition.

Last season when our ratio was negative in frees for and against there was a weekly cumulative post showing the disparity as proof of bias and the Umpires cheating against us.

Surprisingly this weekly update has disappeared this season, but now it is not the amount of frees its where you get them that matters and the umpires are still biased and cheating against us.

Dear oh Dear :lol: :lol: :lol:
It disappeared this year because I couldn't give a f*** about keeping the unwashed informed. No other reason.
What is the bet if we were 332 for and 422 against it would be front and center every week with the associated bitching and moaning.

Let’s just lap up the dream run we are having.
I don’t know why the umps are favoring us, but let’s hope it continues.

We’re obviously their favorite team at the moment, or has the AFL pivoted and are now instructing the umpires to cheat with the saints as the major beneficiary?

It could be a conspiracy 😉


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I'm loving it. Part of the issue is that our crowd have gotten louder, that influences things. Part is that we are becoming known for being hard-running and high pressure,lots of tackles, those sort of things undoubtedly cause unconscious bias in umpires, they are after all, vaguely human.......

Personally I am just enjoying on the right side of the ledger for a change...and I have seen us be awarded some VERY soft frees this year for some reason. And even the Cats game, we got away without a couple of frees not being paid against us that I thought were obvious. We definitely got the rub of the green. Enjoy it while it lasts.........


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Just for the record from 2010 to 2023 (14 years) we have only been positive on the free kick ledger 3 times - 2023, 2017 & 2012 ..... so 11 years in the negative


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Devilhead wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 11:15pm Just for the record from 2010 to 2023 (14 years) we have only been positive on the free kick ledger 3 times - 2023, 2017 & 2012 ..... so 11 years in the negative
Going by that, I predict it won't happen again until 2030. Enjoy it while it lasts.


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Devilhead wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 11:15pm Just for the record from 2010 to 2023 (14 years) we have only been positive on the free kick ledger 3 times - 2023, 2017 & 2012 ..... so 11 years in the negative
That post is just a little misleading, you can make stats look any way you want I guess.

We were positive in 2007, 2008, 2009 & 2010 we broke even.

So we have been negative 10 times in 17 seasons.

It really seems to be the Ross Lyon factor, as soon as he steps into the coaches box we get a good go from the umpires.

Personally I think you have good and bad runs with the umps, and the more irrelevant you are as a club the less likely you are to get a good run.

As it stands so far in 2023, anyone who can’t see how well we are being looked after is potentially blind.

Long May the good run continue!


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Post: # 2027500Post The_Dud »

I just can't understand why a lopsided free kick count against us is "disgusting bias! Sets of two rules! Clear evidence they're CHEATS!!", yet a lopsided free kick count in our favour doesn't even rate a mention with the same people who are apparently so concerned with even and fair umpiring, "nothing to see here!"

Anyone have a possible explanation? 🤷‍♂️


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 9:34pm
saynta wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 7:00pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 6:24pm This season

Frees for 422
Frees against 332

Easily the best positive ratio of frees for and against in the competition.

Last season when our ratio was negative in frees for and against there was a weekly cumulative post showing the disparity as proof of bias and the Umpires cheating against us.

Surprisingly this weekly update has disappeared this season, but now it is not the amount of frees its where you get them that matters and the umpires are still biased and cheating against us.

Dear oh Dear :lol: :lol: :lol:
It disappeared this year because I couldn't give a f*** about keeping the unwashed informed. No other reason.
What is the bet if we were 332 for and 422 against it would be front and center every week with the associated bitching and moaning.

😉
You have a problem with english comprehension?

As I said "It disappeared this year because I couldn't give a f*** about keeping the unwashed informed. No other reason."


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saynta wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 11:51am
D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 9:34pm
saynta wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 7:00pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 6:24pm This season

Frees for 422
Frees against 332

Easily the best positive ratio of frees for and against in the competition.

Last season when our ratio was negative in frees for and against there was a weekly cumulative post showing the disparity as proof of bias and the Umpires cheating against us.

Surprisingly this weekly update has disappeared this season, but now it is not the amount of frees its where you get them that matters and the umpires are still biased and cheating against us.

Dear oh Dear :lol: :lol: :lol:
It disappeared this year because I couldn't give a f*** about keeping the unwashed informed. No other reason.
What is the bet if we were 332 for and 422 against it would be front and center every week with the associated bitching and moaning.

😉
You have a problem with english comprehension?

As I said "It disappeared this year because I couldn't give a f*** about keeping the unwashed informed. No other reason."
No comprehension problem at all saynta!

I’m just calling bulls*** on your explanation.


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D.B.Cooper wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 7:10pm
saynta wrote: Thu 24 Aug 2023 11:51am
D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 9:34pm
saynta wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 7:00pm
D.B.Cooper wrote: Wed 23 Aug 2023 6:24pm This season

Frees for 422
Frees against 332

Easily the best positive ratio of frees for and against in the competition.

Last season when our ratio was negative in frees for and against there was a weekly cumulative post showing the disparity as proof of bias and the Umpires cheating against us.

Surprisingly this weekly update has disappeared this season, but now it is not the amount of frees its where you get them that matters and the umpires are still biased and cheating against us.

Dear oh Dear :lol: :lol: :lol:
It disappeared this year because I couldn't give a f*** about keeping the unwashed informed. No other reason.
What is the bet if we were 332 for and 422 against it would be front and center every week with the associated bitching and moaning.

😉
You have a problem with english comprehension?

As I said "It disappeared this year because I couldn't give a f*** about keeping the unwashed informed. No other reason."
No comprehension problem at all saynta!

I’m just calling bulls*** on your explanation.
And the correct answer is “because it doesn’t suit the agenda I’ve been trying to push for the last few seasons”!

There, did it for ya Saynta 😁


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Post: # 2027596Post saynta »

You are both wrong.

There was an obvious bias against us last year, not so this year, but anyway as I said I couldn't be f***ed keeping a running tally just to keep dropkicks informed.

End of story . Move on FFS, nothing to see here. :roll: :roll:


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