Ross Lyon is #2

[Mr Magic]

IIRC the Club had called a press conference to announce the re-signing. They thought that they’d done a deal with his management (Craig Kelly?) and Lyon had done deal with Freo (using a solicitor) behind the manager’s back because the manager was also representing Mark Harvey (incumbent Freo coach)

[Teflon]

The bottom line, and it irks me to say it, but we are just not that good. We are a very average football team. But I do believe the coaches including the development coaches are on the right track

Thanks Tony
Voice of reason in amongst insanity on here at times
I’m with Magic…sometimes coming in here and reading so much nonsense 18 games in makes me wonder if this is a Pies site masquerading as a saints fan page…
We aren’t that good I agree but hopefully Ross and coaches kick over enough rocks to find some decent future kids
Sharman did well today
Peris not disgraced (has lightning speed as a POD)
Soon as we stop talking this finals rubbish the better
Focus on the long term
I’d measure Lyon end next year on how many genuine starting 18 regular players /kids he’s unearthed that will be the core of this side for next 7-8 years
Do that and results will follow

[B.M]

Voice of reason

Or trying to sell the club to gullible supporters

Why are they on the right track?

[Scollop]

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[Teflon]

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And after 3 years of Ratten and 6 of Richo Very Very valid and good posts
After 18 games you want the coach sacked ????? I don’t Shiit the bed that easy..
Come back in 3 years …you can peddle your weird Ross Lyon hatred as much as you like then … you’ll love it should we fail!!

[Teflon]

Voice of reason

Or trying to sell the club to gullible supporters

Why are they on the right track?

Why aren’t we on track?
Did you think this side was top 4?
Have you seen no development of kids this year at all?
Shouldn’t that be the measure if we all acknowledge this list needs an overhaul and a midfielder or 3??

[Scollop]

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And after 3 years of Ratten and 6 of Richo Very Very valid and good posts
After 18 games you want the coach sacked ????? I don’t Shiit the bed that easy..
Come back in 3 years …you can peddle your weird Ross Lyon hatred as much as you like then … you’ll love it should we fail!!

Relax.

I've never stated in the last few weeks or since Ross was given the opportunity to coach us again, that I want him sacked. Don't make up shiitt

I was highlighting that tony74 was blaming assistant coaches last year and you wanted Ratts sacked

I'll say it again for the 10th time, I hope our board and footy department stick fat and we win our second premiership.

[saynta]

IIRC the Club had called a press conference to announce the re-signing. They thought that they’d done a deal with his management (Craig Kelly?) and Lyon had done deal with Freo (using a solicitor) behind the manager’s back because the manager was also representing Mark Harvey (incumbent Freo coach)

yep.

[saynta]

Voice of reason

Or trying to sell the club to gullible supporters

Why are they on the right track?

Only trouble is , we are not that gullible any longer

[Teflon]

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And after 3 years of Ratten and 6 of Richo Very Very valid and good posts
After 18 games you want the coach sacked ????? I don’t Shiit the bed that easy..
Come back in 3 years …you can peddle your weird Ross Lyon hatred as much as you like then … you’ll love it should we fail!!

Relax.

I've never stated in the last few weeks or since Ross was given the opportunity to coach us again, that I want him sacked. Don't make up shiitt

I was highlighting that tony74 was blaming assistant coaches last year and you wanted Ratts sacked

I'll say it again for the 10th time, I hope our board and footy department stick fat and we win our second premiership.

I’m not sure you do…
But after 18 games even you can see the stupidity in questioning a new coach year 1 off 10 years or mediocrity
Hang in there we’ll be ok

[The Fireman]

Voice of reason

Or trying to sell the club to gullible supporters

Why are they on the right track?

Only trouble is , we are not that gullible any longer

gullible football supporter ...is that an Oxymoron or a truism ?

[whiskers3614]

After-8 games (17actually) we are entitled to ask questions about selection of injured players in a year of exploration!
Lyon’s words and actions do not gel with each other.
Year of exploration and waiting for next pre-season but clearly hampered Wood and Steele continue to be selected rather than being told to go get themselves right for an early start to pre-season.

[saynta]

After-8 games (17actually) we are entitled to ask questions about selection of injured players in a year of exploration!
Lyon’s words and actions do not gel with each other.
Year of exploration and waiting for next pre-season but clearly hampered Wood and Steele continue to be selected rather than being told to go get themselves right for an early start to pre-season.

Exactly. RTB appears more concerned about protecting whatever reputation he has as a coach over the welfare of his players,and the team for that matter judging from his press conference.

[Teflon]

After-8 games (17actually) we are entitled to ask questions about selection of injured players in a year of exploration!
Lyon’s words and actions do not gel with each other.
Year of exploration and waiting for next pre-season but clearly hampered Wood and Steele continue to be selected rather than being told to go get themselves right for an early start to pre-season.

How would you know that unless you were in the team meeting?
Steele played a blinder against Melbourne???
What’s next ….a grassy knoll ?

[WellardSaint]

The bottom line, and it irks me to say it, but we are just not that good. We are a very average football team. But I do believe the coaches including the development coaches are on the right track

RTB had the whole pre-season to get their skills sorted.
I think you said he stepped away and let Lenny, Harves, Boris- conduct most of the training.

Is his 'pre-season' comment an admission that it wasn't done right?
How do skills fall in a hole this far into a season.
Our guys kicking straight to an oppo player.
Our guys handballing behind a team-mate. Zak had to stop and turn around, other guys had to stop and got caught or lost the ball entirely.
In junior footy, C Grade Ammos, we had to drop and do 10 pushups if we pulled that stuff at training.
YOU HANDBALL SO A GUY CAN RUN ONTO IT WITHOUT BREAKING STRIDE.
And handballing at a guy's bootlaces.

UNFORGIVEABLE.

[saynta]

The bottom line, and it irks me to say it, but we are just not that good. We are a very average football team. But I do believe the coaches including the development coaches are on the right track

RTB had the whole pre-season to get their skills sorted.
I think you said he stepped away and let Lenny, Harves, Boris- conduct most of the training.

Is his 'pre-season' comment an admission that it wasn't done right?
How do skills fall in a hole this far into a season.
Our guys kicking straight to an oppo player.
Our guys handballing behind a team-mate. Zak had to stop and turn around, other guys had to stop and got caught or lost the ball entirely.
In junior footy, C Grade Ammos, we had to drop and do 10 pushups if we pulled that stuff at training.
YOU HANDBALL SO A GUY CAN RUN ONTO IT WITHOUT BREAKING STRIDE.
And handballing at a guy's bootlaces.

UNFORGIVEABLE.

Well said and so f****** true unfortunately.

[Teflon]

The bottom line, and it irks me to say it, but we are just not that good. We are a very average football team. But I do believe the coaches including the development coaches are on the right track

RTB had the whole pre-season to get their skills sorted.
I think you said he stepped away and let Lenny, Harves, Boris- conduct most of the training.

Is his 'pre-season' comment an admission that it wasn't done right?
How do skills fall in a hole this far into a season.
Our guys kicking straight to an oppo player.
Our guys handballing behind a team-mate. Zak had to stop and turn around, other guys had to stop and got caught or lost the ball entirely.
In junior footy, C Grade Ammos, we had to drop and do 10 pushups if we pulled that stuff at training.
YOU HANDBALL SO A GUY CAN RUN ONTO IT WITHOUT BREAKING STRIDE.
And handballing at a guy's bootlaces.

UNFORGIVEABLE.

Oh dear god…
Lyons had 1 pre season ??
18 games
No ability to yet even stamp his name on this list???
It’s Rattens list ffs
So skill level should be fixed overnight ….but it hasn’t been 10 years prior????
Seriously

[B.M]

Why are we having to work on skills at the elite level?

We draft and list the best talent in the country- and they have poor skills?

I don’t buy that

You teach Game Plan to players that have skill at that level

[Teflon]

Why are we having to work on skills at the elite level?

We draft and list the best talent in the country- and they have poor skills?

I don’t buy that

You teach Game Plan to players that have skill at that level

Your best post yet

[B.M]

Still waiting for a decent one from you

[tony74]

The bottom line, and it irks me to say it, but we are just not that good. We are a very average football team. But I do believe the coaches including the development coaches are on the right track

RTB had the whole pre-season to get their skills sorted.
I think you said he stepped away and let Lenny, Harves, Boris- conduct most of the training.

Is his 'pre-season' comment an admission that it wasn't done right?
How do skills fall in a hole this far into a season.
Our guys kicking straight to an oppo player.
Our guys handballing behind a team-mate. Zak had to stop and turn around, other guys had to stop and got caught or lost the ball entirely.
In junior footy, C Grade Ammos, we had to drop and do 10 pushups if we pulled that stuff at training.
YOU HANDBALL SO A GUY CAN RUN ONTO IT WITHOUT BREAKING STRIDE.
And handballing at a guy's bootlaces.

UNFORGIVEABLE.

Oh dear god…
Lyons had 1 pre season ??
18 games
No ability to yet even stamp his name on this list???
It’s Rattens list ffs
So skill level should be fixed overnight ….but it hasn’t been 10 years prior????
Seriously

How very very true. And when Ross and co start cutting and replacing the list not everyone will be happy.

[saynta]

Why are we having to work on skills at the elite level?

We draft and list the best talent in the country- and they have poor skills?

I don’t buy that

You teach Game Plan to players that have skill at that level

I don't buy it either. something else is at play here.

Maybe they don't like the shitty negative game plan and the negative attitude of their coach which is becoming more obvious each week.

Here's a thought. Tell the players to go out and have fun, play their natural game and see what happens.Forget the f****** game plan that sees them scoring two goals in a half of football.

Maybe we will be surprised, and maybe not.

[saynta]

The bottom line, and it irks me to say it, but we are just not that good. We are a very average football team. But I do believe the coaches including the development coaches are on the right track

RTB had the whole pre-season to get their skills sorted.
I think you said he stepped away and let Lenny, Harves, Boris- conduct most of the training.

Is his 'pre-season' comment an admission that it wasn't done right?
How do skills fall in a hole this far into a season.
Our guys kicking straight to an oppo player.
Our guys handballing behind a team-mate. Zak had to stop and turn around, other guys had to stop and got caught or lost the ball entirely.
In junior footy, C Grade Ammos, we had to drop and do 10 pushups if we pulled that stuff at training.
YOU HANDBALL SO A GUY CAN RUN ONTO IT WITHOUT BREAKING STRIDE.
And handballing at a guy's bootlaces.

UNFORGIVEABLE.

Oh dear god…
Lyons had 1 pre season ??
18 games
No ability to yet even stamp his name on this list???
It’s Rattens list ffs
So skill level should be fixed overnight ….but it hasn’t been 10 years prior????
Seriously

How very very true. And when Ross and co start cutting and replacing the list not everyone will be happy.

Pelican s*** revisited, eh?

[nobhead]

The bottom line, and it irks me to say it, but we are just not that good. We are a very average football team. But I do believe the coaches including the development coaches are on the right track

RTB had the whole pre-season to get their skills sorted.
I think you said he stepped away and let Lenny, Harves, Boris- conduct most of the training.

Is his 'pre-season' comment an admission that it wasn't done right?
How do skills fall in a hole this far into a season.
Our guys kicking straight to an oppo player.
Our guys handballing behind a team-mate. Zak had to stop and turn around, other guys had to stop and got caught or lost the ball entirely.
In junior footy, C Grade Ammos, we had to drop and do 10 pushups if we pulled that stuff at training.
YOU HANDBALL SO A GUY CAN RUN ONTO IT WITHOUT BREAKING STRIDE.
And handballing at a guy's bootlaces.

UNFORGIVEABLE.

Oh dear god…
Lyons had 1 pre season ??
18 games
No ability to yet even stamp his name on this list???
It’s Rattens list ffs
So skill level should be fixed overnight ….but it hasn’t been 10 years prior????
Seriously

How very very true. And when Ross and co start cutting and replacing the list not everyone will be happy.

Trade and draft period can't come quick enough.
We are going nowhere fast with this list ,history has proven that no matter who the coaching group is.

[nobhead]

The bottom line, and it irks me to say it, but we are just not that good. We are a very average football team. But I do believe the coaches including the development coaches are on the right track

RTB had the whole pre-season to get their skills sorted.
I think you said he stepped away and let Lenny, Harves, Boris- conduct most of the training.

Is his 'pre-season' comment an admission that it wasn't done right?
How do skills fall in a hole this far into a season.
Our guys kicking straight to an oppo player.
Our guys handballing behind a team-mate. Zak had to stop and turn around, other guys had to stop and got caught or lost the ball entirely.
In junior footy, C Grade Ammos, we had to drop and do 10 pushups if we pulled that stuff at training.
YOU HANDBALL SO A GUY CAN RUN ONTO IT WITHOUT BREAKING STRIDE.
And handballing at a guy's bootlaces.

UNFORGIVEABLE.

Oh dear god…
Lyons had 1 pre season ??
18 games
No ability to yet even stamp his name on this list???
It’s Rattens list ffs
So skill level should be fixed overnight ….but it hasn’t been 10 years prior????
Seriously

How very very true. And when Ross and co start cutting and replacing the list not everyone will be happy.

Trade and draft period can't come quick enough.
We are going nowhere fast with this list ,history has proven that no matter who the coaching group is.