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Scollop wrote: ↑Sat 12 Aug 2023 8:08pm
Is Ross Lyon now an expert in talent identification or is that Gubby and SOS's job?
Player development is part of the art of coaching isn't it? Some of our guys just haven't had it in the past.
Last time Ross was involved in culling players from our footy club we threw out a guy who was part of the fabric. Goose McGuire should have been treated better by St Kilda. Great clubman who got dumped at a relatively young age
Yes….cause we’ve done so well since Lyon last left…
Short memory?
Dory might be your new Nic..
If people think he is going to get our club to a Grand Final in the next 4 years their dreaming.
Ross hasn't achieved anything.
Ross will never be handed TWO ready made finals capable and finals experienced lists ever again in his life.
He's an employee. Nothing more.
Your job and his manager's job is to keep promoting the myth behind his legendary coaching talents
Scollop wrote: ↑Sat 12 Aug 2023 8:08pm
Is Ross Lyon now an expert in talent identification or is that Gubby and SOS's job?
Player development is part of the art of coaching isn't it? Some of our guys just haven't had it in the past.
Last time Ross was involved in culling players from our footy club we threw out a guy who was part of the fabric. Goose McGuire should have been treated better by St Kilda. Great clubman who got dumped at a relatively young age
Yes….cause we’ve done so well since Lyon last left…
Short memory?
Dory might be your new Nic..
If people think he is going to get our club to a Grand Final in the next 4 years their dreaming.
Ross hasn't achieved anything.
Ross will never be handed TWO ready made finals capable and finals experienced lists ever again in his life.
He's an employee. Nothing more.
Your job and his manager's job is to keep promoting the myth behind his legendary coaching talents
And that’s why I suggest we need to extend him??
You’re starting to catch on Clyde!!! Nice work
Playing a decent brand of footy and winning games comprehensively will definitely help lure players
It's a pity we had an awful run from round 14 onwards and Carlton started winning and playing well. That period co-incided with TDK signing a 2 year extension to stay with the Blues
I can understand if they get rid of a mid like Steele or Crouch... won't be happy if it's Jack because I think it's a mistake to judge him on just this year...but anyway
I can understand if they get rid of a defender like Howard...or a forward like Membrey because most of these guys we can cover
B.M wrote: ↑Tue 15 Aug 2023 10:13am
If they trade Marshall
It’s worse than McEvoy, Stanley, Hickey by a mile!
Stanley is an A Grade player imo
If they trade Marshal then they have completely lost the plot
Part of me thinks there is no chance they would even entertain such a crazy idea.
The other part of me says it’s St Kilda we are talking about which historically has been very fertile ground for crazy ideas.
Yep. I did a thread a few years back RE all our attempts to recruit a ruck since the late 90s.
The analysis was something to the effect of btw trades, drafting and all other means etc we’ve attempted it 30 times with our best efforts being Marshall off the rookie list, Gardiner essentially a free swing and maybe one or two others.
Reality is… an elite ruck is IMO one of the rarest commodities in football. If you get it, you keep it.
Would have to be a hell of a god father offer to shift my mind
Maybe they will try for Grundy. I'm not sure what that would achieve.
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They’re eating – they are eating the pets of the people that live there.
If we lose Marshall for a first round pick or a trade deal to land Parish or another quality mid, then we need a first ruck. Grundy fits the bill. He was All Australian ruckman in 2018 and 2019.
If no one wants him, Grundy will probably end up being the most expensive player in the VFL next year and will probably retire after that.
With Mason Cox getting on in years, there's also the possibility of Grundy going back to Collingwood
B.M wrote: ↑Tue 15 Aug 2023 10:13am
If they trade Marshall
It’s worse than McEvoy, Stanley, Hickey by a mile!
Stanley is an A Grade player imo
If they trade Marshal then they have completely lost the plot
Part of me thinks there is no chance they would even entertain such a crazy idea.
The other part of me says it’s St Kilda we are talking about which historically has been very fertile ground for crazy ideas.
Yep. I did a thread a few years back RE all our attempts to recruit a ruck since the late 90s.
The analysis was something to the effect of btw trades, drafting and all other means etc we’ve attempted it 30 times with our best efforts being Marshall off the rookie list, Gardiner essentially a free swing and maybe one or two others.
Reality is… an elite ruck is IMO one of the rarest commodities in football. If you get it, you keep it.
Would have to be a hell of a god father offer to shift my mind
It’s going to be so fascinating to get an insight into Lyons mindset at trade time with regards to recruitment.
For us fans that will be our “exploration” of learning what his list development strategy will be.
Lyon better not trade for top ups ie 2nd stringers from other clubs or role players!
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They’re eating – they are eating the pets of the people that live there.
Hey, I heard we have a great ruck @ Sandy named Campbell...several of youse been saying he needs games in the big boy league. So...trade away! We are covered
