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Are you okay with advertising on the forum to assist with costs and maintenance?

Poll ended at Thu 03 Aug 2023 4:54pm

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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024585Post saynta »

n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:30am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:21am
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 8:28am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 7:22am So I’m guessing you have already had your legal rep contact the AFL to bed down the revenue sharing and commercial agreements?
Do you even know what this means? The fact you even raised this shows me you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

I deal with the AFL every day. I deal with revshares and commercial agreements every day. Neither of which are applicable at any level in this scenario.
So I can start a commercial entity and start making money off the AFLs back and they won’t mind….cool.

And it would seem they don’t mind their employees and contractors making some coin on the side too, even cooler.

What did you think about re running the poll with a question that isn’t loaded towards only supporting the profit making model?
You really are clueless. I am disengaging now.
Vortex would start an argument with a lamp post if he ran into one.

The rest of us fully support what you are trying to achieve.


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024590Post Yorkeys »

Lamp post would win in two to three moves.


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024592Post saynta »

Yorkeys wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 11:20am Lamp post would win in two to three moves.
8-) :wink:


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024593Post The Fireman »

n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:30am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:21am
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 8:28am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 7:22am So I’m guessing you have already had your legal rep contact the AFL to bed down the revenue sharing and commercial agreements?
Do you even know what this means? The fact you even raised this shows me you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

I deal with the AFL every day. I deal with revshares and commercial agreements every day. Neither of which are applicable at any level in this scenario.
So I can start a commercial entity and start making money off the AFLs back and they won’t mind….cool.

And it would seem they don’t mind their employees and contractors making some coin on the side too, even cooler.

What did you think about re running the poll with a question that isn’t loaded towards only supporting the profit making model?
You really are clueless. I am disengaging now.
smart move


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024600Post Vortex »

n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:30am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:21am
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 8:28am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 7:22am So I’m guessing you have already had your legal rep contact the AFL to bed down the revenue sharing and commercial agreements?
Do you even know what this means? The fact you even raised this shows me you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

I deal with the AFL every day. I deal with revshares and commercial agreements every day. Neither of which are applicable at any level in this scenario.
So I can start a commercial entity and start making money off the AFLs back and they won’t mind….cool.

And it would seem they don’t mind their employees and contractors making some coin on the side too, even cooler.

What did you think about re running the poll with a question that isn’t loaded towards only supporting the profit making model?
You really are clueless. I am disengaging now.
Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight next time then.

Pffft!


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024602Post saynta »

Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 12:11pm
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:30am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:21am
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 8:28am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 7:22am So I’m guessing you have already had your legal rep contact the AFL to bed down the revenue sharing and commercial agreements?
Do you even know what this means? The fact you even raised this shows me you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

I deal with the AFL every day. I deal with revshares and commercial agreements every day. Neither of which are applicable at any level in this scenario.
So I can start a commercial entity and start making money off the AFLs back and they won’t mind….cool.

And it would seem they don’t mind their employees and contractors making some coin on the side too, even cooler.

What did you think about re running the poll with a question that isn’t loaded towards only supporting the profit making model?
You really are clueless. I am disengaging now.
Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight next time then.

Pffft!
What a stupid, meaningless snip at nick. You brough SFA as usual.

It was you that was shown up as an unintelligent turd, not nick FFS.


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024605Post CQ SAINT »

Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 12:11pm
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:30am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:21am
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 8:28am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 7:22am So I’m guessing you have already had your legal rep contact the AFL to bed down the revenue sharing and commercial agreements?
Do you even know what this means? The fact you even raised this shows me you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

I deal with the AFL every day. I deal with revshares and commercial agreements every day. Neither of which are applicable at any level in this scenario.
So I can start a commercial entity and start making money off the AFLs back and they won’t mind….cool.

And it would seem they don’t mind their employees and contractors making some coin on the side too, even cooler.

What did you think about re running the poll with a question that isn’t loaded towards only supporting the profit making model?
You really are clueless. I am disengaging now.
Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight next time then.

Pffft!
You don't actually need n1ck in this argument. I reckon you should just keep going on your own, just don't slip your grip and shoot yourself with that pistol your packing. 🤣🤣🤣


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024606Post saynta »

CQ SAINT wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 12:30pm
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 12:11pm
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:30am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:21am
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 8:28am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 7:22am So I’m guessing you have already had your legal rep contact the AFL to bed down the revenue sharing and commercial agreements?
Do you even know what this means? The fact you even raised this shows me you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

I deal with the AFL every day. I deal with revshares and commercial agreements every day. Neither of which are applicable at any level in this scenario.
So I can start a commercial entity and start making money off the AFLs back and they won’t mind….cool.

And it would seem they don’t mind their employees and contractors making some coin on the side too, even cooler.

What did you think about re running the poll with a question that isn’t loaded towards only supporting the profit making model?
You really are clueless. I am disengaging now.
Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight next time then.

Pffft!
You don't actually need n1ck in this argument. I reckon you should just keep going on your own, just don't slip your grip and shoot yourself with that pistol your packing. 🤣🤣🤣
I don't think it's a gun ,but his grip is turning his dick blue.


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024611Post The Fireman »

CQ SAINT wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 12:30pm
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 12:11pm
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:30am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:21am
n1ck wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 8:28am
Vortex wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 7:22am So I’m guessing you have already had your legal rep contact the AFL to bed down the revenue sharing and commercial agreements?
Do you even know what this means? The fact you even raised this shows me you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

I deal with the AFL every day. I deal with revshares and commercial agreements every day. Neither of which are applicable at any level in this scenario.
So I can start a commercial entity and start making money off the AFLs back and they won’t mind….cool.

And it would seem they don’t mind their employees and contractors making some coin on the side too, even cooler.

What did you think about re running the poll with a question that isn’t loaded towards only supporting the profit making model?
You really are clueless. I am disengaging now.
Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight next time then.

Pffft!
You don't actually need n1ck in this argument. I reckon you should just keep going on your own, just don't slip your grip and shoot yourself with that pistol your packing. 🤣🤣🤣
Lol. No fear though he uses blanks. 😂


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024705Post The_Dud »

Definitely not a troll…


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Post: # 2024706Post The Fireman »

The_Dud wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 10:32pm Definitely not a troll…
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Post: # 2024716Post asiu »

Yorkeys wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 11:20am Lamp post would win in two to three moves.
mmm

an under estimation swimming in hubris
by the supporters of the lamp post

at least the Knight is exploring territory

not sucking c**k back in rank 'n file
like a prawn on a cucumber sambo


en garde

Bishops in left field



offer me power
offer me money
i don't care


the lamp post iS defeated in 2.


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Post: # 2024723Post Otiman »

Surely with the low volume of traffic, no image hosting beyond some icons, and software that's 20 years old the ongoing costs would be quite cheap.


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Post: # 2024726Post Yorkeys »

asiu wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 9:15am
Yorkeys wrote: Thu 10 Aug 2023 11:20am Lamp post would win in two to three moves.
mmm

an under estimation swimming in hubris
by the supporters of the lamp post

at least the Knight is exploring territory

not sucking c**k back in rank 'n file
like a prawn on a cucumber sambo


en garde

Bishops in left field



offer me power
offer me money
i don't care


the lamp post iS defeated in 2.
V to lamppost base, bruises shin, applies vinegar and one of several brown paper PhD certificates kept in backpack for just such an event
Stray dog sniffs, pees on vinegar.
(no sucking was used in this tableau, no animals hurt)


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Re: Forum costs, maintenance and advertising

Post: # 2024727Post n1ck »

Otiman wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 9:56am Surely with the low volume of traffic, no image hosting beyond some icons, and software that's 20 years old the ongoing costs would be quite cheap.
I think (im not an expert in server tech or outaded forum tech!) that the site is quite resource heavy for what you've described - tech has advanced so much since this site was built that this infrastucture and setup is incredibly inefficient for what it is.

When referring to traffic I think it's key to point out the context. The regular community is small. The amount of regular posters is even smaller. But the site generates around 250k page views/loads per month (and I dont think this includes tapatalk/app data which im still trying to locate) throughout the season.

Is it small compared to BigFooty? Yes. Is it small compared to mainstream footy sites? Yes. Is it small compared to 95% of sites on the web? No.


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Post: # 2024747Post Vortex »

n1ck wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 10:55am
Otiman wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 9:56am Surely with the low volume of traffic, no image hosting beyond some icons, and software that's 20 years old the ongoing costs would be quite cheap.
I think (im not an expert in server tech or outaded forum tech!) that the site is quite resource heavy for what you've described - tech has advanced so much since this site was built that this infrastucture and setup is incredibly inefficient for what it is.

When referring to traffic I think it's key to point out the context. The regular community is small. The amount of regular posters is even smaller. But the site generates around 250k page views/loads per month (and I dont think this includes tapatalk/app data which im still trying to locate) throughout the season.

Is it small compared to BigFooty? Yes. Is it small compared to mainstream footy sites? Yes. Is it small compared to 95% of sites on the web? No.
And so how do you increase contributing members?


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Post: # 2024748Post n1ck »

Vortex wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 2:10pm And so how do you increase contributing members?
Asked and answered.


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Post: # 2024752Post shanegrambeau »

Otiman wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 9:56am Surely with the low volume of traffic, no image hosting beyond some icons, and software that's 20 years old the ongoing costs would be quite cheap.
I happily(ignorantly) know absolutely nothing about these matters, but I do know that value is in obsolescence if you look for it.

I travel on an old country rail line to work on Friday's that hasn't had a penny spent on in since the 1970s. It's costs must be minimal, but the owners have a mission, to condition the users to prospect that closure is imminent. Local pollies rally to keep it running tho their luck will run out. We are one flood or landslide away from closure. (perfect excuse to close it - repair costs)

If that analogy works here, we have a footy forum. Forums, like all regional railways, probably lose money in the age of social media, which has left them behind, even if they are invested in? Does Big Footy make money?

I think the question is, do we want to develop and upgrade? Or do we want to limp along on subsidies and good will? And that flood or landslide could be a technical upgrade required after a crash.


You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
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Post: # 2024753Post Mr Magic »

Vortex wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 2:10pm
n1ck wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 10:55am
Otiman wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 9:56am Surely with the low volume of traffic, no image hosting beyond some icons, and software that's 20 years old the ongoing costs would be quite cheap.
I think (im not an expert in server tech or outaded forum tech!) that the site is quite resource heavy for what you've described - tech has advanced so much since this site was built that this infrastucture and setup is incredibly inefficient for what it is.

When referring to traffic I think it's key to point out the context. The regular community is small. The amount of regular posters is even smaller. But the site generates around 250k page views/loads per month (and I dont think this includes tapatalk/app data which im still trying to locate) throughout the season.

Is it small compared to BigFooty? Yes. Is it small compared to mainstream footy sites? Yes. Is it small compared to 95% of sites on the web? No.
And so how do you increase contributing members?
It might help if we could get rid of serial trolls/pests


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Post: # 2024760Post asiu »

but

but

but

i like being a pest

it's my very nature :)



Save the Pests .... think of the children please


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Post: # 2024761Post The Fireman »

asiu wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 4:02pm but

but

but

i like being a pest

it's my very nature :)



Save the Pests .... think of the children please
Pfft your an amateur :wink:


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Post: # 2024765Post asiu »

are u still doing sessions on the velvet lounge
counsellor ?

will it help
(besides restocking your beer fridge)

so many questions

so few sparring partners


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Post: # 2024771Post The Fireman »

The fridge remains high priority but the couch is always available for those in need.

Although my success rate has been high with those that have availed themselves to the transcendental velvet davenport
i have failed miserably with one particular client ;)
as far as sparring partners
build it and they will come.


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Post: # 2024781Post Vortex »

Mr Magic wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 2:45pm
Vortex wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 2:10pm
n1ck wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 10:55am
Otiman wrote: Fri 11 Aug 2023 9:56am Surely with the low volume of traffic, no image hosting beyond some icons, and software that's 20 years old the ongoing costs would be quite cheap.
I think (im not an expert in server tech or outaded forum tech!) that the site is quite resource heavy for what you've described - tech has advanced so much since this site was built that this infrastucture and setup is incredibly inefficient for what it is.

When referring to traffic I think it's key to point out the context. The regular community is small. The amount of regular posters is even smaller. But the site generates around 250k page views/loads per month (and I dont think this includes tapatalk/app data which im still trying to locate) throughout the season.

Is it small compared to BigFooty? Yes. Is it small compared to mainstream footy sites? Yes. Is it small compared to 95% of sites on the web? No.
And so how do you increase contributing members?
It might help if we could get rid of serial trolls/pests
That could work, and maybe we could get rid of all the humourless, intolerant cranky old farts also and see if that helps bring in a few more members under the age of 70.

I love it when we come together in these thinktanks.


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Post: # 2024792Post asiu »

get some of the old pests back ?

they were probably old then
so
they're basically older now

what is the target audience
besides well trained advertisement watchers

is that what 'all ages' ... means
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