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Post: # 2013209Post terry smith rules »

Simply a disgraceful decision

Smashed front on in a marking contest it is a free all day every day


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Post: # 2013212Post bobmurray »

Francis and rampe got away with a lot of rough stuff, i thought.

Admittedly, Francis was out of his depth.


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Post: # 2013215Post Otiman »

`Which one?


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Post: # 2013235Post terry smith rules »

Otiman wrote: Thu 08 Jun 2023 11:55pm`Which one?
The one when he was injured


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Post: # 2013243Post skeptic »

How about the hands in the back to NWM… stinker. Talk about the umpires assuming they saw something


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Post: # 2013260Post Toy Saint »

Reckon we got the rub of the green tonight


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Post: # 2013268Post desertsaint »

shocking umpiring, but on balance i'm not complaining . afl needs to ditch the fourth ump - not near enough depth in the ump stocks. whilst at it, the afl commentary could drop one of theirs at least.


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Post: # 2013273Post TheGreatZacsby »

There were a lot of free kicks to King and even Higgins. My partner was watching it and she called a lot of Higgins holds whilst I fixated on Max. Francis can go suck a fat one. Looked like a loser.


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Toy Saint wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 12:19am Reckon we got the rub of the green tonight
100%.

2 goals from 50m penalties in the last quarter of a tight game? No one is gonna knock that back.


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Post: # 2013297Post Sainter_Dad »

The_Dud wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:17am
Toy Saint wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 12:19am Reckon we got the rub of the green tonight
100%.

2 goals from 50m penalties in the last quarter of a tight game? No one is gonna knock that back.
So they weren't there?


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:26am
The_Dud wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:17am
Toy Saint wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 12:19am Reckon we got the rub of the green tonight
100%.

2 goals from 50m penalties in the last quarter of a tight game? No one is gonna knock that back.
So they weren't there?
Depends which team you follow, isn’t that how it goes?


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Post: # 2013301Post Sainter_Dad »

The_Dud wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:34am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:26am
The_Dud wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:17am
Toy Saint wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 12:19am Reckon we got the rub of the green tonight
100%.

2 goals from 50m penalties in the last quarter of a tight game? No one is gonna knock that back.
So they weren't there?
Depends which team you follow, isn’t that how it goes?
No - you agreed we got the rub of the green - ie when it was 50/50 it went our way

So were the 50s disputable????

They get paid every week - usually against us.


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Post: # 2013303Post The_Dud »

Sainter_Dad wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:36am
The_Dud wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:34am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:26am
The_Dud wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:17am
Toy Saint wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 12:19am Reckon we got the rub of the green tonight
100%.

2 goals from 50m penalties in the last quarter of a tight game? No one is gonna knock that back.
So they weren't there?
Depends which team you follow, isn’t that how it goes?
No - you agreed we got the rub of the green - ie when it was 50/50 it went our way

So were the 50s disputable????

They get paid every week - usually against us.
Yep, sometimes they get paid, sometimes the umps give more leeway. 2 out of 2 is a pretty good strike rate.

Guaranteed this place would be calling for heads to roll if the situation was reversed.

Horse was not happy in the press conference.


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Post: # 2013311Post King Max »

The_Dud wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:17am
Toy Saint wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 12:19am Reckon we got the rub of the green tonight
100%.

2 goals from 50m penalties in the last quarter of a tight game? No one is gonna knock that back.
Guy who wasn’t near the contest just ran past NWM to take up the mark. Obvious 50.
Guy who was 2m in front of Owens when he marked it just turned around to stand the mark. Umpire called him back and he ignored him. Umpire was being generous to warn him.
Obvious 50.

Swans two goals from soft frees in the 3rd. I guess they were OK.


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Post: # 2013313Post meher baba »

The NWM one was there. The other one was crap IMO.


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Post: # 2013317Post Sainter_Dad »

meher baba wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 6:35am The NWM one was there. The other one was crap IMO.
The other was a guy who bumped Owens - AFTER HE TOOK THE MARK - and had slowed down - OBVIOUSLY HE WAS PAST THE MARK and was just trying to make the kick further from goal.


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Post: # 2013324Post wally »

It seems more umpiring decisions are becoming a toss of a coin you see the same act paid either way many times during a match or over the weekend. It seems they have forgotten about the protected area after a mark.
Still surprised they paid that push in the back in the goal square against Buddy usually miss that probably wouldn’t pay it if it was a goal


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Post: # 2013335Post Beno88 »

The umpiring was poor all game, way over the top. We probably got the better of it overall, but were on the end of some glaring mistakes.

Campbell throwing the ball to himself and being paid holding the man while it was in flight in the first quarter was something.

The dangerous tackles against Ross and Butler confirmed the tackle is dead.


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Post: # 2013339Post SaintPav »

The free against NVM was a disgrace.

There was another free paid out of the middle to Gulden when he had the ball with one arm and Crouch tackled him by grabbing his other arm. He clearly had possession but the umpire paid holding the man.

Umpires need to stamp out the mauling of King. At one stage, Francis had King pinned to the ground away from the play right in front of the umpires.


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Post: # 2013341Post skeptic »

wally wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 8:29am It seems more umpiring decisions are becoming a toss of a coin you see the same act paid either way many times during a match or over the weekend. It seems they have forgotten about the protected area after a mark.
Still surprised they paid that push in the back in the goal square against Buddy usually miss that probably wouldn’t pay it if it was a goal
This is my take as well. It just feels absurdly random at times whether or not they’re white hot on a rule or going to let it go. To be honest I’ve just stopped caring about it as it’s pointless being invested in a dice roll


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:36am
The_Dud wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:34am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:26am
The_Dud wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 2:17am
Toy Saint wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 12:19am Reckon we got the rub of the green tonight
100%.

2 goals from 50m penalties in the last quarter of a tight game? No one is gonna knock that back.
So they weren't there?
Depends which team you follow, isn’t that how it goes?
No - you agreed we got the rub of the green - ie when it was 50/50 it went our way

So were the 50s disputable????

They get paid every week - usually against us.
We have been on the other end of those 50s this season. From a supporter perspective, the application of the standing the mark and getting back is very inconsistent. Players on the mark steal territory all the time. Sometimes it’s called out and a lot of the times it isn’t.

Not sure why some think it’s worth the time to intentionally rile and provoke others on a fan forum about their supporter bias. I do not give a crap about what free kicks the opposition get.


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Post: # 2013353Post TheGreatZacsby »

I’m going to say something controversial and I love Max King. Got his cutout as my air freshener hanging off my rear view mirror. Would I like some more free kick? Yes but I had a think about it and I’m really glad max didn’t get as many holding free kicks for two reasons.

1. It teaches Max to get creative in a marking contest. We saw him nearly take marks on the ground, he brought it to ground several times and would handball corridor side and in one instance spotted Owens who kicked a goal.

2. We don’t want Max to be another free-Kick Curnow. Nearly everyone I know who loves AFL can’t stand Charlie Curnow because he literally gets gifted goals for piss weak holdings, blocks, chops and front ons that nearly half his goals in the tally this year (if you look at the stats) are from free kicks. We don’t want that negativity for Max because he’s such a confidence player.


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Post: # 2013356Post Life Long Saint »

TheGreatZacsby wrote: Fri 09 Jun 2023 10:21am I’m going to say something controversial and I love Max King. Got his cutout as my air freshener hanging off my rear view mirror. Would I like some more free kick? Yes but I had a think about it and I’m really glad max didn’t get as many holding free kicks for two reasons.

1. It teaches Max to get creative in a marking contest. We saw him nearly take marks on the ground, he brought it to ground several times and would handball corridor side and in one instance spotted Owens who kicked a goal.

2. We don’t want Max to be another free-Kick Curnow. Nearly everyone I know who loves AFL can’t stand Charlie Curnow because he literally gets gifted goals for piss weak holdings, blocks, chops and front ons that nearly half his goals in the tally this year (if you look at the stats) are from free kicks. We don’t want that negativity for Max because he’s such a confidence player.
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Post: # 2013391Post saynta »

terry smith rules wrote: Thu 08 Jun 2023 11:52pm Simply a disgraceful decision

Smashed front on in a marking contest it is a free all day every day
Exactly what I was going to post and yet horseface was whinging about our free kicks in his ungracious presser


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Post: # 2013393Post saynta »

And for the record as it hasn't been highlighted elsewhere, Buddy's second goal wasn't a goal at all. He kicked the ball when both his foot and the ball were behind or over the goal line.

The commentators were too busy wanking over Buddy to notice. Sick making really.


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