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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023242Post Trev from the Bush »

Greg Williams was just as slow.

Ask any Geelong supporter how much better their team was once he moved to Sydney.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

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Is he a great kick?

I’m not so sure??

Just because a player can kick on their non preferred doesn’t make them a great kick

Look, I rate Hunter - highly!

Not sure if the coach does, or whether he wants to stay

If he did he’d have put pen to paper!


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Greg Williams

Was slow

But elite in every other category


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023281Post bigcarl »

B.M wrote: Sat 05 Aug 2023 4:30pm Is he a great kick?

I’m not so sure??

Just because a player can kick on their non preferred doesn’t make them a great kick

Look, I rate Hunter - highly!

Not sure if the coach does
He was pretty quick to get him back in the side once he'd recovered from his latest injury.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023291Post Ghost Like »

To be honest, I want him to stay. If he doesn't want to, I want him to f@ck off. I hope he realises a great pick or trade & then goes backwards as a footballer.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023292Post desertsaint »

excusing hunters lack of speed by comparing him with williams is like saying who needs two feet - maradona only had a left.
hunter has potential, and has shown glimpses of bullet time, but needs to show a bit more enthusiasm for the ball.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023322Post SydneySainter »

B.M wrote: Sat 05 Aug 2023 1:11pm Our preference is to resign him - no doubt

Although Ross would be concerned about his lack of running power - speed and endurance

But
I definitely think he wants a fresh start, as he did last season!

Sometimes for a change of luck, players need a change of scenery
Didn’t he get his nose out of joint when Ratts delivered a brutal assessment of his work rate?

If he still wants out, it’s hard to imagine that North would be at the top of his list?


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Re: is Clark too slow?

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If he wants in

And the club wants him

He’d be resigned by now

It’s r20


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023333Post D.B.Cooper »

LOL, was waiting for someone to write the Greg Williams line :lol: :lol: :lol:

1. Greg Williams retired 26 years ago, the game is a lot different in its requirements of athletes now.
2. Greg Williams was elite by hand and foot, on both sides and was incredibly tough and a great extractor from a contest.

Comparing Clark to an all time great is laughable, like comparing McCartin to Plugger because thy were both perceived to be overweight key forwards.

Clark has courage, good skills and is clever in heavy traffic.
He can be a good AFL player.
He is however running in quicksand and dos not have a high endurance level for an AFL player.
He is really suited as a half back but behind NWM and Sinclair in that rebounding role at St Kilda.

Maybe we do away with a lock down player like Webster or Stocker next year and play Sinclair, NWM, Clark & Hill alongside the talls as rebounders.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023334Post D.B.Cooper »

Sorry BM, I think your opinion and inside knowledge on Clark is changing with the weather!
There seems to be some confusion as to what you know, have heard and are speculating on.
B.M wrote: Thu 03 Aug 2023 11:13pm Is what I’m hearing

Clark - gone
B.M wrote: Sat 05 Aug 2023 10:11am If he was staying, he would have resigned

He wanted out last year, but we had him contracted
B.M wrote: Sat 05 Aug 2023 11:49pm
All I know is

Those players are either

Not resigned or contracted
Not in the team
Not playing well
Out of position
Out of favour

Or wanting to leave
Eg, Hunter, Gresham
B.M wrote: Sat 05 Aug 2023 4:30pm
Look, I rate Hunter - highly!

Not sure if the coach does, or whether he wants to stay

If he did he’d have put pen to paper!
B.M wrote: Sat 05 Aug 2023 1:11pm Our preference is to resign him - no doubt

Although Ross would be concerned about his lack of running power - speed and endurance

But
I definitely think he wants a fresh start, as he did last season!


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023336Post Yorkeys »

By the way how fast is Hunter, and what is too slow. Or is this a bit of gratuitous subjective guess work/character assassination. Jones is fast, but so what, he's largely ineffective. Hunter is quite effective, good hands/clever/brave, its not the Olympics 100m he is contesting.
How do we rate Pendlebury, tortoise or hare. Good or flog him to North poor. You'd be laughed out of Victoria Park to suggest it, wind whistling through all those gums.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

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Clark is not just slow- his loping stride length also impacts his kicking depth, and while he looks as if he should be a good kick many drop short and are intercepted. He has most of the skill set we love to see- and I hope he stays but works on improving his running style if that is possible?


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Re: is Clark too slow?

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I just believe our 22 is better with Clark in it, than a speculative 2nd or 3rd rounder. I also believe our 22 will be better with a fit, confident Nick Coffield. I hope they both remain at St Kilda.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023348Post TheGreatZacsby »

I’m pretty sure Hunter stated he wants to stay.

Based on this article:

https://www.zerohanger.com/st-kilda-mid ... 33783/amp/


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023355Post cwrcyn »

It seems the Hunter Clark bashing never ends.

The guy has had a terrible run with injuries, some horrific, and none to do with his overall fitness. They have all been contact injuries. However, all injuries interrupt a player's ability to get to peak fitness and remain there.

Injuries affect players both physically and mentally. We saw what they did to Jack Steele earlier this year

So...... how about we just let this stuff go for now. It's getting pretty tedious.


It's time to stop sh#tting on players at our football club, particularly those who've had to endure some real adversity.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023363Post Trev from the Bush »

Exactly. Too many confusing keyboard skills with football nous. And I don't think you have any worries about any of them taking over training drills at Moorabbin.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023673Post The_Dud »

20 touches and 10 tackles tonight, much better than a majority of his teammates, no way we should let him go.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

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20 touches - not enough for a mid

Our mids were smacked so tonight wasn’t good for your argument

Hunter is a good player

Thing is - he wants out!


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Re: is Clark too slow?

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B.M wrote: Sun 06 Aug 2023 9:45pm 20 touches - not enough for a mid

Our mids were smacked so tonight wasn’t good for your argument

Hunter is a good player

Thing is - he wants out!
He only wants out because I assume he has been made to feel not welcome!


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Just probably wants a fresh start

Like Billings and Gresham


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Re: is Clark too slow?

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B.M wrote: Sun 06 Aug 2023 9:45pm 20 touches - not enough for a mid

Our mids were smacked so tonight wasn’t good for your argument

Hunter is a good player

Thing is - he wants out!
How do you know?


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023771Post Ghost Like »

This, "he wants out" stuff B.M, is this in your head because he's not signed or because the Club has not offered a contract, that he likes? Or, regardless of contract, he's out?

This is your narrative, so please be specific or just say it's your dart you've thrown at the end of year trade board.

Gresham is playing like someone who is out the door. A player the club will be better without, in my opinion.


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Re: is Clark too slow?

Post: # 2023778Post D.B.Cooper »

B.M wrote: Sun 06 Aug 2023 9:45pm 20 touches - not enough for a mid

Our mids were smacked so tonight wasn’t good for your argument

Hunter is a good player

Thing is - he wants out!
You have commented multiple times that Hunter wants out, please advise how you know this to be fact?


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Has he re-signed?

He’s out of contract

If the club wants him they’d offer him an appropriate contract
If he wants to stay he’d sign that contract

Not sure either is the case?!


They say, if a player hasn’t signed by the bye, likelihood is they are gone - it’s R20


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Post: # 2023789Post Teflon »

B.M wrote: Sun 06 Aug 2023 10:40pm Has he re-signed?

He’s out of contract

If the club wants him they’d offer him an appropriate contract
If he wants to stay he’d sign that contract

Not sure either is the case?!


They say, if a player hasn’t signed by the bye, likelihood is they are gone - it’s R20
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