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Re: Who do we rest?

Post: # 2026810Post magnifisaint »

Banger9798 wrote: Sun 20 Aug 2023 6:33pm Rested:
Hill, Phillipou, Sharman, Marshall, Ross

In:
Billings, Caminiti, Hayes, Campbell , Clark
You know that is not possible!


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Re: Who do we rest?

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Banger9798 wrote: Sun 20 Aug 2023 6:33pm Rested:
Hill, Phillipou, Sharman, Marshall, Ross

In:
Billings, Caminiti, Hayes, Campbell , Clark
Out:
A chance of a home final


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Post: # 2026877Post The G Train Legacy »

We're perfectly capable of beating Brisbane. Still playing for a home final, are running into really good form, its no time to put the cue in the rack.


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Re: Who do we rest?

Post: # 2026890Post Banger9798 »

Likely to be playing Sydney at home anyway.

Better off resting a couple of prime movers vs Brions and try and actually win the final.


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Re: Who do we rest?

Post: # 2026942Post Scollop »

I reckon Sharman and Pou should get a week off. Both looked sore.

I'd be giving Brad Hill a week off too.

Play RoMa for half his usual game minutes and same goes for Michito, Mason Wood, Terry Millera's boy, our 2 All Australian Jacks and the other Bradley

Trust the game plan and the system and structures and bring in some fresh players to bust their arse for the cause.


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Post: # 2026945Post Saint2 »

I can't see Lyon changing much- we don't want to go into the finals after a flogging in the last game


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Scollop wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 6:21am I reckon Sharman and Pou should get a week off. Both looked sore.

I'd be giving Brad Hill a week off too.

Play RoMa for half his usual game minutes and same goes for Michito, Mason Wood, Terry Millera's boy, our 2 All Australian Jacks and the other Bradley

Trust the game plan and the system and structures and bring in some fresh players to bust their arse for the cause.
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Post: # 2026961Post perfectionist »

I would like to see Jack Hayes get a game before the finals. RoMa had it fairly easy on Saturday but that won't be the case this week. After Brad Hill, he is our most important player. I would rest both.


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Post: # 2026967Post Scollop »

The Fireman wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:30am
Scollop wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 6:21am I reckon Sharman and Pou should get a week off. Both looked sore.

I'd be giving Brad Hill a week off too.

Play RoMa for half his usual game minutes and same goes for Michito, Mason Wood, Terry Millera's boy, our 2 All Australian Jacks and the other Bradley

Trust the game plan and the system and structures and bring in some fresh players to bust their arse for the cause.
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Post: # 2026974Post older saint »

No one, unless carrying an injury or really sore that 2 weeks not playing will significantly help.

Reasons:
- Don't mess with Form;
- Week off before finals;
- Ideally want to give yourself the best chance at a home final.
- Have a real belief at the moment and sends a message that we don't believe we can beat Bris away. May not be good enough but players must believe that they can

Apart from injury as stated above would be if it was felt a player will be needed in the finals and benefit from a game - e.g. if say Coffield next cab off the rank and want to at least have some AFL game time if needed?


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Post: # 2026979Post bigcarl »

I think it will be no unforced changes.

Hayes, Coffield first cabs off rank if it’s necessary and structurally feasible.

Home final at stake and you want to take at least competitive form into the finals. Not that this year is really do-or-die imo. Stick to the process .


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Re: Who do we rest?

Post: # 2027014Post remboy »

Don’t rest anyone unless they are injured. You don’t flirt with form. Most players like continuity, if you give them this week off they won’t have played for three weeks going into the final.
Our finals effectively begin this week as far as I’m concerned.


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Banger9798 wrote: Sun 20 Aug 2023 6:33pm Rested:
Hill, Phillipou, Sharman, Marshall, Ross

In:
Billings, Caminiti, Hayes, Campbell , Clark

And if GWS win and go above us on % , how are you going to feel say playing them on their home ground rather than at the MCG just because we rested some players so that the Lions could have a greater winning margin?

Plus if we playa full strength team we could possibly knock off the Lions as their recent form has been ok rather than stellar. Pies were missing some key stars.


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Post: # 2027021Post asiu »

Scollop wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 10:00am
The Fireman wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:30am
Scollop wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 6:21am I reckon Sharman and Pou should get a week off. Both looked sore.

I'd be giving Brad Hill a week off too.

Play RoMa for half his usual game minutes and same goes for Michito, Mason Wood, Terry Millera's boy, our 2 All Australian Jacks and the other Bradley

Trust the game plan and the system and structures and bring in some fresh players to bust their arse for the cause.
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i'd be thinking Ross is keeping the seat warm for Banger
Lendog more the king maker

snatch an unlikely one with Ross early
Banger leads the three peat
the Len steps up for the fourth

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Re: Who do we rest?

Post: # 2027024Post Otiman »

If we can't take it to Brisbane away, we won't be able to take it to Port in Adelaide either.

Expect an away final in week 2 (if we win).


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Post: # 2027027Post saintsRrising »

Banger9798 wrote: Sun 20 Aug 2023 9:19pm

Better off resting a couple of prime movers vs Brions and try and actually win the final.
Resting players for two weeks straight is more likely a disadvantage than an advantage.


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Post: # 2027030Post Trev from the Bush »

The question "who do we rest" troubles me.

The Saints are on an upward spiral heading into the finals. Apart from Seb, we came out of Saturday night intact. Coops sprained his ankle but will be good to go. All players appear to be up an about. Why mess with a winning formula?


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Banger9798 wrote: Sun 20 Aug 2023 6:33pm Rested:
Hill, Phillipou, Sharman, Marshall, Ross

In:
Billings, Caminiti, Hayes, Campbell , Clark
No chance, RL will treat every game like a final. We have been improving every game since some of our seniors have come back quarter by quarter we have improved and last Saturday we put together 4 quarters finaly... why would you want to stop that momentum?


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Post: # 2027121Post The Fireman »

Trev from the Bush wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 4:40pm The question "who do we rest" troubles me.

The Saints are on an upward spiral heading into the finals. Apart from Seb, we came out of Saturday night intact. Coops sprained his ankle but will be good to go. All players appear to be up an about. Why mess with a winning formula?
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Post: # 2027125Post markp »

Maybe give it a rest.


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Post: # 2027132Post StPeter »

perfectionist wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 9:34am I would like to see Jack Hayes get a game before the finals. RoMa had it fairly easy on Saturday but that won't be the case this week. After Brad Hill, he is our most important player. I would rest both.
Brad Hill is more important than Sinclair?
Hmmm not sure what matches you have been watching this year!

But I agree Marshall is maybe, with Sinclair, our most important


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Post: # 2027157Post Sanctorum »

saintsRrising wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 4:12pm
Banger9798 wrote: Sun 20 Aug 2023 9:19pm

Better off resting a couple of prime movers vs Brions and try and actually win the final.
Resting players for two weeks straight is more likely a disadvantage than an advantage.
Fair comment, but I'm wondering if it would be prudent to leave Max King behind as he will be key to winning the elimination final.

I doubt the 2 week rest would have an adverse effect on his performance.

Jack Hayes having kicked 6 goals for Sandringham on the weekend could be worth a try as it will allow the selectors to assess his potential for the following games.

Another left field option for me is to drop Zaine Cordy, switch Tim Membrey to full-back, with the following forward lines:

Higgins-Caminiti-Butler

Gresham-Hayes-Owens

A bit radical, I know, but St Kilda rarely beat Brisbane at the Gabbatoir so may as well explore some alternatives....and make it more difficult for the Lions to work out how to deal with an unpredictable opponent.


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Post: # 2027159Post SaintWiki »

Sanctorum wrote: Tue 22 Aug 2023 3:32pm
saintsRrising wrote: Mon 21 Aug 2023 4:12pm
Banger9798 wrote: Sun 20 Aug 2023 9:19pm

Better off resting a couple of prime movers vs Brions and try and actually win the final.
Resting players for two weeks straight is more likely a disadvantage than an advantage.
Fair comment, but I'm wondering if it would be prudent to leave Max King behind as he will be key to winning the elimination final.

I doubt the 2 week rest would have an adverse effect on his performance.

Jack Hayes having kicked 6 goals for Sandringham on the weekend could be worth a try as it will allow the selectors to assess his potential for the following games.

Another left field option for me is to drop Zaine Cordy, switch Tim Membrey to full-back, with the following forward lines:

Higgins-Caminiti-Butler

Gresham-Hayes-Owens

A bit radical, I know, but St Kilda rarely beat Brisbane at the Gabbatoir so may as well explore some alternatives....and make it more difficult for the Lions to work out how to deal with an unpredictable opponent.
I'm bloody glad I have enough confidence in the selection panel to only make the changes that are necessary.


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Post: # 2027195Post Scollop »

The mistake will be keeping players happy by playing them in this upcoming game against Brisbane, versus doing the best thing for the team and the club's prospects in the first final

I wouldn't be trusting players with the decision. Personally, I would 'manage' 3-4 of my most important players... Take the decision out of their hands.

We have an experienced coach. He'll know what to do

I remember in 2015 (which was the year BEFORE the AFL introduced the pre-finals bye) when Ross dropped 11 of his best players for the last game of home and away.

It worked. They won their first qualifying final. Maybe this time around with the bye for all teams playing finals, he won't need to do what he did in 2015.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/38538/docke ... inal-round


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Post: # 2027196Post SaintWiki »

Scollop wrote: Tue 22 Aug 2023 6:55pm The mistake will be keeping players happy by playing them in this upcoming game against Brisbane, versus doing the best thing for the team and the club's prospects in the first final

I wouldn't be trusting players with the decision. Personally, I would 'manage' 3-4 of my most important players... Take the decision out of their hands.

We have an experienced coach. He'll know what to do

I remember in 2015 (which was the year BEFORE the AFL introduced the bye for all teams playing finals) when Ross dropped 11 of his best players for the last game of home and away.

It worked. They won their first qualifying final

https://www.afl.com.au/news/38538/docke ... inal-round
Well, RL has a history of resting players from memory but that doesn't mean he will do it this time. We'll see. One thing for sure is he won't be guided by supporters ideas, unless the selection committee, who have a lot more information available to them, happen to think the same.


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