Reality

[Teflon]

Really ?And while we are in the mood to knock our coaches, I am not sold on RTB as a head coach .One should never forget that he lost four premiership matches including an unloseable one against the cats.

Unloseable? That Geelong team is one of the greatest of all time? On what planet was that game UNLOSEABLE?

I remember talking to Ross the next day. I still remember his words. “ I can prepare and coach them to my upmost but I’m not the one who has to kick the ball between those two big sticks” We never lost that game because of him.

Teamwork is the thing that talks

All for one and one for all

Except when it comes to Ross and his players

Have you ever watched the 2009 GF?

What was our inside 50 dominance in the first half? Did Lyon miss the shots on goal? Did Lyon kick it into the man on the mark kicking in after a point?

Games don't finish at half time or three quarter time if you hadn't noticed genius

The game plan sucked. The team selection sucked
Leaving Ball on the bench in the last sucked...want me to go on

I can fvcken play this game all day and all night

When the season was up for grabs (before we secured top spot) until about round 18 or 19. We were undefeated. Yes undefeated, our two H/A losses (by less than a kick) were dead rubbers to us. This with a team where the bottom 6 in our best 22 would not have got a game with most other teams. A list greatly diminished compared to the 2004/2005 List.

We should have been more than 5 goals up at half time, there would've been no coming back for Geelong, no matter how long Ball played. Then one goal would have got it done in the final quarter. Schneider and McQualter had straightforward opportunities and blew them and there were other opportunities.

Lyon set up the team to give it every chance of winning two Premierships, it was in the execution the team failed.

I suppose you blame Stan Alves for 1997?

This is factual
There was no better prepared team
Dominate and kick straight in that first half Cats were cooked

[SaintPav]

I also think we lost at selection; we went too tall in the front half in my opinion.

Well that was a strength I thought we could exploit if things went our way but it probably assumed we would at least break even in the midfield. We got smashed and the rest is history.

I didn’t see Paddy Dow tearing us a new one but here we are.

[Yorkeys]

I also think we lost at selection; we went too tall in the front half in my opinion.

Well that was a strength I thought we could exploit if things went our way but it probably assumed we would at least break even in the midfield. We got smashed and the rest is history.

I didn’t see Paddy Dow tearing us a new one but here we are.

Me either, but didn't we contain C. Curnow well.
Created a new rising star as well. Football was the winner.

[Zed]

I thought the first half vs Carlton was as good as we have played all year.
The 2nd half exposed the reality - that our midfield talent doesn’t run very deep at all and that overall , our talent is mid table at best.
With a bit of luck in the draft and some astute trading we can lock down a spot in the 8 next year.

[Sanctorum]

Gee that Blake Acres looks like a finals capable player

He sure is Scollop, mind you, it's taken him 10 seasons,139 games and 3 clubs to realise his mooted potential. It remains to be seen if he can keep that sort of form up for the rest of this season.

[Scollop]

Gee that Blake Acres looks like a finals capable player

It remains to be seen if he can keep that sort of form up for the rest of this season.

I think he will. Prototype mid. Loves the physical stuff and has the body to handle it

It's Rowan's fault he played so well against us. RoMa muscled up and did the 'Hulk' thing to Blake and Blake responded

[whiskers3614]

Really ?And while we are in the mood to knock our coaches, I am not sold on RTB as a head coach .One should never forget that he lost four premiership matches including an unloseable one against the cats.

Unloseable? That Geelong team is one of the greatest of all time? On what planet was that game UNLOSEABLE?

I remember talking to Ross the next day. I still remember his words. “ I can prepare and coach them to my upmost but I’m not the one who has to kick the ball between those two big sticks” We never lost that game because of him.

Teamwork is the thing that talks

All for one and one for all

Except when it comes to Ross and his players

Have you ever watched the 2009 GF?

What was our inside 50 dominance in the first half? Did Lyon miss the shots on goal? Did Lyon kick it into the man on the mark kicking in after a point?

Games don't finish at half time or three quarter time if you hadn't noticed genius

The game plan sucked. The team selection sucked
Leaving Ball on the bench in the last sucked...want me to go on

I can fvcken play this game all day and all night

When the season was up for grabs (before we secured top spot) until about round 18 or 19. We were undefeated. Yes undefeated, our two H/A losses (by less than a kick) were dead rubbers to us. This with a team where the bottom 6 in our best 22 would not have got a game with most other teams. A list greatly diminished compared to the 2004/2005 List.

We should have been more than 5 goals up at half time, there would've been no coming back for Geelong, no matter how long Ball played. Then one goal would have got it done in the final quarter. Schneider and McQualter had straightforward opportunities and blew them and there were other opportunities.

Lyon set up the team to give it every chance of winning two Premierships, it was in the execution the team failed.

I suppose you blame Stan Alves for 1997?

This is factual
There was no better prepared team
Dominate and kick straight in that first half Cats were cooked

How was the preparation between GF’s in 2010?

[n1ck]

How was the preparation between GF’s in 2010?

we were cooked.

[Teflon]

Really ?And while we are in the mood to knock our coaches, I am not sold on RTB as a head coach .One should never forget that he lost four premiership matches including an unloseable one against the cats.

Unloseable? That Geelong team is one of the greatest of all time? On what planet was that game UNLOSEABLE?

I remember talking to Ross the next day. I still remember his words. “ I can prepare and coach them to my upmost but I’m not the one who has to kick the ball between those two big sticks” We never lost that game because of him.

Teamwork is the thing that talks

All for one and one for all

Except when it comes to Ross and his players

Have you ever watched the 2009 GF?

What was our inside 50 dominance in the first half? Did Lyon miss the shots on goal? Did Lyon kick it into the man on the mark kicking in after a point?

Games don't finish at half time or three quarter time if you hadn't noticed genius

The game plan sucked. The team selection sucked
Leaving Ball on the bench in the last sucked...want me to go on

I can fvcken play this game all day and all night

When the season was up for grabs (before we secured top spot) until about round 18 or 19. We were undefeated. Yes undefeated, our two H/A losses (by less than a kick) were dead rubbers to us. This with a team where the bottom 6 in our best 22 would not have got a game with most other teams. A list greatly diminished compared to the 2004/2005 List.

We should have been more than 5 goals up at half time, there would've been no coming back for Geelong, no matter how long Ball played. Then one goal would have got it done in the final quarter. Schneider and McQualter had straightforward opportunities and blew them and there were other opportunities.

Lyon set up the team to give it every chance of winning two Premierships, it was in the execution the team failed.

I suppose you blame Stan Alves for 1997?

This is factual
There was no better prepared team
Dominate and kick straight in that first half Cats were cooked

How was the preparation between GF’s in 2010?

Not happy with 2 goes at it??????? Need 3?
How many GT get ya???

[Teflon]

How was the preparation between GF’s in 2010?

we were cooked.

Spot on!
We fired out shot
Actually Pies were best side in 2010 (borrowed our defensive game plan)
We were done

[Ghost Like]

How was the preparation between GF’s in 2010?

we were cooked.

Spot on!
We fired out shot
Actually Pies were best side in 2010 (borrowed our defensive game plan)
We were done

Agree, cooked! But I still have trouble believing they were the better side. The IP from Ball & Max was massive. Finally Collingwood had a defensive aspect after being a spaghetti sieve the years before.

[n1ck]

How was the preparation between GF’s in 2010?

we were cooked.

Spot on!
We fired out shot
Actually Pies were best side in 2010 (borrowed our defensive game plan)
We were done

Agree, cooked! But I still have trouble believing they were the better side. The IP from Ball & Max was massive. Finally Collingwood had a defensive aspect after being a spaghetti sieve the years before.

They were legitimately the best team all year. We were up and down, on and off, and went on abit of a run at the right time, but make no mistake, Collingwood were the better team all season.

[Teflon]

How was the preparation between GF’s in 2010?

we were cooked.

Spot on!
We fired out shot
Actually Pies were best side in 2010 (borrowed our defensive game plan)
We were done

Agree, cooked! But I still have trouble believing they were the better side. The IP from Ball & Max was massive. Finally Collingwood had a defensive aspect after being a spaghetti sieve the years before.

They were legitimately the best team all year. We were up and down, on and off, and went on abit of a run at the right time, but make no mistake, Collingwood were the better team all season.

Yep but Ghost has a point …,
Think Ball/Hudgton greatly assisted Malthouse rip off Lyons IP
Anyhoo ….water/tears under the bridge now
09 was ours….we kick 3-4 of those very gettable goals …Cats wouldn’t have caught us …we didn’t

[Scollop]

The coach blamed his players in 2009. He was wrong. Grand finals aren’t won and lost at half time.

You don’t earn silverware by being in front on the scoreboard BEFORE the final siren.

There’s no cups awarded for winning 19 home and away games in a row.

Riewoldt, Lenny, Dal Santo, Goddard, Joey, Fisher, Milne, Dempster, Kosi, Baker, Ball, Gilbert, Blake, Gardiner and Schneider had all played finals/prelims prior to Ross Lyon being appointed as senior coach of St Kilda in 2007.

The fact that they went again and made a Grand Final in 2010 was not a surprise. Ross did a good job but it wasn’t great.

[Teflon]

The coach blamed his players in 2009. He was wrong. Grand finals aren’t won and lost at half time.

Riewoldt, Lenny, Dal Santo, Goddard, Joey, Fisher, Milne, Dempster, Kosi, Baker, Ball, Gilbert, Blake, Gardiner and Schneider had all played finals/prelims prior to Ross Lyon being appointed as senior coach of St Kilda in 2007.

The fact that they went again and made a Grand Final in 2010 was not a surprise. Ross did a good job and it was great.

Fair post can’t argue with that
Welcome aboard!

[Scollop]

Teflon like’s to fiddle with people’s post when he can’t handle the truth

This (below) was the only bit I added to my original post

You don’t earn silverware by being in front on the scoreboard BEFORE the final siren.

There’s no cups awarded for winning 19 home and away games in a row.

[Teflon]

Teflon like’s to fiddle with people’s post when he can’t handle the truth

This (below) was the only bit I added to my original post

You don’t earn silverware by being in front on the scoreboard BEFORE the final siren.

There’s no cups awarded for winning 19 home and away games in a row.

Whose fiddling??
I agree - premiership cups aren’t won from Prelims like Grant could only manage
You gotta get in the GF to have a chance
Ross got us there twice and Freo once
It stands to reason why he’s St Kildas 2nd greatest coach of all time
Stings don’t it?

[Scollop]

The coach blamed his players in 2009. He was wrong. Grand finals aren’t won and lost at half time.

Riewoldt, Lenny, Dal Santo, Goddard, Joey, Fisher, Milne, Dempster, Kosi, Baker, Ball, Gilbert, Blake, Gardiner and Schneider had all played finals/prelims prior to Ross Lyon being appointed as senior coach of St Kilda in 2007.

The fact that they went again and made a Grand Final in 2010 was not a surprise. Ross did a good job and it was great.

Fair post can’t argue with that
Welcome aboard!

I don’t succumb to cults

Btw, I’ve reported you

[Teflon]

The coach blamed his players in 2009. He was wrong. Grand finals aren’t won and lost at half time.

Riewoldt, Lenny, Dal Santo, Goddard, Joey, Fisher, Milne, Dempster, Kosi, Baker, Ball, Gilbert, Blake, Gardiner and Schneider had all played finals/prelims prior to Ross Lyon being appointed as senior coach of St Kilda in 2007.

The fact that they went again and made a Grand Final in 2010 was not a surprise. Ross did a good job and it was great.

Fair post can’t argue with that
Welcome aboard!

I don’t succumb to cults

Btw, I’ve reported you

Excellent
Let that be the end of your hatred
We can join hands now as one
I reported you too for over reporting me

[Scollop]

Teflon like’s to fiddle with people’s post when he can’t handle the truth

This (below) was the only bit I added to my original post

You don’t earn silverware by being in front on the scoreboard BEFORE the final siren.

There’s no cups awarded for winning 19 home and away games in a row.

Whose fiddling??
I agree - premiership cups aren’t won from Prelims like Grant could only manage
You gotta get in the GF to have a chance
Ross got us there twice and Freo once
It stands to reason why he’s St Kildas 2nd greatest coach of all time
Stings don’t it?

Great coaches win silverware. He hasn’t qualified.

Next you’ll be calling him a legend of the St Kilda FC.

No one cares who came second Teflon but if that’s the badge of honour that you want to wear, that’s good for you

Changing other people’s post is simply being a sneak and a liar

[Scollop]

I expect us to win against Richmond who had shown last week against the Doggies they already packed their bags for Bali

Let’s see if Lyon doesn’t stuff this week up

[Teflon]

Teflon like’s to fiddle with people’s post when he can’t handle the truth

This (below) was the only bit I added to my original post

You don’t earn silverware by being in front on the scoreboard BEFORE the final siren.

There’s no cups awarded for winning 19 home and away games in a row.

Whose fiddling??
I agree - premiership cups aren’t won from Prelims like Grant could only manage
You gotta get in the GF to have a chance
Ross got us there twice and Freo once
It stands to reason why he’s St Kildas 2nd greatest coach of all time
Stings don’t it?

Great coaches win silverware. He hasn’t qualified.

Next you’ll be calling him a legend of the St Kilda FC.

No one cares who came second Teflon but if that’s the badge of honour that you want to wear, that’s good for you

Changing other people’s post is simply being a sneak and a liar

I only changed it to what you REALLY want to say
But your pathological hatred for Lyon/me won’t allow you
Repeat after me:
“I love Ross…he is not our problem….he is our solution..”
20 times
Go!

*This poster has been banned for baiting>1 hour

[CQ SAINT]

What does it say if we don’t win as many games this season as last season?

Apparently training standards were higher - which I believe
Apparently game plan is better?
Coaches are better?

Players basically the same

Probably more injuries this season???

What is sure
W/L is no different? And it’s a results business

My view
That players are what deliver results

Because that’s the only thing that hasn’t really changed
And results are similar

Caminiti, Owens, Phillipou and NWM have Ll played major roles. 2 of them never played before. Who did they replace, Hayes, King, Membrey and we haven't had anything like NVM in a while.

What didn't change was the lock Steele, Crouch, Ross, and Marshall have had on stoppages. I'd be expecting some change in that department.

[Scollop]

What didn't change was the lock Steele, Crouch, Ross, and Marshall have had on stoppages. I'd be expecting some change in that department.

I expect Marshall Crouch Steele and Clark to start in the centre against Richmond...

I expect Sinclair to go in at stages to replace Clark, Crouch or Steele, as well as Gresh replacing Clark or Crouch, and Owens to ruck when RoMa is resting.

After a while I expect the 3 amigos ( Crouch, Steele and Ross) lining up again in their usual roles. They'll probably get more opportunities for certain bounce attendance than the rest.

Sometimes you have to do exploration over 22 matches, just in case you missed something in the first 20

[CQ SAINT]

What didn't change was the lock Steele, Crouch, Ross, and Marshall have had on stoppages. I'd be expecting some change in that department.

I expect Marshall Crouch Steele and Clark to start in the centre against Richmond...

I expect Sinclair to go in at stages to replace Clark, Crouch or Steele, as well as Gresh replacing Clark or Crouch, and Owens to ruck when RoMa is resting.

After a while I expect the 3 amigos ( Crouch, Steele and Ross) lining up again in their usual roles. They'll probably get more opportunities for certain bounce attendance than the rest.

Sometimes you have to do exploration over 22 matches, just in case you missed something in the first 20

They are and have been a very ordinary clearance team. They lock the ball in but can't clear it. Not sure what you're talking about. Are you?