Pathetic

[Bruce G McAbee]

In my opinion, Membrey should have come in to replace Owens.
I can guarantee that Sicily wouldn't have had such a dominant game against him instead of a kid playing his 7th or 8th game.
Sicily, just brushed him aside all the time because he was simply stronger, would not have brushed Membrey aside so easily and probably would have lost a few times.

[Rubyjo]

RTB has not looked happy for a few weeks ..he knows he is up against it and the first few rounds were an anomaly

[SaintPav]

That's it for me why the hell we don't play Campbell is really pissing me off Marshall gets murdered in the ruck against taller opponents he's great around the ground that's it. How the hell Ross Camino gets a game over membery and winger is beyond belief sorry about grammar drunk and angry

[Rubyjo]

That's it for me why the hell we don't play Campbell is really pissing me off Marshall gets murdered in the ruck against taller opponents he's great around the ground that's it. How the hell Ross Camino gets a game over membery and winger is beyond belief sorry about grammar drunk and angry

Skank is concussed. W I ndy should play hic

[B.M]

Membrey is play right now at Sandy - was available

[Saint 58]

Just call the season
We've been punching above our weight since the start
Play all the kids for the rest of the year
Let's see who can do what

[SaintPav]

Membrey is play right now at Sandy - was available

That’s correct.

Too many trolls who come on here right after a loss.

Usual suspects who never post during the week or after a win.

Now, that IS pathetic!

[perfectionist]

To be fair, Hawthorn played pretty well, with few turnovers or skill errors and were harder at the ball around the packs. Their kicking for goal was reminiscent of ours in the past, except we usually lose those ones.

[Annoyedsaint]

To be fair, Hawthorn played pretty well, with few turnovers or skill errors and were harder at the ball around the packs. Their kicking for goal was reminiscent of ours in the past, except we usually lose those ones.

Every side miraculously seems to play pretty well against us. All the time. Pretty incredible.

[nobhead]

To be fair, Hawthorn played pretty well, with few turnovers or skill errors and were harder at the ball around the packs. Their kicking for goal was reminiscent of ours in the past, except we usually lose those ones.

Correct , this loss has been coming for a few weeks now.the most disapointing thing was imo the lack of effort especially from our experienced players .broken takles ,stagnant ball movement,poor descion making.all to familiar from the same players year after year.personaly i would like to see some massive changes especialy on ball .
Windy,bytel,owens would be a good start.
Need to see something different ,we know what we get from ross,byrnes,paton etc...
Can't keep doing the same things expecting different results.

[saintkid]

To be fair, Hawthorn played pretty well, with few turnovers or skill errors and were harder at the ball around the packs. Their kicking for goal was reminiscent of ours in the past, except we usually lose those ones.

Every side miraculously seems to play pretty well against us. All the time. Pretty incredible.

Exactly. This bullsh*t mentality has to stop. We seriously were rudderless and insipid for most of the match, like Adelaide and North. Only reason we beat North is because they were not good enough to capitalize on our sh*t play.

[Otiman]

In my opinion, Membrey should have come in to replace Owens.

9 disposals in 3 quarters, 2 marks, zero scoring shots. At VFL level.

Membrey is done. Doesn't fit the forward pressure gameplan either.

[1971]

Ross Lyon (as much as I love the tactics) has smoked us. The game plan is strong. It reminds me a lot like Melbourne with more tackling and pressure to force turnover. What separates Melbourne from us is that Melbourne are clean with the ball and can win it. When you are clean and can win the ball you do less and less of that two way running. Less and less of two way running results in less fatigue and running related injuries and your players aren’t smoked every from fatigue every game.

I look at our players and we are so buggered. Look at Max King throwing up at 3/4 time. Look at all the hamstrings, the calf’s and contact injuries we sustained due to going high speed all the time.

We always chose the ball butchers in selection who f*** over the rest of the boys in the team and fatigue us. I’m calling out Paton, Byrnes (sorry he’s not good everyone his disposal efficiency is horrendous), Ross, Howard, Hill (at times), Phillipou (at times) and even golden boy NWM (at times).

For all the at times… it’s the turnover and the guy running from the other team mates over the course of the game that cause these players to miss targets.

We lost today because Ross Lyon and selection committee keep selecting these duds that aren’t taking us anywhere. Windhager got top in all time trials and his efficiency is amazing. Why can’t he take Ross spot when his contract is finishing at the end of the year? He could taken Byrnes spot and play wing for all I care. Can at least win the ball and has efficiency. Why aren’t we playing him?

Bytel … can take Ross spot as he’s clean by handball and GUESS WHAT can win his own ball. Why aren’t we playing him?

Dougal Howard … defence is trash at the moment. Not clean at all. Highmore, better efficiency why aren’t we playing him?

Connolly - probably one of our best users in Sandringham and is very clean with the ball and has run can’t even get a game. Probably would have had a better game than Phillipou.

It’s selection integrity at the moment and it’s the same when we were with Ratts. Yet our club doesn’t do anything about it.

This loss is disgusting and we should be embarrassed. Get some of these kids in the team. Why persist with players who haven’t got us going in the past than why do we think they will in the future?

Be careful for suggesting Windy, Highmore and Bytel get a game. You will be told ' I am glad people on this forum don't get to select the side'. Too many plodders in this side but let's not make changes in the year of exploration.

[Teflon]

In my opinion, Membrey should have come in to replace Owens.

9 disposals in 3 quarters, 2 marks, zero scoring shots. At VFL level.

Membrey is done. Doesn't fit the forward pressure gameplan either.

Spot on
Anyone thinking Membrey is the cavalry is delusional he’s another - cooked
We can’t keep going back to the sane well
Owens Bytel Windhager need to go through that midfield
Owens can rest forward

[Life Long Saint]

The door is that way. Like all the richmond supporters that tore up their memberships in the bad years, don't deserve to follow the club.

Maybe the club doesn't deserve the loyal supporters it has?

[Otiman]

The door is that way. Like all the richmond supporters that tore up their memberships in the bad years, don't deserve to follow the club.

Maybe the club doesn't deserve the loyal supporters it has?

Like I said - the door is that way. If anyone wants the club to relocate to Tassie, or support GWS instead - go for it.

FQF

[saynta]

That's it for me why the hell we don't play Campbell is really pissing me off Marshall gets murdered in the ruck against taller opponents he's great around the ground that's it. How the hell Ross Camino gets a game over membery and winger is beyond belief sorry about grammar drunk and angry

I think even Blind Freddy would play Campbell.

[Otiman]

That's it for me why the hell we don't play Campbell is really pissing me off Marshall gets murdered in the ruck against taller opponents he's great around the ground that's it. How the hell Ross Camino gets a game over membery and winger is beyond belief sorry about grammar drunk and angry

I think even Blind Freddy would play Campbell.

Play a 31 year old over Max Heath? No thanks.

Campbell is an insurance policy for Marshall, and to help our developing rucks.

I can't see a side where both Campbell and Marshall are selected.

[Life Long Saint]

The door is that way. Like all the richmond supporters that tore up their memberships in the bad years, don't deserve to follow the club.

Maybe the club doesn't deserve the loyal supporters it has?

Like I said - the door is that way. If anyone wants the club to relocate to Tassie, or support GWS instead - go for it.

FQF

Maybe supporters like you are the problem?
Apologists for insipid performances and glaring selection omissions.
Today was a putrid performance against what is comfortably the 3rd worst team in the comp...And it needs to be criticised.
We almost pinched it and only played, at best, a quarter and a bit of good footy. Any kind of effort and desire would have won the game. Better selections on Thursday and some cooler heads might not have let the last five goals sail by.

At this point of the season, we are in a worse position than last season...and we all know how that ended.

But, no, let's tell critics to go and support GWS. Clever.

[Otiman]

But, no, let's tell critics to go and support GWS. Clever.

Read the first post in the thread again.

[Bruce G McAbee]

In my opinion, Membrey should have come in to replace Owens.

9 disposals in 3 quarters, 2 marks, zero scoring shots. At VFL level.

Membrey is done. Doesn't fit the forward pressure gameplan either.

Spot on
Anyone thinking Membrey is the cavalry is delusional he’s another - cooked
We can’t keep going back to the sane well
Owens Bytel Windhager need to go through that midfield
Owens can rest forward

So, were we expecting Membrey to kick 10 goals for Sandy tonight?
Would Sicily been able to push him around as easily as he pushed Caminiti out of the way? That's not a slant on Caminiti, he's just a kid who hasn't played 10 games yet, he hasn't developed the body strength to go one on one with Sicily.
A forward line of King, Membrey and Caminiti sounds pretty good with Owens drifting down there from the midfield.
Plus, Caminiti and Membrey would give us stronger midfield marking options in the midfield while we are coming out of defence.
No, Membrey isn't caviar, bit he gives us a 3rd option forward and takes the 2nd best defender.

[Rubyjo]

Membrey is play right now at Sandy - was available

That’s correct.

Too many trolls who come on here right after a loss.

Usual suspects who never post during the week or after a win.

Now, that IS pathetic!

So committed

[Rubyjo]

Ross Lyon (as much as I love the tactics) has smoked us. The game plan is strong. It reminds me a lot like Melbourne with more tackling and pressure to force turnover. What separates Melbourne from us is that Melbourne are clean with the ball and can win it. When you are clean and can win the ball you do less and less of that two way running. Less and less of two way running results in less fatigue and running related injuries and your players aren’t smoked every from fatigue every game.

I look at our players and we are so buggered. Look at Max King throwing up at 3/4 time. Look at all the hamstrings, the calf’s and contact injuries we sustained due to going high speed all the time.

We always chose the ball butchers in selection who f*** over the rest of the boys in the team and fatigue us. I’m calling out Paton, Byrnes (sorry he’s not good everyone his disposal efficiency is horrendous), Ross, Howard, Hill (at times), Phillipou (at times) and even golden boy NWM (at times).

For all the at times… it’s the turnover and the guy running from the other team mates over the course of the game that cause these players to miss targets.

We lost today because Ross Lyon and selection committee keep selecting these duds that aren’t taking us anywhere. Windhager got top in all time trials and his efficiency is amazing. Why can’t he take Ross spot when his contract is finishing at the end of the year? He could taken Byrnes spot and play wing for all I care. Can at least win the ball and has efficiency. Why aren’t we playing him?

Bytel … can take Ross spot as he’s clean by handball and GUESS WHAT can win his own ball. Why aren’t we playing him?

Dougal Howard … defence is trash at the moment. Not clean at all. Highmore, better efficiency why aren’t we playing him?

Connolly - probably one of our best users in Sandringham and is very clean with the ball and has run can’t even get a game. Probably would have had a better game than Phillipou.

It’s selection integrity at the moment and it’s the same when we were with Ratts. Yet our club doesn’t do anything about it.

This loss is disgusting and we should be embarrassed. Get some of these kids in the team. Why persist with players who haven’t got us going in the past than why do we think they will in the future?

Be careful for suggesting Windy, Highmore and Bytel get a game. You will be told ' I am glad people on this forum don't get to select the side'. Too many plodders in this side but let's not make changes in the year of exploration.

Did A I take over wtf

[Jacks Back]

That's it for me why the hell we don't play Campbell is really pissing me off Marshall gets murdered in the ruck against taller opponents he's great around the ground that's it. How the hell Ross Camino gets a game over membery and winger is beyond belief sorry about grammar drunk and angry

I think even Blind Freddy would play Campbell.

Play a 31 year old over Max Heath? No thanks.

Campbell is an insurance policy for Marshall, and to help our developing rucks.

I can't see a side where both Campbell and Marshall are selected.

We sadly need a ruckman that can win the centre bounce and throw-ins. Someone who can tap it down the throat of a mid like Campbell was doing, albeit in the VFL. While Marshall is a good player around the ground, he is just a little too short (as is Max Heath). We never seem to get consistent first use, and when we do, we get that kick that Gresham did near the end.

[Teflon]

In my opinion, Membrey should have come in to replace Owens.

9 disposals in 3 quarters, 2 marks, zero scoring shots. At VFL level.

Membrey is done. Doesn't fit the forward pressure gameplan either.

Spot on
Anyone thinking Membrey is the cavalry is delusional he’s another - cooked
We can’t keep going back to the sane well
Owens Bytel Windhager need to go through that midfield
Owens can rest forward

So, were we expecting Membrey to kick 10 goals for Sandy tonight?
Would Sicily been able to push him around as easily as he pushed Caminiti out of the way? That's not a slant on Caminiti, he's just a kid who hasn't played 10 games yet, he hasn't developed the body strength to go one on one with Sicily.
A forward line of King, Membrey and Caminiti sounds pretty good with Owens drifting down there from the midfield.
Plus, Caminiti and Membrey would give us stronger midfield marking options in the midfield while we are coming out of defence.
No, Membrey isn't caviar, bit he gives us a 3rd option forward and takes the 2nd best defender.

The way the ball was being kicked into our forward line today Membrey would’ve done squat
He also ain’t a contested marking machine - his last 3 ganes he was pushed out of the way constantly
He’s not the future
Prefer keep playing kids
Owens resting up there today would’ve given us more than Membrey