Match Thread Round 14 2023 V Richmond

[BadRossco]

Was men against boys, result was inevitable in those conditions, ability to finish in front of goal was also massive

[desertsaint]

tigers were always likelier given the occasion. not a bad loss given we fought back into it. good signs.

[Teflon]

Atrocious in the box tonight

Failed to

Adjust style of play to conditions - allowing them to have a spare in the second quarter and half - not getting Sincs around the footy (it wasn’t a rebounding game!

Players adjusted by halfway through the third - too late

Lol
Here we go
Coaches don’t matter …but we’re atrocious and cost us the game ??
How about the C grade midfield in Q2 or Benny Hill full back gifting goals…
Yeah…you can coach for that shyte effort on field
Not.

[Teflon]

tigers were always likelier given the occasion. not a bad loss given we fought back into it. good signs.

I agree
Tipped a loss so not surprised
Next week at Marvel we’ll see what they’re made of

[saintkid]

It's blatantly obvious we had poor leadership from our senior players out there when it mattered, unlike Richmond.
We have some senior players that are simply not good enough and have to make way for new blood, otherwise we're going to continue to just make up the numbers.

[samoht]

Midfield talent, a proper full back ... and the MCG with a roof and climate control.

[Saintmatt]

Howard’s great and enduring gift is blaming other teammates for his own ineptitude.

There’s a lot of the Godard’s about him. Except Goddard was pretty much the best player in the comp in 2010.

Howard isn’t in the top 150

[Jacks Back]

tigers were always likelier given the occasion. not a bad loss given we fought back into it. good signs.

I agree
Tipped a loss so not surprised
Next week at Marvel we’ll see what they’re made of

6 day break v 7 day break plus leg weary from the slog tonight. Not sure we can back up but I hope I'm wrong.

[B.M]

A leader getting subbed out for a fringe medium is embarrassing for Howard

He was shocking!!!

[Scollop]

How how many times did you see Richmond slice us up with handball and run and precision disposal
No fumbling
We just vomit.out.of stoppage (haha...that should be 'bomb it's)
We just bomb It out Of defence
We bomb it into the forward line
We lack polish and connection
We lack a Taranto or a Prestia
We lack a good tap ruck like Nank
We lack another class backman like Grimes

I go back to what Ross said at the start of the year
He said it was going to be a year of exploration

Tonight's conditions could have been perfect for Bytel. Same with a tough nut like Highmore. I also think we've got to play Sharman more.

We needed to mix things up from the word go instead of Ross and the club getting sucked in by the early wins.

It ends up costing us again for the long term

[SaintPav]

Thought it was a finals like game.

Tells you how we’d go if we made it to September.

As an aside, Trent Crotchin is such an unlikeable bloke.

[Teflon]

It's blatantly obvious we had poor leadership from our senior players out there when it mattered, unlike Richmond.
We have some senior players that are simply not good enough and have to make way for new blood, otherwise we're going to continue to just make up the numbers.

Yep
What is really obvious is that the players that looked most comfortable in the heat were kids like Windhager Pou etc
Sinclair too but he’s a gun
Reality is it’s the new brigade that will take us to top 4
You can’t have a midfield go to sleep for a quarter…allow a 40 point turn around….then decide to play again …it’s just not good enough
Steele - needs to either rest forward or go out of the side clearly not right
Tigers mids got it done
Hit the draft get AA kids in…do it while King etc are young enough we’ll rise and not just for year
We are not seriously challenging anyone with this midfield
In finals heard we could be really embarrassed going awol for a quarter…
Howard Byrnes Ross Steele
We looked better with Sharman at FB FFS least he could punch the ball !!

[saintkid]

A leader getting subbed out for a fringe medium is embarrassing for Howard

He was shocking!!!

Certainly was shocking. Offered nothing tonight and cost us a few goals too which hurt the team so badly in these conditions.

Watching a team that has won 3 premierships in the last 7 years want this win so badly and getting good service from most of their senior players, compared to ours, is such a kick in the guts .

[Teflon]

How how many times did you see Richmond slice us up with handball and run and precision disposal
No fumbling
We just vomit.out.of stoppage (haha...that should be 'bomb it's)
We just bomb It out Of defence
We bomb it into the forward line
We lack polish and connection
We lack a Taranto or a Prestia
We lack a good tap ruck like Nank
We lack another class backman like Grimes

I go back to what Ross said at the start of the year
He said it was going to be a year of exploration

Tonight's conditions could have been perfect for Bytel. Same with a tough nut like Highmore. I also think we've got to play Sharman more.

We needed to mix things up from the word go instead of Ross and the club getting sucked in by the early wins.

It ends up costing us again for the long term

We had a fantastic win last week - you don’t make 5 changes to the side off that ..that’s rubbish
It’s great 30 mins after the loss to be all arm chair expert but the logic in the side picked was sound
Even Steele looked better last week
Subbing Howard was good call
Windhager looked good tonight
Pou too
After tonight …it’s an opportunity to make some change
I still want to see Owens play as a mid
2nds were ordinary as well and I didn’t see Highmore star?
Agree Sharman needs a block of games

[whiskers3614]

Atrocious in the box tonight

Failed to

Adjust style of play to conditions - allowing them to have a spare in the second quarter and half - not getting Sincs around the footy (it wasn’t a rebounding game!

Players adjusted by halfway through the third - too late

Lol
Here we go
Coaches don’t matter …but we’re atrocious and cost us the game ??
How about the C grade midfield in Q2 or Benny Hill full back gifting goals…
Yeah…you can coach for that shyte effort on field
Not.

So if it’s a year of exploration why run a hobbled Steele into the ground, instead of resting him and seeing what our young potential mids can do in the middle?

[Scollop]

What has Higgins brought to St Kilda?

Why do list managers and clubs go after a small forward when we already had Kent, Gresham, Billings and ....we had a gun small forward who we recruited to the Saints a year before Higgins arrived

Butler.

Compare Butler's game tonight to Higgins. Compare the run and carry by Butler and his workrate. 6 inside 50's from Butts. Only 2 from Snags

[Teflon]

Thought it was a finals like game.

Tells you how we’d go if we made it to September.

As an aside, Trent Crotchin is such an unlikeable bloke.

I tbink we’ve known since Rd 6 our midfield isn’t up to it
Don’t think you need a final’s pressure game to find that out
What it tells me is we are just making up numbers if we get there
We might get lucky…we might get pantsed …we’re flaky …
One tiny good sign…they didn’t give up …that’s useful going forward

[B.M]

Coaches don’t matter in your eyes now Teffers

Or is that only when we lose - then it’s the players?!

You flip flop

Only a few things a coach actually does that’s influential in games
Select the right team - fail
Orchestrate whether and where their is a spare - fail

Teams have worked us out - put speed on the ball movement and disrupt our zone

Good teams will beat us every time because we allow them to by the way we play

[Teflon]

Atrocious in the box tonight

Failed to

Adjust style of play to conditions - allowing them to have a spare in the second quarter and half - not getting Sincs around the footy (it wasn’t a rebounding game!

Players adjusted by halfway through the third - too late

Lol
Here we go
Coaches don’t matter …but we’re atrocious and cost us the game ??
How about the C grade midfield in Q2 or Benny Hill full back gifting goals…
Yeah…you can coach for that shyte effort on field
Not.

So if it’s a year of exploration why run a hobbled Steele into the ground, instead of resting him and seeing what our young potential mids can do in the middle?

Dont disagree although Steele did ok last week and on that performance deserved to play ahead of a Bytel
Of tonight’s game? No
I think Lyon has shown he’s playing kids - Windhager Owens Pou Byrnes Sharman (he needs a go at it longer than sub) Caminiti
So I think he’s exploring
Don’t think he’s gonna throw the whole side out tho
He’s left out guys like Billing’s Membrey Paton for a reason..

[SaintPav]

Thought it was a finals like game.

Tells you how we’d go if we made it to September.

As an aside, Trent Crotchin is such an unlikeable bloke.

I tbink we’ve known since Rd 6 our midfield isn’t up to it
Don’t think you need a final’s pressure game to find that out
What it tells me is we are just making up numbers if we get there
We might get lucky…we might get pantsed …we’re flaky …
One tiny good sign…they didn’t give up …that’s useful going forward

Are you some kind of stalker?

There’s no need to keep responding to my posts, particularly after your recent behaviour.

Weird.

[B.M]

Haha

Sharman need a block of games

He’s not up to it - not even sure what position he can play

Too small to play as a key - too slow and poor at ground level to be a medium

[Teflon]

Coaches don’t matter in your eyes now Teffers

Or is that only when we lose - then it’s the players?!

You flip flop

Only a few things a coach actually does that’s influential in games
Select the right team - fail
Orchestrate whether and where their is a spare - fail

Teams have worked us out - put speed on the ball movement and disrupt our zone

Good teams will beat us every time because we allow them to by the way we play

I think you’re the flip flopper buddy
I notice your post count goes through the roof after a loss
When we win….you go awol
It’s classic cliched “captain hindsight” stuff with you
EVERYONE on this site and other sites I read knows the list has large holes ..namely midfield
But you come on after a loss …make out coaches have no influence….then proceed to tell us how they failed from the box…
Make up your mind genius
Oh ….and teams “with speed on the ball beat us” didn’t look like that in the 3rd quarter??
Teams whose midfielders don’t go missing for whole quarters will beat us..,,think you better start looking there …
I’m
Not st all phased by tonight’s loss
But if we win next make sure you show up ok?

[Teflon]

Thought it was a finals like game.

Tells you how we’d go if we made it to September.

As an aside, Trent Crotchin is such an unlikeable bloke.

I tbink we’ve known since Rd 6 our midfield isn’t up to it
Don’t think you need a final’s pressure game to find that out
What it tells me is we are just making up numbers if we get there
We might get lucky…we might get pantsed …we’re flaky …
One tiny good sign…they didn’t give up …that’s useful going forward

Are you some kind of stalker?

There’s no need to keep responding to my posts, particularly after your recent behaviour.

Weird.

Oh my goodness ….
The temerity for responding to one of the sites sages post and actually daring to talk footy
I don’t think I said anything other than note that this didn’t show us anything we didn’t know????
And who are you the behaviour police??
Spare us all Drama queen….
Oh PS: I’ll respond to whatever post I like (like you do) - when talking footy on a footy fan site
Don’t like? Off you go

[Teflon]

What has Higgins brought to St Kilda?

Why do list managers and clubs go after a small forward when we already had Kent, Gresham, Billings and ....we had a gun small forward who we recruited to the Saints a year before Higgins arrived

Butler.

Compare Butler's game tonight to Higgins. Compare the run and carry by Butler and his workrate. 6 inside 50's from Butts. Only 2 from Snags

WTF
You can’t be serious

[Devilhead]

Coughing up goals in the last min of quarters just kills us