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Coaches votes Rnd 21

Post: # 2024383Post Scollop »

The Coaches Association votes were weird this week

Both coaches gave Fisher (4+2) and Acres(4+3) votes but only 1 coach thought Newman (5) was worthy. The other gave top votes to Cripps (5) and left out Newman altogether :shock:

The fact that Wood and Wilkie are on 1 each means that both Cripps and Newman must get 5 each. It's the only way it works.

Cripps had 24 touches. 5 X i50's and 4 Score involvements
Newman had 35 touches. 6 X i50's and 4 Score involvements.
Granted Cripps had a few more contested possessions but Newman plays HBF, so the fact that Newman had so many i50's is significant imo.

Is Vossy pumping up a Carlton player (the highest profile bloke on his list - the captain and Brownlow medalalist) so it's good for Carlton fans and sponsors to see him high up on the leaderboard?

Does Lyon perhaps think Cripps was more influential than all of Newman, Acres, Weitering and Fisher...or ...did Lyon stuff up and forgot who wore jumper number 24?

Maybe RTB couldn't give a stuff about coaches votes and he doesn't even know who Nic Newman is :lol:

7 Blake Acres (CARL)

6 Zac Fisher (CARL)

5 Patrick Cripps (CARL)

5 Nicholas Newman (CARL)

3 Jacob Weitering (CARL)

2 Tom De Koning (CARL)

1 Callum Wilkie (STK)

1 Mason Wood (STK)

https://aflcoaches.com.au/awards/the-af ... 3/20240121


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

Post: # 2024390Post terry smith rules »

Thank you for this post I thought they were strange when I looked on Monday

I was surprised De Koening got votes, he had some moments.. but votes?

Cripps 5? He was good but BOG?

But how could Wilkie only get one vote and one coach could not squeeze him in at all.


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That Blake Acres must be good, we should try get someone like that down at the Saints.

Can we also please stop pretending Steele "sacrificed his game" and "did a job" on Cripps too? He just flat out had a stinker, nothing more.


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:41am That Blake Acres must be good, we should try get someone like that down at the Saints.

Can we also please stop pretending Steele "sacrificed his game" and "did a job" on Cripps too? He just flat out had a stinker, nothing more.
Acres opponent had 37.


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CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:45am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:41am That Blake Acres must be good, we should try get someone like that down at the Saints.

Can we also please stop pretending Steele "sacrificed his game" and "did a job" on Cripps too? He just flat out had a stinker, nothing more.
Acres opponent had 37.
Does that include all the times he kicked it directly to the opposition?


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

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The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:51am
CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:45am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:41am That Blake Acres must be good, we should try get someone like that down at the Saints.

Can we also please stop pretending Steele "sacrificed his game" and "did a job" on Cripps too? He just flat out had a stinker, nothing more.
Acres opponent had 37.
Does that include all the times he kicked it directly to the opposition?
Got it 37 times. All players stats include poor disposal.


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The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:41am That Blake Acres must be good, we should try get someone like that down at the Saints.
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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

Post: # 2024398Post SaintPav »

Interesting voting analysis.

Wood had 37 possessions including 11 turnovers. Needless to say that it was frustrating to watch.

Acres is prone to butcher the ball too but was more effective on the afternoon.

Having Dan McKenzie on the other wing who can get back to help the defenders would have been very helpful. The guy can run all day and is very tough. I’m not sure if it’s a coincidence or not but we haven’t been the same team since he’s been missing.


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

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CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:53am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:51am
CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:45am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:41am That Blake Acres must be good, we should try get someone like that down at the Saints.

Can we also please stop pretending Steele "sacrificed his game" and "did a job" on Cripps too? He just flat out had a stinker, nothing more.
Acres opponent had 37.
Does that include all the times he kicked it directly to the opposition?
Got it 37 times. All players stats include poor disposal.
Some players go at 66% DE with 11 turnovers, some go at 85% DE with 2 goals and get best on from the coaches 👍


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

Post: # 2024401Post Yorkeys »

SaintPav wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 10:34am Interesting voting analysis.

Wood had 37 possessions including 11 turnovers. Needless to say that it was frustrating to watch.

Acres is prone to butcher the ball too but was more effective on the afternoon.

Having Dan McKenzie on the other wing who can get back to help the defenders would have been very helpful. The guy can run all day and is very tough. I’m not sure if it’s a coincidence or not but we haven’t been the same team since he’s been missing.
No coincidence.
If Dan had stayed fit we would have probably played finals last year and Ratts would still be coach. And Ross would not.
Hope whatever curse is on us is lifted under a mercy rule soon.
Not sure how the current coaching/playing group gordian knot is going to be undone.
Maybe Owens, Phillipou, Windhager and Caminiti ( and a few from last year's draft like Heath) plus Sinclair and Marshall will cut it through weight of talent.
Also can't see the current coaching panel staying in place much longer, there must be tensions. Even, dare I say, recriminations.


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

Post: # 2024402Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 10:42am
CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:53am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:51am
CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:45am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:41am That Blake Acres must be good, we should try get someone like that down at the Saints.

Can we also please stop pretending Steele "sacrificed his game" and "did a job" on Cripps too? He just flat out had a stinker, nothing more.
Acres opponent had 37.
Does that include all the times he kicked it directly to the opposition?
Got it 37 times. All players stats include poor disposal.
Some players go at 66% DE with 11 turnovers, some go at 85% DE with 2 goals and get best on from the coaches 👍
Yep and Sharman was in the best last week and this week was no good. Whats your point.


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

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CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 10:52am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 10:42am
CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:53am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:51am
CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:45am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:41am That Blake Acres must be good, we should try get someone like that down at the Saints.

Can we also please stop pretending Steele "sacrificed his game" and "did a job" on Cripps too? He just flat out had a stinker, nothing more.
Acres opponent had 37.
Does that include all the times he kicked it directly to the opposition?
Got it 37 times. All players stats include poor disposal.
Some players go at 66% DE with 11 turnovers, some go at 85% DE with 2 goals and get best on from the coaches 👍
Yep and Sharman was in the best last week and this week was no good. Whats your point.
The point is Acres is a quality player that we never used properly when on our list, and should have never been sent to Freo as steak knives in the Hill deal.

It's an all too familiar St Kilda story.


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

Post: # 2024407Post CURLY »

The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 11:03am
CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 10:52am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 10:42am
CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:53am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:51am
CURLY wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:45am
The_Dud wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 9:41am That Blake Acres must be good, we should try get someone like that down at the Saints.

Can we also please stop pretending Steele "sacrificed his game" and "did a job" on Cripps too? He just flat out had a stinker, nothing more.
Acres opponent had 37.
Does that include all the times he kicked it directly to the opposition?
Got it 37 times. All players stats include poor disposal.
Some players go at 66% DE with 11 turnovers, some go at 85% DE with 2 goals and get best on from the coaches 👍
Yep and Sharman was in the best last week and this week was no good. Whats your point.
The point is Acres is a quality player that we never used properly when on our list, and should have never been sent to Freo as steak knives in the Hill deal.

It's an all too familiar St Kilda story.
Freo booted him as well. Hes ok but would be just as maligned here now as what he was.


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Post: # 2024408Post Saint2 »

Would have been nice to see a couple of our midfielders or a forward do enough to get a vote apart from Wood. Poor team effort, poor coaching.


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Post: # 2024409Post Scollop »

Yorkeys wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 10:45am
....can't see the current coaching panel staying in place much longer, there must be tensions. Even, dare I say, recriminations.
Let's hope they keep the band together long enough for a few Number 1 hits


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

Post: # 2024431Post ace »

Scollop wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 5:05am The Coaches Association votes were weird this week

Both coaches gave Fisher (4+2) and Acres(4+3) votes but only 1 coach thought Newman (5) was worthy. The other gave top votes to Cripps (5) and left out Newman altogether :shock:

The fact that Wood and Wilkie are on 1 each means that both Cripps and Newman must get 5 each. It's the only way it works.

Cripps had 24 touches. 5 X i50's and 4 Score involvements
Newman had 35 touches. 6 X i50's and 4 Score involvements.
Granted Cripps had a few more contested possessions but Newman plays HBF, so the fact that Newman had so many i50's is significant imo.

Is Vossy pumping up a Carlton player (the highest profile bloke on his list - the captain and Brownlow medalalist) so it's good for Carlton fans and sponsors to see him high up on the leaderboard?

Does Lyon perhaps think Cripps was more influential than all of Newman, Acres, Weitering and Fisher...or ...did Lyon stuff up and forgot who wore jumper number 24?

Maybe RTB couldn't give a stuff about coaches votes and he doesn't even know who Nic Newman is :lol:

7 Blake Acres (CARL)

6 Zac Fisher (CARL)

5 Patrick Cripps (CARL)

5 Nicholas Newman (CARL)

3 Jacob Weitering (CARL)

2 Tom De Koning (CARL)

1 Callum Wilkie (STK)

1 Mason Wood (STK)

https://aflcoaches.com.au/awards/the-af ... 3/20240121
Newman 5 0
Cripps 0 5
Acres 4 3
Fisher 2 4
Weitering 3 0
De Koning 0 2
Wood 1 0
Wilkie 0 1


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Re: Coaches votes Rnd 21

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ace wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 2:17pm
Scollop wrote: Wed 09 Aug 2023 5:05am The Coaches Association votes were weird this week

Both coaches gave Fisher (4+2) and Acres(4+3) votes but only 1 coach thought Newman (5) was worthy. The other gave top votes to Cripps (5) and left out Newman altogether :shock:

The fact that Wood and Wilkie are on 1 each means that both Cripps and Newman must get 5 each. It's the only way it works.

Cripps had 24 touches. 5 X i50's and 4 Score involvements
Newman had 35 touches. 6 X i50's and 4 Score involvements.
Granted Cripps had a few more contested possessions but Newman plays HBF, so the fact that Newman had so many i50's is significant imo.

Is Vossy pumping up a Carlton player (the highest profile bloke on his list - the captain and Brownlow medalalist) so it's good for Carlton fans and sponsors to see him high up on the leaderboard?

Does Lyon perhaps think Cripps was more influential than all of Newman, Acres, Weitering and Fisher...or ...did Lyon stuff up and forgot who wore jumper number 24?

Maybe RTB couldn't give a stuff about coaches votes and he doesn't even know who Nic Newman is :lol:

7 Blake Acres (CARL)

6 Zac Fisher (CARL)

5 Patrick Cripps (CARL)

5 Nicholas Newman (CARL)

3 Jacob Weitering (CARL)

2 Tom De Koning (CARL)

1 Callum Wilkie (STK)

1 Mason Wood (STK)

https://aflcoaches.com.au/awards/the-af ... 3/20240121
Newman 5 0
Cripps 0 5
Acres 4 3
Fisher 2 4
Weitering 3 0
De Koning 0 2
Wood 1 0
Wilkie 0 1
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